Geraldo - Sept. 21, - Jesse Taking Questions

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  • #81
He can't bring himself to say Caylee's dead. Because he loved her and he doesn't believe the Casey he knew could hurt her child. Why does it seem hard for people to grasp that Cindy feels the same way ?
We all hurt for this little girl and want her found regardless, but we didn't know her or love her in the same sense as that of the GP's. Most of us really don't know how we'd react if we were in the same situation.

I agree with you. But not all people are saying Cindy isnt grieving or feel as low as anyone else. IMO, I think Cindy has really odd coping skills in public. In private she may be totally different.
 
  • #82
Cindy is a VERY unlikeable person. I doubt you will find many that like her including her daughter. Why should JG be any different? No one said he disrepected her anyway.


It's kind of telling that Casey did her complaining about Cindy to Jesse since Jesse didn't like Cindy. Getting sympathy and portraying one's self as a victim goes along with pathological lying. Guys who disrespect their girlfriend's mothers are not really that nice of guys and won't make good husbands.
 
  • #83
Geraldo is on in 20 minutes again.
 
  • #84
How long has this rumor been around about Cindy saying Jesse had something to do with the death of Caylee? That doesn't make sense since Cindy believes her granddaughter is alive. This is the first I've heard about that rumor and wonder who started that one...

And how could Jesse sue for defamation of character if it is just that - a rumor.
 
  • #85
I just watched the YouTube interview of tonight and also last night. I was aghast when Jessie said last night that Cindy called herself "mommy" to Caylee a few times. What a freak.
 
  • #86
How long has this rumor been around about Cindy saying Jesse had something to do with the death of Caylee? That doesn't make sense since Cindy believes her granddaughter is alive. This is the first I've heard about that rumor and wonder who started that one...

And how could Jesse sue for defamation of character if it is just that - a rumor.

Maybe it isn't a rumor. I hadn't heard about it until tonight also. I wonder when CA said it? Was it filmed, on record somewhere? Anyone know?
 
  • #87
Did Casey take a shower at your house - when and why

If TL was out of town when CA came over to his house to shower (as it says in Jesse's statement), then the car was abandoned already since it was abandoned before 7:00 am 6/27 and TL went on vacation 6/30. AH had not yet loaned CA her car. How did CA get to Jesse's house? It's too late to ask him on air, but this is a question that is bothering me!
 
  • #88
I think it is just odd that his father and JG are mentioning this rumor, but we haven't heard anything about it here at WS before now.
 
  • #89
If TL was out of town when CA came over to his house to shower (as it says in Jesse's statement), then the car was abandoned already since it was abandoned before 7:00 am 6/27 and TL went on vacation 6/30. AH had not yet loaned CA her car. How did CA get to Jesse's house? It's too late to ask him on air, but this is a question that is bothering me!

That's been bothering me too, and this is one question that I'd like to see asked.......nail down the specifics of when this took place and the details.
 
  • #90
I think Casey just acted the same way as whoever she's with. Jesse was more calm and sedate, a homebody maybe. So Casey took on that same personality. It was all pretend. That's her MO, pretending to be someone she isn't. She's quite the actress!
I'd love to see her psych eval too. It would probably scare us to death!:eek:

k - so here's some more food for thought - another of Casey's pals, a la Lake Vaj homeowner, was online earlier tonight, during & after the Jessie i-view, and he paints the same, sweet picture of Casey Jessie G apparently fell in love with... says he hung out with Casey at least 2x's mid-June to mid-July, and says he met TonE one of those evenings out at a Wild Wings for dinner & drinks...

go here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71620


bringing up something that's a bit O/T...but TonE claims he never met any of Casey's friends, and they can't all be telling teh truth now, can they? :eek:
 
  • #91
That's been bothering me too, and this is one question that I'd like to see asked.......nail down the specifics of when this took place and the details.

so let's try to have this asked of JG's father tomorrow night...:)
 
  • #92
I think it is just odd that his father and JG are mentioning this rumor, but we haven't heard anything about it here at WS before now.

Yeah, and I'll be the one you guys can shoot at first, but something is bothering me about the timing and siding of JG in these interviews.

I know I've probably just seen too much, but I keep asking the same question you did: why would Cindy accuse JG of participating in Caylee's demise if Cindy thinks Caylee is alive?

Here's some other things raising my hairs:

1) JG is making it adamant that he "does not recognize THIS Casey", and emphasizes repeatedly that the Casey he KNEW (and even includes some other friends opinions at one point) was nothing like "this person".

2) JG made it clear in the 1st GR interview on 9/21 that Casey was his "first love" and he would always think fondly of her for that. He stated that he didn't want to break up with her after the paternity test revealed he wasn't Caylee's dad, but Casey broke up with him anyway. (He was probably heartbroken on many levels and very susceptible to becoming a toy for Casey to play with when she needed him.)

3) JG will point to evidence around the dates of the car and carseat, yet when asked can not bring himself to say one negative thing about "the Casey he knew". He's seemingly putting "out there" that as close to Casey as he is/was there are two distinctly different people living in Casey's body now.

Here's where I'm gonna duck for being a pessimist: :couch:

JG seems to still be in love with Casey. He dislikes Cindy because Casey complained to him frequently about her (in addition to just not liking Cindy for standing between he and Casey). JG seems like the type who would have taken Casey back at any time before all this. He might say he was done out of pride, but his lingering friendship with her indicates otherwise. I'm wondering: could JG be a plant for the defense? Could he actually be trying to help Casey get a lesser verdict?

