Found Deceased Germany - Fabian, 8, Güstrow, 10 Oct 2025

  • #41

Fabian's mother explains that he left school early the day before, due to feeling unwell. She allowed him to stay home again on the day he went missing, while she went to work. He was supposed to stay in the home, but he was gone when she came back.

He did have a cell phone, and I wonder if there is any evidence on the phone to help explain why he left.

It's so heartbreaking to imagine what he and his parents have been through.
Sending gratitude to police as they continue their investigation.
 
  • #42
I was looking around on Google Maps and although on the one hand the ex gf’s story about going for a walk doesn’t seem that odd looking at the scenery (it’s a beautiful place). I often drove further from home with my dogs to change things up a bit. But what I can’t figure out is how could they possibly have seen the boy from the path that runs alongside the field? Unless the dog was off leash and went to the pond and wouldn’t come when recalled? Very weird coincidence.
 
  • #43
Here is the link. Scroll down a bit to see the map. Let me know if it doesn't work.


I wonder if someone lured him somewhere and told him not to bring his phone. But for goodness sake, he was 8-years-old! Not even a preteen. This case is baffling to me, and I hope the best of the best are investigating.

Because there are other cases that haven't been solved (I'm thinking of Inga in Stendal. She was only 5, and I believe either lured by someone she talked to earlier in the day or spontaneously abducted.)

"Scroll down a bit to see the map"

Have to say, @ChatteringBirds .... scroll down a longgggg bit. But thanks for pointing this out.
Ha!
 
  • #44
What a sick person. Sounds like a huge danger to the public is out there.

It sounds as if he was violently abused. Then burned. This just feels gutwrenching.
moo.
 
  • #45
Thank you, seaside. I'm glad they used DNA and will take the rest as Bild's "opinion" (I am also a bit familiar with Bild and not a fan at all.) JMO.

What, actually, is BILD????
 
  • #46
What, actually, is BILD????

Bild is a German newspaper. It has a "for entertainment" vibe more than a serious newspaper, IMO. Of course it also has a website.
 
  • #47
@ChatteringBirds ... I was reading all the various FB pages in Germany.... typical FB ... so many people suspecting the family and their intimates... always the case.

This is obviously Moo MOO.... but I guess I had missed that they are saying he had multiple stab wounds before the burning?
Can you verify this one.?
 
  • #48
@nhmemorymaker I have not read anything specific about his cause of death, but I haven't read everything. The last I had read, police were not wanting to give out details.
 
  • #49
Yes, I think it implies something about who lives on the farm. I wonder what exactly they were looking for there and how they looked.
I wonder if they have a warrant to seize any vehicles.
No, it's saying that person is alleged to be the one who found his body, not that she lives on the farm.
 
  • #50
@ChatteringBirds ... I was reading all the various FB pages in Germany.... typical FB ... so many people suspecting the family and their intimates... always the case.

This is obviously Moo MOO.... but I guess I had missed that they are saying he had multiple stab wounds before the burning?
Can you verify this one.?

I haven't read any of the FB pages in Germany or anywhere else on this case. I just don't want to know.

Fabian's mother is reported correcting one or two things that people had been claiming erroneously. I think one of them was that she'd allowed Fabian to go out of the house on that Friday whereas actually she'd made an agreement with him that he was to stay inside until she came back home from work. She was very surprised that he wasn't home when she got home because he would usually stick to whatever had been agreed on. Unfortunately I don't remember where I read that. It would have been Merkur or Schwarzwälder Bote, I think, the 2 newspapers I've been linking on here.

MOO

Again, I have to look for it but yesterday I read that what the police were searching for in the huge pile of manure at the farm was the murder weapon, a knife.
 
  • #51
What, actually, is BILD????
BILD is gutter press, it's far worse than the Daily Fail in the UK. It's so bad that most educated people in Germany don't read it at all. If somebody gave me a printed copy of the Daily Mail/Daily Fail, I'd probably read some of it and maybe not take all bits of it super-seriously. If somebody gave me BILD, I would use it unread for cleaning my windows or similar.

JMO
 
  • #52
But what I can’t figure out is how could they possibly have seen the boy from the path that runs alongside the field? Unless the dog was off leash and went to the pond and wouldn’t come when recalled?
According to what I read, the dog found Fabian's body, so I presume the dog was off-leash.
MOO
 
  • #53
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  • #54
Update from Tuesday, 22 October 21:45, with other information from previous days lower down in the article:

First they explain why search dogs alerted to something in the lake (Inselsee) as opposed to the pond. There were 17 search dogs involved and several of them alerted to a scent in the lake. They're trained to look for the scent of decomposition in water, and since somebody had drowned in that lake a month or so before, that's probably what they were alerting on. Apparently if there's a dead animal in the water, they might alert on that too.

