Found Alive Germany - Maria-Brigitte Henselmann, 13, Freiburg, 4 May 2013

[SCHMAE]

Also he moved near by and rented a flat yes? Presumably to carry on this ' relationship' with Maria or was that prior to him actually meeting her? Brazen man for sure.

 

[FigTree]

Maria Henselmann is listed on the Amber Alert Europe database.
There is an interactive Map - Maria's listing is in the Germany section - she is Number 34 on the data base (though I dont know if these numbers change)

Link to Amber Alert Europe Database

 

[zwiebel]

Also he moved near by and rented a flat yes? Presumably to carry on this ' relationship' with Maria or was that prior to him actually meeting her? Brazen man for sure.

I believe there had been some kind of 'relationship' for a year and Haase had rented somewhere during that time to be nearer to Maria's home, and is also said to have picked her up from school.

I agree, very brazen. That's worrying, to me. How far will he go to keep her with him?

Unless they are staying somewhere now, pretending to be father and daughter?

 

[zwiebel]

'Maria, komm zuruck!' .....J.

Maria's best friend J**** is asking her to 'come back!'

She is really shocked. She's only 13 too, so I haven't put her full name.

http://www.rtl.de/cms/news/rtl-aktu...maria-komm-zurueck-2e621-51ca-86-1503257.html

 

[zwiebel]

Here's the link where a friend of Maria's says Haase had been picking her up from school. It's in German but elainera posted an English summary earlier.

http://www.morgenweb.de/nachrichten/sudwest/13-jahrige-verzweifelt-gesucht-1.1029280

 

[SCHMAE]

This is why I don't understand why her mother said she did not leave willingly. By all appearances Maria knew what she was doing and was carrying on with the man . I must add here that a child of her age has no idea ' what they are doing' and so that leads to ' consent ' issues . Maria likely thinks they've run off together on a romantic ( vomit) holiday ! So if Maria is willingly with him, she is participating in hiding herself...and that will make it that much more to difficult to find her. Could be at some point, she thinks better of it and wants to get away but he likely won't let her, but at this point I wonder if she is willing or not. so sad .......

 

[zwiebel]

Please bring Maria back Bernhard.

WS is coming high on German google searches now we have some tags. Bernhard uses the web a lot, and I think he may read this thread.

 

[zwiebel]

It would help if I could post that in German, but I'm scared I will make a mistake.

 

[zwiebel]

This is why I don't understand why her mother said she did not leave willingly. By all appearances Maria knew what she was doing and was carrying on with the man . I must add here that a child of her age has no idea ' what they are doing' and so that leads to ' consent ' issues . Maria likely thinks they've run off together on a romantic ( vomit) holiday ! So if Maria is willingly with him, she is participating in hiding herself...and that will make it that much more to difficult to find her. Could be at some point, she thinks better of it and wants to get away but he likely won't let her, but at this point I wonder if she is willing or not. so sad .......

Exactly. She is isolated from her family, her friends, her teachers....who is there to support her if she wants to come home? Does she have any money? A cell phone? ( a 'handy' in German).

 

[Elainera]

Bernhard, bitte bring Maria nach Hause!
Ihre Eltern machen sich grosse Sorgen.

 

[zwiebel]

Elainera, you rock!

 

[zwiebel]

There are a LOT of people searching now.

https://www.facebook.com/bitte.findet.maria

 

[Donjeta]

This is why I don't understand why her mother said she did not leave willingly. By all appearances Maria knew what she was doing and was carrying on with the man . I must add here that a child of her age has no idea ' what they are doing' and so that leads to ' consent ' issues . Maria likely thinks they've run off together on a romantic ( vomit) holiday ! So if Maria is willingly with him, she is participating in hiding herself...and that will make it that much more to difficult to find her. Could be at some point, she thinks better of it and wants to get away but he likely won't let her, but at this point I wonder if she is willing or not. so sad .......

I can't believe that life on the run with a pervert who could be her grandfather is very romantic for most teen girls for very long. It may seem like a good idea if things are rough at home but I think the theory may much differ from the practice.

 

[FigTree]

Exactly. She is isolated from her family, her friends, her teachers....who is there to support her if she wants to come home? Does she have any money? A cell phone? ( a 'handy' in German).