Hear me out before you ban me please.. JG would have to say that he does NOT support Casey NOW, but he would HAVE to seem like he was a tool for the prosecution by saying that. But he keeps emphatically stating that he does not know who THIS Casey is, and that THIS person is not the same person he was engaged to. Hey, and it could be the truth we all have to live with, but then...Casey stole from her grandparents before Caylee went missing. Casey lied about working at Universal to friends well before Caylee went missing, and Casey didn't keep a job or have a life of her own as a 23 year old mother before Caylee went missing..Those are all things JG's "then only friend" Casey did.

Some of the party pics of Casey playing grab-@zz with other guys happened well-before Caylee went missing, but JG says he knew her as a "home-body"? That just tells me he has been misled by her for far longer than he knows. He sees the Casey he wants to see, and when confronted with facts JG doesn't want to see, he separates "the two Casey's" - and that works more for a defense than a prosecution team.

If not for your question as to why JG and his father are suddenly scheduling interviews to shoot down what they say Cindy is telling people about JG being involved, I probably wouldn't have felt compelled to ramble about my "off-feelings" about this, but something's setting off my BS meter big time. Just haven't figured what yet.
 
  • #93
Cindy is a VERY unlikeable person. I doubt you will find many that like her including her daughter. Why should JG be any different? No one said he disrepected her anyway.

CA is pretty hard to respect! I know I can't manage it.
 
  • #94
I'm glad he was on again tonight. He seemed more comfortable. For a young man, he is very articulate.

Early on after Casey was arrested the first time, people were saying on different forums on the internet that they were suspicious of Jesse and questioned his involvement. Also, I think Cindy started pointing the finger at Jesse after the first forensic reports came out, about the time she had the outburst regarding someone else putting a body in the trunk. We really don't know what is being said around town either. I'm sure there are rampant rumors in their community that we aren't hearing about so I have no reason to doubt that he believes he's being accused.

Besides that, why would he go on national tv and announce to world that her mother thinks he's responsible if he didn't have a valid reason to do so? That's just inviting trouble he doesn't need. IMO, he wants to clear his name and he is doing everything he can to do that.

Three things he said tonight stood out to me -
1. He, like many others, cannot reconcile the Casey they see today with the Casey he knew. It seems everyone who was close to her has said that she is not the person they knew anymore. Something snapped. What was it? (I guess that's one of the million-dollar questions!)
2. He said that she is a chameleon. She wants to fit in - when in Rome, do as the Romans do. Her friend from Lake Vaj said tonight in this forum that he thought she was a follower. He then retracted that to say that she is a leader. She's probably both. Strong women are often mistaken as leaders by virtue of their strength when, in reality, they are not.
3. He and Cindy did not get along because he refused to be controlled. My guess is the entire family was controlled by Cindy and the lid finally blew off.
 
  • #95
I think Casey was a VERY smooth liar and she fooled MANY people, especially MEN. I do believe she kept Jesse on a "string" and that he had hoped she would come to her senses and let him help her raise Caylee...I also think that there MUST have been some kind of issue that caused the animosity between him and Cindy. Perhaps he got in the midst of one of their fights or something...??? There is more to this than meets the EAR or the EYE...for sure.
 
  • #96
QUOTE:Something snapped.

Her lies and theft were beginning to be discovered and her whole tangled web was coming unraveled, and maybe it was more than she could deal with.
 
  • #97
I wonder what happened that caused JG to do a paternity test?

Maybe Cindy told LE that she thinks JG killed Caylee. Maybe it's a leak or someone in LE that knows JG clued him in on the accusation.
 
  • #98
QUOTE:Something snapped.

Her lies and theft were beginning to be discovered and her whole tangled web was coming unraveled, and maybe it was more than she could deal with.

I think you are right. This girl has a lot secrets. I think we've only begun to uncover them.
 
  • #99
That is true. I sure wish Casey would talk and tell the truth. I won't hold my breath on that!
We will never know what really happened!
And if the nanny had Caylee, as she wants everyone to believe, why didn't the nanny have Caylee's carseat?

Maybe she used the imaginary car seat of the imaginary child of KC's friend that recommended Zanny to KC.:bang:
 
  • #100
I'm glad he was on again tonight. He seemed more comfortable. For a young man, he is very articulate.

Early on after Casey was arrested the first time, people were saying on different forums on the internet that they were suspicious of Jesse and questioned his involvement. Also, I think Cindy started pointing the finger at Jesse after the first forensic reports came out, about the time she had the outburst regarding someone else putting a body in the trunk. We really don't know what is being said around town either. I'm sure there are rampant rumors in their community that we aren't hearing about so I have no reason to doubt that he believes he's being accused.

Besides that, why would he go on national tv and announce to world that her mother thinks he's responsible if he didn't have a valid reason to do so? That's just inviting trouble he doesn't need. IMO, he wants to clear his name and he is doing everything he can to do that.

Three things he said tonight stood out to me -
1. He, like many others, cannot reconcile the Casey they see today with the Casey he knew. It seems everyone who was close to her has said that she is not the person they knew anymore. Something snapped. What was it? (I guess that's one of the million-dollar questions!)
2. He said that she is a chameleon. She wants to fit in - when in Rome, do as the Romans do. Her friend from Lake Vaj said tonight in this forum that he thought she was a follower. He then retracted that to say that she is a leader. She's probably both. Strong women are often mistaken as leaders by virtue of their strength when, in reality, they are not.
3. He and Cindy did not get along because he refused to be controlled. My guess is the entire family was controlled by Cindy and the lid finally blew off.

I believe CA started hinting as early as the bond hearing that Jessee may have been involved. She stated that she believed he was Caylee's daddy. However, she should have added that it turned out that he wasn't the daddy after he had a dna test shortly after Caylee's birth. She just sort of let it hang in the air and I think that's what originally started everyone's speculation about him possibly being the daddy. Even then she was working on plan b in case she needed to come up with a story to protect KC. I think she is a manipulative, cunning woman. Can I say that or will the attorney come after me?:chicken:
 
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