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[Barnaby]

It's just my opinion that she looked that way - it's in the eye of the beholder, but so is body language.

You can look through Colomom's picture gallery, which is where I found this one:

But the day I thought she looked like that was when she was named "Arguido." There are alot of pictures of her on the street - I remember seeing that on the news and wondering about her because she had a strange look on her face. Here is one that was widely published that day:

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Thoughtfox, in this pic I think she not only looks sly but smug & that look is an evil one IMO!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...rangelooks.jpg​

 

[Barnaby]

Irrelevant probably but why the heck did they particularly kate always carry a backpack? I just thought about it again looking at that pic of her on the day she was named an arguido. Why did she need a backpack going to the police station & why the heck not carry a handbag like most other women! Quite strange for a married woman of her age always to carry a backpack! definitely out of charachter for her middle class status!

 

[CaliKid]

Barnaby, she had a backpack because she wasn't allowed to go home after her first interrogation. The PJ made her stay away so she wouldn't speak to Gerry who was due to be interrogated the next day. The backpack probably had a change of clothes and other items she'd need.

 

[Barnaby]

Barnaby, she had a backpack because she wasn't allowed to go home after her first interrogation. The PJ made her stay away so she wouldn't speak to Gerry who was due to be interrogated the next day. The backpack probably had a change of clothes and other items she'd need.

Oh I didn't know that Cali, thanks. Funny I wondered had she been allowed to go home between the two interrogations.

 

[Jayelles]

And we've also used websites that measure body language for deception, and it appears as if both parents lied on one of their longest interviews- the one colomom linked above. It was very suspicious for deception on both parents' parts.

Do you have a link to the other websites? I'd be interested to see them.

 

[Jayelles]

And make sure and read a more recent observation:

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine McCann

Tuesday, September 18, 2007

Peculiar McCann Video

"There is a video of the McCanns being interviewed by a reporter on YouTube that is getting attention. People are questioning the interview because Mr. McCann's behavior is different in this video than in other videos, and they are correct.

In the video, Gerry's voice loses strength, he smiles, looks away and he scratches his ear. While none of these are clues to deceit by themselves, combined --and compared to other instances of Gerry talking -- his behavior here is unique -- and that is a red flag.

That is about all that can be said about this video.

Does this video change my original position that I believe the McCanns had nothing to do with the disappearance of their daughter? No, it does not."

And in the comments here: http://www.haloscan.com/comments/fredettte/4682346277046908873/#1779528, at least she is considering:

"I clearly state on my blog my abilities and limitations. There is no secret in that and if I miss a case -- I am human and will accept it -- but that doesn't mean I don't have abilities, folks. Stick to the facts."

The video in question was a clip of Gerry being asked if they had given Madeleine Calpol.

Calpol is not a sedative. It is a simple painkiller which can be purchased over the counter in newspaper shops. I'd be most surprised if they'd never given their children Calpol.

 

[Barnaby]

The video in question was a clip of Gerry being asked if they had given Madeleine Calpol.

Calpol is not a sedative. It is a simple painkiller which can be purchased over the counter in newspaper shops. I'd be most surprised if they'd never given their children Calpol.

Yes I agree that parents give their children Calpol, I did when mine had a high temperature with teething or childhood illness such as chickenpox. The difference is that you give it like all medicine when it is needed not to make your child go to sleep as it is inconvenient for you if they are awake & you cannot leave them alone to go out to dinner!

 

[Jayelles]

Yes I agree that parents give their children Calpol, I did when mine had a high temperature with teething or childhood illness such as chickenpox. The difference is that you give it like all medicine when it is needed not to make your child go to sleep as it is inconvenient for you if they are awake & you cannot leave them alone to go out to dinner!

Calpol does not contain a sedative. The only way it would help a child to sleep is if the child was prevented from sleeping because it was fevered or in pain. It would then reduce the fever/kill the pain which was preventing the child from sleeping in the first place.