If she is with Berhard - its HE who has to do the right thing..
Drive her to a safe destination - TAKE her HOME Berhard!
or at the least give her the opportunity and let her contact her Mother and Father!... and then take her HOME or let them pick her up from somewhere.

Its way overdue - she needs to be safe and home.

Prayers for Maria's Parents, family and Friends :candle:

 

[FigTree]

Marias mother yesterday has made another heartfelt plea on Facebook to ask people to please keep looking for Maria.

Facebook bitte findet Maria

MARIA IST SEIT DREIZEHN NÄCHTEN VERMIßT....

ES IST UNBESCHREIBBAR WAS WIR DABEI FÜHLEN…
ICH HABE ANGST UM MEIN KIND. BITTE HELFT MIR WEITERHIN MARIA WIEDER ZU FINDEN!

ICH MÖCHTE EUCH VON GANZEM HERZEN BITTEN: TEILT DIE SUCHE!!!
HALTET DIE AUGEN OFFEN, MARIA KÖNNTE ÜBERALL DA DRAUSSEN SEIN!
MELDET BITTE ALLE HINWEISE SOFORT DER POLIZEI!

MARIA, WENN DU DAS HIER LIEST, MELDE DICH BITTE ÜBER DAS ANONYME KONTAKTFORMULAR AUF DER WEBSEITE: NENNE EINFACH DEN KOSENAMEN, DEN WIR DIR SCHON ALS BABY GABEN!
DANN WISSEN WIR AUCH DASS DU ES BIST!
ICH VERMISSE DICH SO SEHR!

English Translation From the Bitte Findet Maria Facebook Page:

Mary is missing for THIRTEEN nights...

IT'S INDESCRIBABLE WHAT WE HERE FEEL...
I DID FEAR FOR MY CHILD. PLEASE HELP ME CONTINUE TO MARIA AGAIN TO FIND!

I WOULD LIKE YOU WITH ALL MY HEART ASK: THE SEARCH SHARE!
KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN, MARIA COULD BE ANYWHERE OUT THERE!
REPORTS PLEASE ALL THE CLUES THE POLICE IMMEDIATELY!

From the BlogPost...
Maria's mother has posted a lovely song on Facebook for Maria - one that she would recognize - Santana's 'Maria Maria' - with the message "For you Princess where ever you are..."
In another post Maria's Father has thanked all the businesses and people who have donated their time and their help printing and posting flyers - everyone seems to have ramped up the search for her. Great!!


GEA News Report 17.05.2013 - snipped extract

The police believe that the girl has gone underground with his 40 year older internet love. Now the police has sent a public appeal to the couple.Two weeks after the disappearance of a 13-year-old and her 53 years old internet acquaintance, police have called on the two to return voluntarily. The couple should face, a police spokesman said on Friday in Freiburg. This is the best solution for all parties

Police also believe after analyzing the chatroom conversations that Maria left voluntarily ...
GEA News Report 17.05.2013 - Snipped extract

the police does not believe that the young from Freiburg is in acute danger. She has analyzed the chat of the couple. The 13-year-old and the 40-year old man had been there for about a year in regular contact.

Lets hope there is some news on her whereabouts soon!

 

[Donjeta]

Different language versions of the missing poster here:

http://mariasuche.wordpress.com/

 

[FigTree]

The is another heartfelt plea posted on Marias mothers blog to her daughter...


http://mariasuche.wordpress.com/

Posted on Mai 19, 2013 by mariasuche
15 Nächte vermisst – über 2 Wochen Angst um mein Kind

Liebe Maria, vor zwei Wochen bist Du von Zuhause aufgebrochen. Du hast fast nichts mitgenommen. Du sagtest, Du wollest bei einer Freundin übernachten. Wir haben uns verabschiedet wie immer. Ich wusste: Morgen sehe ich Dich wieder!

Ich habe Dich seitdem nicht wieder gesehen. Nur in meinen Gedanken, in meinen Träumen, in meinen Sorgen.

Sie vermuten, Du bist freiwillig mitgegangen. Selbst wenn…bist Du noch immer freiwillig dort?

