Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #5

[LadyL]

Suffolk County Commissioner Raymond would not confirm claims by a neighbor who said investigators found a soundproof room in the home's basement.

'Somehow some bad information got out there is not a soundproof room,' he explained. 'There is a vault where he secured numerous guns - there is no soundproof room.'

Cops use excavator in Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect's backyard

Investigators have been spotted using bulldozers to dig up the backyard of Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect Rex Heuermann - as they revealed the search could be over soon.

www.dailymail.co.uk

which neighbour was it? I want to make sure to not listen to anything else they tell the press

 

[LadyL]

Her response is so unusual. No shock. “It is what it is”

I don't think she actually said that - I think it was the person's interpretation of her attitude/behaviour

 

[ArianeEmory]

True, however these sources were being applied by all the news aggregators where people read most news.

At that point, it becomes a matter of media literacy, IMO. If people are going to read 'news aggregators'/get their news from Facebook or whatever, they need to be able to recognize that the original NY Post article quoted an unnamed 'former co-worker' and a neighbor and weight the story accordingly.

Especially if you follow true crime, it's super helpful to recognize that unless a quote is attributed to someone directly working on the case, not an 'expert' or an 'ex-FBI agent' or whatever, everything should be taken with a grain of salt. There are a couple of big news outlets that are obviously printing money off true crime stories, and they will obviously interview as many unnamed neighbors/co-workers as necessary to keep their clicks up ... but that's not true of all media.

 

[ArmChairDet]

sbm

This!

I continue to wonder what Mr. Plan Maker's long-term plan was? Just die and let all this be discovered later? Create a mess for others to be disgusted by after he died or was infirm? When did he plan to get rid of stuff?

I agree it shows utter disdain for his wife and family to live like this and I wonder if he relished that he was diminishing their lives without them knowing the extent of it.

Ogre.

jmo

I assume he thought he wouldn't be caught.

 

[Dotta]

If there is never any evidence found that shows that RH brought a victim to that house, then it will be easier to sell it, I would think, after it is fixed up and some time goes by. I doubt that his wife would want to live there again, but if the house is jointly owned, then perhaps she can force a sale if RH is found guilty - or as a result of the divorce - and then use her part of the proceeds to move somewhere where she can move forward with her life while caring for her son and daughter.

I guess a plot of land is quite expensive.
The house can be demolished and the land sold.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

I decided to go through the documents in RH's civil proceedings for pertinent information:

In response to a question about what company he works for, RH responds: "Rex A. Heuermann Architect. There's actually multiple companies. There's RH Consultants & Associates, Inc., and the third one is RMR Inspection Group." (pg. 10 of the Examination Before Trial (EBT) in Heuremann v O'Sullivan)

When asked about how many days off work he missed following the accident on January 11, 2017, RH explains that he missed "approximately four days, maybe five" but that he missed additional days of work because he "needed to be at a [work-related] convention" in Las Vegas for "four or five days" at the "end of the following week." (pgs. 16-18 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

When asked if he plays any sports, RH responds that "really [the] only thing I competed in was competition rifle." (pg. 79 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

RH explains that although he is left-handed in "almost anything else," including "the use of any carpentry tools," besides swinging a golf club or bat. (pg. 80 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

A physical therapist came to RH's home in Massapequa Park and "set up the equipment" at some point after his shoulder surgery in February 2018 (pg. 105 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

When asked about how often RH experiences pain in his right hip, RH responds: "When I do a lot of walking or in dealing with stairs, and I take a lot of subways in the city which require me to go in and out of the subway multiple times a day, which is a lot of stairs." (pg. 109 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

RH stated he "stopped [his] bicycle riding" after the accident and "had to have the kids do" the yard work. He also had to "cut back on any woodworking, [and] any work in the house" as well as shooting (pgs. 115-116 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

Not related to a specific incident, but when asked what activities he had to stop doing as a result of the accident, RH responds "I really don't do much. All I do is work and deal with family." (pgs. 120 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

When asked if he had traveled outside New York following the conference in Las Vegas, RH says that either he or his wife drove to Virginia to deal with RH's mother "at least a half a dozen" times between February 2017 and April 2018. RH says that he has "been down there [Virginia] without [his] wife" at least two or three times during that time period. He also visited Florida. (pgs. 126-128 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

Timeline of events

- 1987: Started working in Manhattan (pg. 47 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 12 June 1995: RH files a small claims assessment review against Nassau County in Nassau Supreme Court (Heuermann v Nassau)

- October 31, 2013: RH is allegedly (case later dismissed) struck by a car at the intersection of West 36th Street and 6th Avenue in Manhattan (Affirmation in Opposition in Heuermann v Singh)

- 2014 or 2015: RH had hernia surgery (pg. 99 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 19 February 2016: RH allegedly is involved in a car accident on the Capital Beltway in Prince George's County, Maryland (pg. 3 of the complaint in Heuermann v Martin)

- 11 January 2017, 10:15 p.m.: Car accident at the intersection of Front Street and Second Avenue in Massapequa Park (pg. 35 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- March 2017: RH drives down to Virginia to visit his mom by himself. (pg. 129 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- November 2017: RH visits Las Vegas alone "for a couple days to meet some people." When asked, "so it was a pleasure trip?," RH responds "I guess you could say that, social." (pg. 133 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- January 2018: RH drives down to Cocoa Beach, Florida with his wife, mother, and daughter (pg. 131 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 12 February 2018: RH underwent shoulder surgery. RH explains that his "intention was to do it [the surgery] in the fall" but that he "was tied up with some family matters that forced [him] to delay," namely, his mother "had to be relocated" (pg. 102 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- March 2018: RH drives down to Virginia to visit his mom, most likely alone (pg. 131 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- Late March - Early April 2018: RH drives his army Jeep "for the first time since September" (pg. 117 of the EBT in Heuermann v O'Sullivan)

