Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #3

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Can food stamps be given just to anybody?
I thought they are given to ppl who provide evidence of being destitute/bankruptcy.
I have seen where people with food stamps will sell them for cash to purchase drugs/cigarettes/not allowed items. They will sell for less than the value of the stamp like $100 in stamps for $50 in cash.
 
Correct, food stamp eligibility is based on income. For a family of 4 in NY State, you are eligible for food stamps (SNAP) if your household has less than $41,628 in annual gross income.

Now wondering if perhaps multiple domiciles or residences and addresses? And possibly jockeying income totals to meet the need?
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I can't seem to figure out or have yet to read how RH's wife's hair was at the crime scene, or what is the connection? If his family was out of town during the killings, how did a strand or two of the wife's hair come into play. Is there thoughts that the victims were taken back to the house, or just trying to piece that together. I mean it can lead to a theory that there is more to this story than what we know... Just some thoughts.

His wife's hair could have easily been transferred from his clothes or even from his vehicle. We discussed earlier that long hair (like his wife had) would likely be everywhere, even without noticing it.
 
I have been wondering where RH's wife and family would stay right now while the house is being searched as they don't appear to have the financial means to stay in a hotel, etc. But the NY Times article that was posted above states that the wife has family in the area, not too far from her home. Glad to hear that, and hopefully that will be some kind of support system for her as she and the children go through this.
 
So, RH was not yet charged in the murder of MBB, but that seems like it might happen in the very near future. MBB was very likely his first victim (certainly first of the famed Gilgo 4 predating the other three by two years). Its worth noting that the belt with the "WH" initial (presumably belonging to his late father William Heuerman), was taken off the body of MBB, as the others were mentioned being bound by duct tape and not belts. According to the bail document; the buckle of that "WH" belt had the hair of RH's wife on it - meaning it was probably from the house where they both resided and not stored away on some closet or storage bin or storage unit that his wife did not frequent. The belt was out in plain sight in their house to the point where a hair of his wife's could thankfully find its way on it. If the belt was in plain sight, one would think the "WH" initials would be seen at some point by anyone in the house visiting, or otherwise. The photos of the initials were all over the TV and newspaper the days after the SCPD released those photos. A friend of mine in SC even saw it on the news as did its his dad too.
Also interesting in the MBB case, is that she is the only one of the four not associated with the duck blind camouflage burlap. We know from the bail docs that it mentions only 3 of the 4 girls in burlap and that two of the victims had hairs removed from the burlap (Waterman and Costello mentioned by name). Furthermore, we know that canine unit PO who initially found the Barthelemy body specifically mentioned 'disintegrated burlap'. So that leaves MBB as the sole outlier. She was two full ears prior to the other 3 girls, bound with three belts instead of duct tape, and picked up from NYC (not Long Island motels like the other girls). The use of a family object like a custom belt hints that RH grabbed what was laying around in a pinch, and perhaps what happened to MBB was not planned for and his initial killing was not as premeditated as other years later. MOO. Anyone who googles a picture of the duck-blind camo burlap and is familiar with the brush on the side of Ocean parkway will see an absolutely perfect match and one that clearly shows a well thought out and premeditated choice. The duck blind camo isn't your typical army camo, it matches the tans and brown grasses of ocean marsh brush identically (see photo attached) - and is designed to do so as that is where these duck blinds typically are located. We see a killer evolving, preparing for his next kills, fine tuning, being a little more meticulous, but luckily not meticulous enough.
 

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I have been wondering where RH's wife and family would stay right now while the house is being searched as they don't appear to have the financial means to stay in a hotel, etc. But the NY Times article that was posted above states that the wife has family in the area, not too far from her home. Glad to hear that, and hopefully that will be some kind of support system for her as she and the children go through this.

I thought the wife is gainfully employed.
She should be fine unless she was fired because of him.
 
perhaps what happened to MBB was not planned for and his initial killing was not as premeditated as other years later. MOO. Anyone who googles a picture of the duck-blind camo burlap and is familiar with the brush on the side of Ocean parkway will see an absolutely perfect match and one that clearly shows a well thought out and premeditated choice. The duck blind camo isn't your typical army camo, it matches the tans and brown grasses of ocean marsh brush identically (see photo attached) - and is designed to do so as that is where these duck blinds typically are located. We see a killer evolving, preparing for his next kills, fine tuning, being a little more meticulous, but luckily not meticulous enough.
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I had thought the same thing, that the use of a belt seemed not as planned out as the other murders.

Interesting information about the coloring of the camo burlap that is specifically used for duck blinds, that it matches the color of the grasses of ocean marsh environment. Other posters have posted information indicating that RH did some duck hunting, so either he had this special duck blind camo burlap at his house or he purposely went out and bought it for the purpose of hiding his victims in the marshy area of Gilgo Beach.
 