 

[Jayelles]

Here is a link to Sara Payne being interviewed when her daughter Sarah went missing. Note how calm she is. There were people who believed the Paynes were involved in their daughter's death, but in fact she had been abducted and murdered by a dangerous paedophile.

http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/sea...&tab=av&edition=d&start=2&scope=all&link=next

There are different formats for the interview.

 

[daffodil]

Thoughtfox, in this pic I think she not only looks sly but smug & that look is an evil one IMO!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...rangelooks.jpg​

Sly,smug AND evil-wow thats some projecting you are doing there OTOH I just see a woman forcing a smile.

 

[PharmSleuth]

Calpol does not contain a sedative. The only way it would help a child to sleep is if the child was prevented from sleeping because it was fevered or in pain.

Calpol (aka acetaminophen) is not *indicated* for sedation...you are correct. BUT overdosage of it can cause drowsiness and repeated overdosing can lead to death-there are actually 4 stages of acetaminophen poisoning-it would take days unless it was combined with other drugs or she has a medical condition-both of which we don't know at this time. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe her weight is classified as unknown on the posters. Since it is dosed by weight and she is small, if they dosed he on age repeatedly, it is in the realm of possibility. I am waiting for the tox results, though, as I find this a less probable drug to be the culprit.

Also, it is used for "social medication" and there are many parents who swear by it. Here is a study from Pediatrics about this very concept. [FONT=&quot]http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/114/3/e378

I will bring your attention to a few excerpted paragraphs, which eerily correspond (my red text) well to this case regarding why parents give their children it.

[/FONT] Preemptive Treatment
Preemptive treatment was another indication for OTC medication administration; we classified this as "social medication" because the parents were using the medication for what they had observed as a side effect (altering the behavior or state of arousal of the child), rather than for its intended purpose (to reduce pain and/or pyrexia in the case of acetaminophen or to reduce respiratory symptoms in the case of the cold and cough medications). For mothers, the indications for preemptive treatment included a set of signs and behaviors such as "he looked like he may have been brewing something," "she wasn't her normal self," "grumpy," "was generally unhappy," "whining," "cranky," "one tantrum after another," "grizzly," "fractious," and "overtired." Mothers also described their "intuition," "gut feeling," and "maternal instinct" as instrumental in their deciding when "a dose of something was needed."

[FONT=&quot]Behavior Change
Acetaminophen was administered to manage several problems. Mothers were adamant about its pharmacologic action in calming children and causing sleepiness (a side effect they also observed in their own use of the drug), and one referred to it as her "cure-all."
Acetaminophen was also purported to ward off the "sad feelings children get when they are not feeling well." Descriptions for acetaminophen usage included the following. "If they are not sleeping at night, I give them Panadol [acetaminophen]." "I often give my daughter Dymadon or Panadol [both acetaminophen], especially lately as she has been grizzly because she has been teething and this always seems to calm her down." "Last week he was cranky because he lost his Elmo sunglasses, which are his favorite, and he would not calm down, so I gave him some Panadol, which settled him . . ." "Before I met my husband, who is a doctor, I didn't like taking Panadol myself. [/FONT] But he made me realize that it was a ‘quality of life’ issue. Now I just think, ‘if it gets us through the day, I'll give it to him [her son] freely.’ "
...snip....
Another reason for social medication was the need for parents to be able to leave the "unhappy" child in other people's care, allowing the parents to go to work or engage in a role other than parenting. "The last time there was something wrong with my daughter, she was crying a lot, so I knew it was teething or some other problem. I gave her Infant Panadol [pediatric acetaminophen] and sent her to day care because I couldn't afford to miss work that day." "At the kindergarten that our son goes to, parents are sending their kids to kinder with all kinds of germs because they have to go to work. So they dose them up with medication and give the child care workers the medication with instructions to give them further doses throughout the day."