- 23 February 2022: RH allegedly gets into a car accident near the intersection of Union Avenue and Devoe Street in Brooklyn (pg. 5 of complaint in Heuermann v Fenimore)

 

[passionflower]

If a vault is really think, as someone said 2 feet walls of concrete wouldn’t it be soundproof? With an huge vault door? Scarey to me 12x15 size? Any gun collectors? My friend (deceased) was a gun smith and had a shop. He had nothing like a room like that. It was by his home and just all security bells and whistles.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

And while he confirmed the Suffolk County Medical Examiner’s Office has a team stationed at the suspect’s Nassau County house, Harrison would not answer questions about female victims potentially being killed there.

“I can’t confirm anything about anybody ever being inside this house, at this time,” Harrison told PIX11 News.

Medical examiner’s team at Gilgo Beach murders suspect’s LI home

MASSAPEQUA PARK, N.Y. (PIX11) – With helicopters buzzing overhead, Suffolk Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison on Monday said ground-penetrating radar was being used in a backyard dig at the Long I…

pix11.com

This strikes me as unusual. Does the ME's office have so little to do that they can have a team just standing around there in case they are needed?

 

[Momoffourboys]

The police chief beat me to it..while it is still very much a crime scene with trucks and command center, lots of police tape and press swarming about, it has quieted down quite a bit. Not that many nosey bodies (). Just a few neighbors outside. No digging. No jack hammering.
As for the storage units, no LE at either locations. Interesting to note, the two locations are a few hundred feet from each other. The one on Sunrise highway is at the on ramp for Rt 110 and the second is at the off ramp for Rt 110. Business as usual at both.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Also, locals are not happy that RH put Massapequa Park on the map for THIS and concerned home values will plummet.

 

[FansBlowing]

I want to know who the father of Peaches' baby is. Maybe it is RH and she was trying to get him to take responsibility for the baby.

 

[passionflower]

The police chief beat me to it..while it is still very much a crime scene with trucks and command center, lots of police tape and press swarming about, it has quieted down quite a bit. Not that many nosey bodies (). Just a few neighbors outside. No digging. No jack hammering.
As for the storage units, no LE at either locations. Interesting to note, the two locations are a few hundred feet from each other. The one on Sunrise highway is at the on ramp for Rt 110 and the second is at the off ramp for Rt 110. Business as usual at both.

Maybe LE found enough evidence to nail him!!!

 

[Momoffourboys]

Massive walk-in vault uncovered in ‘fruitful’ search of Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann’s home

Cops found a walk-in vault at the home of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann’s home during what Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison called a “fruitful”…

nypost.com

…
There have been some things that we’ve had to take into custody… That makes it fruitful,” he told reporters.

“There’s not a soundproof room. There is a vault where he secured numerous amounts of guns,” Harrison said, referring to Heuermann.

“Somehow I believe the soundproof room and the vault — the message got misconstrued.”

He said the vault was secured with a “big iron door.”

 

[ArmChairDet]

If a vault is really think, as someone said 2 feet walls of concrete wouldn’t it be soundproof? With an huge vault door? Scarey to me 12x15 size? Any gun collectors? My friend (deceased) was a gun smith and had a shop. He had nothing like a room like that. It was by his home and just all security bells and whistles.

Pretty sure the 2 foot was just rumor (I am betting on 8" concrete block in reality). A gun vault would have more than a wood door for security. 12x15 if correct would be possible 200 guns is more than most sporting goods stores carry.

 

[passionflower]

I want to know who the father of Peaches' baby is. Maybe it is RH and she was trying to get him to take responsibility for the baby.

I wondered about STD to wife but the police found condoms.

 

[Inthedetails]

I assume he thought he wouldn't be caught.

But eventually he would die (or retire and move).

I know others aren't curious about this, but I do wonder what he planned to do with...stuff. LE is obviously finding evidence in the house. They wouldn't be hauling things away for days on end otherwise.

I guess the wife and daughter would be left with that task if he wasn't caught. Didn't he care if they found incriminating items about their husband/father? It's the least of his thoughtfulness, I know, but it is utterly thoughtless.

jmo

 

[Dhighsmith]

which neighbour was it? I want to make sure to not listen to anything else they tell the press

Amen to that- guess sometimes people just can’t help themselves.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Pretty sure the 2 foot was just rumor (I am betting on 8" concrete block in reality). A gun vault would have more than a wood door for security. 12x15 if correct would be possible 200 guns is more than most sporting goods stores carry.

Yeah, that one (2-3' thick concrete) originated with the NY Post and 'unnamed former colleague'.

 

[Inthedetails]

The police chief beat me to it..while it is still very much a crime scene with trucks and command center, lots of police tape and press swarming about, it has quieted down quite a bit. Not that many nosey bodies (). Just a few neighbors outside. No digging. No jack hammering.
As for the storage units, no LE at either locations. Interesting to note, the two locations are a few hundred feet from each other. The one on Sunrise highway is at the on ramp for Rt 110 and the second is at the off ramp for Rt 110. Business as usual at both.

Thank you, Reporter Momoffourboys!

 

[Inthedetails]

Amen to that- guess sometimes people just can’t help themselves.

It happens. We move on. Gather info, sift the facts from the fiction. Repeat.