I thought the wife is gainfully employed.
She should be fine unless she was fired because of him.
I haven't seen anywhere in MSM that RH's wife is employed.

But if she is, then I doubt that she is following her regularly life routine right now, so I doubt she is showing up for work anywhere. I think she would be hounded by reporters and the Daily Mail and/or other MSM would be discussing this in the media.

I think she is more likely hunkered down with her family and doing what they can to protect themselves from the onslaught of media and, of course, trying to come to terms with what has happened and its impact on their lives.
 
If you go on judyrecords and search RH, a speeding tic for the state of VA shows up from 3/14/12…would that have possibly been on a trip to SC? Any missing SW from around that time period? I couldn’t find the city, county, municipality for the ticket, but maybe someone else can.

If you happen upon his dispositions for his prior lawsuits there is a lot of info and might explain why he was in Virginia. Imo
 
I can't seem to figure out or have yet to read how RH's wife's hair was at the crime scene, or what is the connection? If his family was out of town during the killings, how did a strand or two of the wife's hair come into play. Is there thoughts that the victims were taken back to the house, or just trying to piece that together. I mean it can lead to a theory that there is more to this story than what we know... Just some thoughts.
Strands of her hair could have easily been on his body and or clothes or in the car and were transferred to the victim. The victims may have been brought back to the house but I don’t necessarily think that happened. JMO
 
I agree. I can't tell if he wanted to know because it's exciting that people finally know or shame that his family/friends know. I also get the sense with how he was trying to talk with people about the case that he wants to talk. His lawyers may stop it from happening but I think he wants to talk, like Dennis Radar. I would not be surprise if they gather an insurmountable amount of evidence from the house/storage/etc that he just confesses to everything. It'll let him re-live it again.
I have the same feeling. I think this guy wants to talk. JMO
 
So, RH was not yet charged in the murder of MBB, but that seems like it might happen in the very near future. MBB was very likely his first victim (certainly first of the famed Gilgo 4 predating the other three by two years). Its worth noting that the belt with the "WH" initial (presumably belonging to his late father William Heuerman), was taken off the body of MBB, as the others were mentioned being bound by duct tape and not belts. According to the bail document; the buckle of that "WH" belt had the hair of RH's wife on it - meaning it was probably from the house where they both resided and not stored away on some closet or storage bin or storage unit that his wife did not frequent. The belt was out in plain sight in their house to the point where a hair of his wife's could thankfully find its way on it. If the belt was in plain sight, one would think the "WH" initials would be seen at some point by anyone in the house visiting, or otherwise. The photos of the initials were all over the TV and newspaper the days after the SCPD released those photos. A friend of mine in SC even saw it on the news as did its his dad too.
Also interesting in the MBB case, is that she is the only one of the four not associated with the duck blind camouflage burlap. We know from the bail docs that it mentions only 3 of the 4 girls in burlap and that two of the victims had hairs removed from the burlap (Waterman and Costello mentioned by name). Furthermore, we know that canine unit PO who initially found the Barthelemy body specifically mentioned 'disintegrated burlap'. So that leaves MBB as the sole outlier. She was two full ears prior to the other 3 girls, bound with three belts instead of duct tape, and picked up from NYC (not Long Island motels like the other girls). The use of a family object like a custom belt hints that RH grabbed what was laying around in a pinch, and perhaps what happened to MBB was not planned for and his initial killing was not as premeditated as other years later. MOO. Anyone who googles a picture of the duck-blind camo burlap and is familiar with the brush on the side of Ocean parkway will see an absolutely perfect match and one that clearly shows a well thought out and premeditated choice. The duck blind camo isn't your typical army camo, it matches the tans and brown grasses of ocean marsh brush identically (see photo attached) - and is designed to do so as that is where these duck blinds typically are located. We see a killer evolving, preparing for his next kills, fine tuning, being a little more meticulous, but luckily not meticulous enough.
Yes, and if the case, would seem to support some of the arguments that I believe Peter Brendt was offering in episodes of The Killing Season on the A&E documentary series. In other words typically important to go back to the first confirmed case of an assailant in such cases and look for clues or indicators of what was done and information left. And subsequent incidents might evolve or differ. At least that is what I surmised, but I have a few episodes more to go. And I am assuredly no expert on this. MOO.
 
I have been wondering where RH's wife and family would stay right now while the house is being searched as they don't appear to have the financial means to stay in a hotel, etc. But the NY Times article that was posted above states that the wife has family in the area, not too far from her home. Glad to hear that, and hopefully that will be some kind of support system for her as she and the children go through this.
I'm not advocating for sleuthing the family since that's clearly against TOS, but I'm a bit confused as to how the wife and kids could have been out of town on vacations while he was killing these women, and they (family) also paid for groceries with food stamps.

Wouldn't being financially eligible for food stamps pretty much preclude any idea of having the $$ to take out of town vacations?
 
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