George Sodder saw a picture of a young girl in a magazine that he believed was Betty

[Angels_Not_Forgotten]

I remember reading it was searched, but I also remember someone saying they were looking for a class, didn't know if just 2 girls would be a better discription that may jogg someones memory, sorry...you guys are doing awesome work!

 

[Laura_Bean]

this took me a long time, and I hope this is the right photo. Let's all cross our fingers.

 

[Laura_Bean]

This is a photo from the 1940's. Person selling it via ebay does not know the exact year but said mid to late 40's when asked. Also told me the photo he thinks was taken in New York. By his great-grandpa. He inherited a lot of different photos. Said the man was an avid photographer.

 

[Laura_Bean]

http://s496.photobucket.com/albums/rr329/Catsy101_1978/?action=view&current=6434_1.jpg

 

[Laura_Bean]

Okay so in the photo it is not of two girls, but not a lot either. They are standing in line for a class. The barre is right behind them. The girl 2nd to the left looks like Betty. I think a lot. Enough to make you want to look closer. I cannot afford to buy the photo on Ebay, I don't have the money the man wants who is selling it. I wish I could so I could see it up close.

 

[birdie74]

I couldn't see it up close either, but I could see some resemblance.

 

[fox1950]

Brought the picture down and cropped it-but can't tell much about the little girl. I remember granddaughter saying the girl in the picture had Betty's demeanor-shy and bashful.

 

[Laura_Bean]

Granddaughter should look at it. She may be able to tell us more. If it is the photo or not. If not, it is back to the drawing board, right?

 

[Gray]

It's possible that Walt Whitman school wasn't in that building until 1948, looking at the date of this article.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60914F93E58177B93C1A9178DD85F4C8485F9

Don't know if this has been posted... if so, sorry I'm so late.

I don't know... that's confusing to me. If he wrote the letter in 1947 (in January, no less) then why is this article dated June 3, 1948? Maybe they moved into a different building on 78th street?

 

[belimom]

After looking at the pictures, I don't believe Betty is in them... I don't believe they died in the fire but that just doesn't look like her to me... JMHO.

 

[Granddaughter]

Hi all -

Mom looked at the photo of the ballet class, and she does not believe it to be the right one. She recalls a barre, as in the photo, but she also remembers that the girl had Betty's shy posture. I tried to locate the photo through magazines, but also have had no luck.

 

[jashrema]

I know everyone has been talking about the photo being Betty Sodder, but to me...it looks like a match to Jennie Sodder. Everything is there, even the "shadow" on the chin...see what you think...

pic of Jennie Sodder

cats pic she found

 

[jashrema]

I think they look very similar...much more likely than Betty being the one in the pic. The arch of the eyebrow is the same, but jennie's eyebrows came over onto her nose more. Of course, that is something that easily "plucks" away! Does jennie have a cleft chin? Does the girl in Cats photo have a cleft? A cleft is genetic. One parent MUST have a cleft chin for it to be passed to child...so if we agree that the child in Cats pic HAS a cleft chin, and neither one of the Sodders has a cleft...then the child in Cats pic cannot be a Sodder child.
Any close up pics of the Sodder parents?

 

[dogperson]

There is currently a copy of this magazine for sale on eBay under the store name shoppinglollypop. It shows a two-page spread of photos of the little girls in the ballet school. I can't enlarge it enough to see them very well. Only 2 or 3 of them have dark enough hair to be Betty Sodder. It is a Buy It Now magazine for $10.49.

 

[SunnieRN]

I know everyone has been talking about the photo being Betty Sodder, but to me...it looks like a match to Jennie Sodder. Everything is there, even the "shadow" on the chin...see what you think...

pic of Jennie Sodder

cats pic she found

This made the hair on the back of my neck stand up!

 

[Bennettras]

This made the hair on the back of my neck stand up!

Nose and brows look totally different to me.

 

[DIRK SCHILLER]

I can't open it either. I think looking for the picture is a good idea-for 60 some years it has been part of this mystery. So why not try to prove or disprove it is Betty? Just like the 1968 photo. It would be wonderful if the person would come forward if it is not Louis and say "Hey, that's me when I was 26 but I have no idea who could have sent it to you or why they did that to you." That would end the mystery of who it is, whether it is Louis or not.

well why not showing that pic in one of that crime shows, kinda Nancy Grace, you guys have that possibility over there

 

[DIRK SCHILLER]

I have just recieved this response

16 May 2008
Ms. Hume,

So far, I haven't found the photograph. I looked through the entire May 14, 1946
issue and there was no such image. That definitely confirms what the
granddaughter thought about that specific issue. There was not a May 14, 1948
issue.

I have also used the yearly indexes published by LOOK in an attempt to find the
photo. There were no references to the Walt Whitman School or Louise Krueger in
the years 1946, 1947, or 1948. Since Mr. Sodder knew to write to the Walt
Whitman School and more specifically to Louise Krueger, I would think that those
names would have been mentioned in the article.

I then broadened my search to New York City, schools, and education and still
didn't find the photo. I will still do a bit more looking early next week but
I'm beginning to lose confidence in my ability to find the photo. Do you think
it is possible that the photo appeared in a magazine other than LOOK? That
would make it even harder, if not impossible, to locate the photo, but I suppose it could be a possibility.

Jan Grenci
Reference Specialist

http://2neat.com/magazines/images/LOOK-Magazine-1946-05-14.jpg

http://2neat.com/magazines/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_12

http://2neat.com/magazines/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_12&products_id=111

 

[DIRK SCHILLER]

Why would somebody kidnap Betty and put her in an orphanage? That doesn't make much sense to me. A Jewish one no less?? I am sorry but I really doubt she was ever there. :twocents:

well why would somebody kidnap Betty and let them take photographs for one of the most important magazines, I would not take that riesk if I did illegally adopt her except parents did not know they adopted a kidnapped girl

 

[Peliman]

Originally Posted by Shadow205
I need help researching and trying to find an old magazine. You will remember mentioned that George Sodder saw a picture of a young girl in a magazine that he beleived was Betty. He traveled to New York in an attempt to identify the girl but was not allowed to see her. Here is the letter that he wrote to the school;


ALSO
Copied over from #2 thread...

I found this posted in thread one, but I can't get it to open...anyone?

First time looking at this thread, didn't see if anyone cracked this link. Here's the working link requested. (two pages)

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvrcbiog/WhatReallyHappenedToChildrena.html

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvrcbiog/WhatReallyHappenedToChildrenb.html