Next, there will be another church service for the grieving town and Fabian's family on Thursday, because it's deemed important, it's also a thank-you service for all who have helped in the search or supported the family so far. Especially the family wishes this, to show their gratitude to the local community. Emails and postcards which were sent to the town (or the family presumably) in support will be read out loud during the service.

Fabian's body has been returned to his family. They will have a private funeral service at a later date.

So far police are only saying that Fabian died a violent death, but they're not saying how so as not to impinge on the investigation. However they are also saying that there is no danger to the general public.

There are people in the village of Reimershagen (where the farm is) who claim that Fabian used often to play in the village since his father was in a relationship with a woman in the village. Police don't mention this at all. @ChatteringBirds Is this the kind of information you picked up in relation to the farm? I know I read it or heard it on other media in the last few days.

A detective called Axel Petermann mentions that it is not known whether Fabian took anything with him from home or whether any of his clothing was missing - so it could be anything of that nature that the police were looking for on the farm.

German article summarised by me, seasideForest, in English.
 
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  • #55
Fabian's mother is reported correcting one or two things that people had been claiming erroneously. I think one of them was that she'd allowed Fabian to go out of the house on that Friday whereas actually she'd made an agreement with him that he was to stay inside until she came back home from work. She was very surprised that he wasn't home when she got home because he would usually stick to whatever had been agreed on. Unfortunately I don't remember where I read that. It would have been Merkur or Schwarzwälder Bote, I think, the 2 newspapers I've been linking on here.
Found it here: "Freitagmorgen habe ich ihn gefragt, wie es ihm geht, ob er zur Schule gehen kann oder lieber zu Hause bleiben möchte. Er hat gesagt, er würde gerne noch zu Hause bleiben und sich ausruhen“, erklärte Fabians Mutter. Bereits am Donnerstag hatte der Junge die Schule wegen gesundheitlicher Beschwerden vorzeitig verlassen müssen. „Ich bin um 8.30 Uhr zur Arbeit gegangen und habe mich von meinem Kind verabschiedet mit einem ‚hab dich lieb, bis später‘. Vorher habe ich mit ihm abgesprochen, dass er nicht rausgehen soll, bis Mama zu Hause ist“, berichtet die Frau. "
I actually originally heard and saw it on a little news video. BBM When she was saying these parts, she was either crying or really struggling not to. (Translation: 'I love you, see you later.' Earlier I discussed with him [and stipulated...] that he was not to go out of the house till Mama was back home. )

ETA: people had been claiming erroneously on German social media, not on Websleuths!
 
  • #56
Here is some more: Ermittlung im Fall Fabian (8): Erste Spuren, große Suche – Bilder zeigen den Einsatz in Güstrow

There are pictures 1-21, but most of them are not new. Beside picture 11: Der Junge gelte als zuverlässig und nicht als Ausreißer. Es habe eine generelle Verabredung gegeben, nach der er abends zu einer bestimmten Zeit zu Hause sein sollte, sofern er rausgehe. Am Freitagabend sei er zu der vereinbarten Zeit aber nicht zu Hause erschienen. Zunächst habe die Mutter noch versucht, ihn selbst ausfindig zu machen und ihn gegen 20.30 Uhr als vermisst gemeldet. © Bernd Wüstneck/dpa

Summary: The boy was reliable, he didn't tend to take off. The normal rule was: he had to be home by a certain time in the evening [note in Germany 5pm is evening in a lot of people's minds, so this does not mean that Fabian got to stay out till 10pm every night, just in case anybody is wondering...]. Friday evening he wasn't home by this normal agreed time. His mother tried to find him herself first and then she notified [police presumably] that he was missing.

Left in picture 15: A picture of his mother, taken in an interview iirc.

The text isn't so interesting here, but there is a photo taken at the farm where you can see part of the manure pile - it's quite big. There are some police with shovels standing in front of it.
 
  • #57
There are people in the village of Reimershagen (where the farm is) who claim that Fabian used often to play in the village since his father was in a relationship with a woman in the village. Police don't mention this at all. @ChatteringBirds Is this the kind of information you picked up in relation to the farm?

Just that it sounds like his father's ex-girlfriend lives in the same village. Keeping in mind the presumption of innocence applies to everyone currently, and I do not have any theory who did this to him. It might have even been a stranger.
 

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