[FONT=&quot]For the Sanity of the Parents
For most of the mothers who reported using OTC medications, the major problem was the inability of the child to sleep or a belief that the child "ought" to sleep to feel better and thus improve his or her behavior. Others just needed the children to sleep when they, as parents, were exhausted. "To keep functioning my wife and I have to have a good night's sleep. So we trade off giving the drug to have a good night's sleep." A few described OTC use as necessary just to break a child's cycle of bad sleeping habits. Sedation was, therefore, a major reason for the administration of medication for more than one-half of the mothers interviewed..snip..[/FONT][FONT=&quot].[/FONT]

 

[Jayelles]

You need an awful lot of Calpol for an overdose and you'd be talking about serious overdose by the time it caused drowsiness. A friend of mine's daughter accidentally took 5 sachets of Calpol and wasn't even sent to hospital.

Calpol (paracetemol) damages the liver and a major overdose would result in a slow and painful death. I don't think a doctor would overdose their child on Calpol. I think most people know paracetemol is a nasty death. I don't think any parent (let alone one with medical expertise) would give their child dangerous amounts of Calpol to bring on sufficient drowsiness to let them have an undisturbed sleep.

 

[PharmSleuth]

An overdose is technically more than the recommended dose, but yes, I agree with you Jayelles. As I said, OD'ing on acetaminophen to the point of death is improbable but possible, especially if she had other drugs on board or a medical condition.

Overdose symptoms *can* appear within 12-24 hours and persist for greater than 1 week: nausea, vomiting, sweating, drowsiness, confusion, and loss of appetite (stage 1).48 -72hours is when the liver damage can be measured with enzyme testing . Continuous high dosing can then go from liver damage to coma to death.

My understanding is that acetaminophen is not a easy drug to pick up in forensic hair analysis (this is what supposedly is being done in the UK labs), but barbiturates,opioids benzodiazapenes(valium et al) diphenhydramine (Benadryl, also an over the counter drug and in children is used for the side effect of sedation)and lots of illicit substances can be picked up.Lots of confounding factors to the hair analysis with a big one in my mind being chlorine (since she had been swimming a lot) would be in her hair.

 

[CaliKid]

http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php

Avoiding eye contact, hands touching face (Gerry repetedly did this), getting defensive, etc.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php

Avoiding eye contact, hands touching face (Gerry repetedly did this), getting defensive, etc.

That is a pretty interesting web site. My problem is, I do all the things in your post, most all the time...LOL I have always been terrible with eye contact, and I'm always touching my face, nose and eyes and ears. In my case, everyone must think I'm I'm lying all the time.

 

[SleuthMom]

In my case, everyone must think I'm I'm lying all the time.

And you are??? Just kidding eh! :laugh:

 

[colomom]

Gerry's Blog/Diary

Day 155 - 05/10/2007

It has been a quieter week for Kate and I. We did go into the Leicester Mercury on Wednesday to pick up a cheque for Madeleine’s Fund from donations for green and yellow wristbands. We did our first interview since returning from Portugal to say a huge thank you to everyone, especially here in Leicestershire, for supporting us during these last few dark weeks and months. Click here to read the interview. We have talked a little of life returning to ‘normal’ in Rothley. Several photographers are still in the village but otherwise it has been very quiet.

Kate and I will be going through the judicial process in Portugal to try and clear our name as quickly as possible. Obviously it is encouraging that the prosecutor has stated that all lines of enquiry are open. It is likely that we will be ‘arguidos’ for some time since this status remains until charges are brought or up to 8 months if no charges are made. The investigation will have a new coordinator appointed to replace chief inspector Amaral. We are happy to continue cooperating with the Portuguese authorities and in fact as arguidos, we can request that certain investigations are carried out

 

[SleuthMom]

and in fact as arguidos, we can request that certain investigations are carried out

If this is accurate, does anyone know exactly what can or cannot an arguido request?

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

And you are??? Just kidding eh! :laugh:

Who me?? :liar: LOL... Actually, I think some of my sons ASD has rubbed off on me....or no, maybe I rubbed off on him? :angel:

Heck, I think it's just ragweed and goldenrod season. I always got an itch somewhere.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I just found this great link on the Missing Forum - A new archive of the complete Blog, with pictures! :dance:

This should be a really good resource in the days ahead.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pamela.watson43/pamalam/GERRY'S BLOG DIARY.htm