Bitte Bitte Bitte, wenn Du dies liest! Finde einen Weg, irgendeinen, mir wenigstens ein kleines Zeichen zu geben! Vielleicht über das Kontaktformular, dessen Inhalt direkt auf meiner Mailadresse landet, vielleicht mit einem Anruf aus einer Telefonzelle oder mit unterdrückter Nummer auf unserer Nummer zuhause, die Du kennst?
Du musst nicht mehr als Deinen Kosenamen sagen, und dass es Dir gut geht, wenn Du nicht willst. Aber bitte: Sag wenigstens Ein Wort!

Deine Mum

English Translation by Google:

15 nights missed - over 2 weeks worried about my child
Posted on May 19, 2013 by maria search

Dear Maria, two weeks before you are broken from home. You took almost nothing. You said that you wouldst stay with a friend. We have adopted as always. I knew that morning I see you again!
Since then I have not seen you again. Only in my thoughts, in my dreams, in my worries.
You suspect you are voluntarily gone along. Even if ... You're still there voluntarily?

Please Please Please if you read this! Find a way any, to give me at least a small token! Maybe via the contact form, the contents of lands directly on my email address, perhaps with a call from a phone booth or a withheld number on our number at home, which you know?
You do not say more than your pet name and that you're okay, when you do not want. But please: Do at least a word!

Your mum

Marias Uncle has also posted at the blog - I am translating from the translation here, but basically:
Marias mother health has declined. - *(I think this means she is worried sick)
Also a plea to discourage the blaming, innuendo, speculation, and rumour.
Please call the Police if you have seen her.
Please help as he continues to search for his Niece, so they can find Maria and bring her home.
______________

I hope there is some good news soon of Maria.

.

 

[Elainera]

DER SPIEGEL is also reporting it now. This is good, it's a national magazine read by millions.

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/just...und-53-jaehrigen-bernhard-haase-a-900548.html

There is nothing new in the article though. Still no further details about the circumstances of the disappearance. Maybe they don't know what she wore because she took several outfits when she supposedly went to visit her friend over the weekend.

One tiny piece of info: it says Haase was staying in hotels when he came to visit her in freiburg in the past. Seems he didn't rent a flat.

It says police has received about 250 tips, but none have turned up any leads.

I hope she's ok! If this is really a romantic thing I hope it doesn't turn nasty when the honeymoon is over.

On the blog it says flyers are being printed and posted nationwide. Soccerteams put up the missing poster on their website and facebook pages.

 

[FigTree]

DER SPIEGEL is also reporting it now. This is good, it's a national magazine read by millions.

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/just...und-53-jaehrigen-bernhard-haase-a-900548.html

There is nothing new in the article though. Still no further details about the circumstances of the disappearance. Maybe they don't know what she wore because she took several outfits when she supposedly went to visit her friend over the weekend.

One tiny piece of info: it says Haase was staying in hotels when he came to visit her in freiburg in the past. Seems he didn't rent a flat.

It says police has received about 250 tips, but none have turned up any leads.

I hope she's ok! If this is really a romantic thing I hope it doesn't turn nasty when the honeymoon is over.

On the blog it says flyers are being printed and posted nationwide. Soccerteams put up the missing poster on their website and facebook pages.

Thanks for that Elainera *

That tiny bit of information is very interesting about him staying in Hotels and not in his flat.
Do you think it is legitimate information?
I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else as yet.

I had the impression that he rented a flat because he had a White Shepherd dog which went with him everywhere.
I know the papers also said it was a private place for Maria and Haase to meet, but if he didn't have a rented apartment - where did he keep the dog?
Did he leave it at home?

The Honeymoon phase always ends - sad but true
And I have wondered what will happen long term to Maria if she does not come home and she is with Haase. What about her education - her identity - her prospects as a young adult?

As her mother asked in her last blog - Maria, are you still there voluntarily?

I hope there is news soon - 250 leads and nothing?!
If they are in the Country, someone somewhere must have seen her.
I had wondered if she had changed her appearance in some way - cut her hair or coloured it - or both. Maybe wears a hat with her hair up.

She does look different in her photos though - she seems like she has a few different looks to her style. The eyes and face shape though - she's still recognizable.

:dunno:

 

[FigTree]

On the blog it says flyers are being printed and posted nationwide. Soccerteams put up the missing poster on their website and facebook pages.

Forgot to comment on how great this bit of info is!