Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #6

[bonniejeanne17]

But there was a problem: The homicide detectives chasing the lead were bordering on mutiny.

Prosecutors believed the detectives refused to follow orders and clashed with federal partners, multiple high-level law enforcement officials familiar with the case said. Detectives, meanwhile, felt that the district attorney at the time, Tim Sini, was forcing them to investigate leads they had already ruled out while ratcheting up pressure to solve the case before his 2021 reelection bid. The tension grew so high that, at Sini’s urging, the case’s longtime lead detective was removed.

I am gifting this article, it's important enough.

https://wapo.st/47fzglV

Thank you for this article. I hate to think how many girls may have died over the years while law enforcement groups were bickering over jurisdiction.

 

[kittythehare]

Thank you for this article. I hate to think how many girls may have died over the years while law enforcement groups were bickering over jurisdiction.

they chose not to see them as human.

 

[lonewanderer]

Any chance Rex would have been in Nebraska in 1997?

There’s a case of a man going barefoot into a gas station and shooting a woman who worked there.

His physical description is similar.

 

[acutename]

real hair or a cheap toupee? anyone know?

if you look at his high school yearbook photos which have been in MSM, it looks the same

 

[IzzyBlanche]

they chose not to see them as human.

I would add a bit more nuance. They chose not to see them as humans with any value.

 

[LadyL]

Any chance Rex would have been in Nebraska in 1997?

There’s a case of a man going barefoot into a gas station and shooting a woman who worked there.

His physical description is similar.

I don't think he has that widow's peak in his hairline

 

[Jurisprudence]

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From the Bail app at pp. 7-8 (emphasis mine)

"After the client entered the home, a ruse was executed on the client whereby a person pretended to be the outraged boyfriend of Amber Costello and the client left from the residence, while Amber Costello retained the money the client had brought to pay for her services...

...Thereafter, at approximately 1:18 a.m., on September 2, after the ruse had been perpetrated, the burner cellphone sent a text message to the Costello Phone, which stated, “That was not nice so do i [sic] credit for next time.” Phone records show that the burner phone was located in Massapequa Park, within two minutes of this text message being sent.

.... the next day.. Ms. Costello was again contacted by the same client that was in the house the night before with the Avalanche. Further, “Amber told us that he wanted to see her again...

...the same burner cellphone from the previous evening again communicated with the Costello Phone...in Midtown Manhattan.... travel[ing] to Massapequa Park and had contacts with the Costello Phone at approximately 10:39 p.m. and 11:05 p.m.

Cell site records for the burner phone indicate that ... the phone [then] traveled to West Babylon in proximity to the residence of Amber Costello. Subsequently, Amber Costello left her own cellphone behind, walked out the front door of the residence, and was seen alive for the last time."

Rex Heuermann Bail Application

www.documentcloud.org

 

[acutename]

Snipped and bolded.

A defendant in a U.S. court never has to prove innocence. It is the burden of the government (the prosecutors) to prove guilt.

And in this case, I think the prosecutors have enough for a jury to convict. The only defense, from what I can tell, would be to poke holes in the investigation and try to dismiss evidence from being presented in court. I don't think that tactic will work. He's toast, imo.

jmo

his defense will have to be that he just picked SWs who all happened to be killed by some one else- of course he called them....and he left hairs- of course he did. Not sure about the harassing calls to relatives. that's a tough one to explain away, but those will have to have been done by the other killer. wonder if he has any alibis for the days the victims disappeared. so long ago it would be unusual if he has calendars from those dates, but LE is saying it was when his family was away. He can have other SWs testify that he was always nice and polite to them; would not hurt a fly.

 

[twall]

real hair or a cheap toupee? anyone know?

Real imo. (now I'm having Phil Spector flashbacks!)

 

[Warwick7]

So he got burner phones but saved them all? What exactly connects the burner phones to the victims and their families? I thought the killer used the victim's phones to taunt families?

Your answer lies in the Bail Document.

Read Rex Heuermann's redacted and denied bail application due to ‘extreme depravity'

A Long Island architect was charged Friday with murder in the deaths of three of the 11 victims in a long-unsolved string of killings known as the Gilgo Beach murders after detectives pursuing a new lead say they matched DNA from a pizza he ate to genetic material found on the women’s remains...

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[Warwick7]

Have you read the actual doc? You should. There is a lot more than just pervy google searches. They have a ton of cell data Linking him to the burner phones. And those burner phones linked to victims and their families.

Bail application Rex Heuermann Gilgo Beach

www.documentcloud.org

Excellent comment!

 

[Pavor Nocturnus]

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From the Bail app at pp. 7-8 (emphasis mine)

"After the client entered the home, a ruse was executed on the client whereby a person pretended to be the outraged boyfriend of Amber Costello and the client left from the residence, while Amber Costello retained the money the client had brought to pay for her services...

...Thereafter, at approximately 1:18 a.m., on September 2, after the ruse had been perpetrated, the burner cellphone sent a text message to the Costello Phone, which stated, “That was not nice so do i [sic] credit for next time.” Phone records show that the burner phone was located in Massapequa Park, within two minutes of this text message being sent.

.... the next day.. Ms. Costello was again contacted by the same client that was in the house the night before with the Avalanche. Further, “Amber told us that he wanted to see her again...

...the same burner cellphone from the previous evening again communicated with the Costello Phone...in Midtown Manhattan.... travel[ing] to Massapequa Park and had contacts with the Costello Phone at approximately 10:39 p.m. and 11:05 p.m.

Cell site records for the burner phone indicate that ... the phone [then] traveled to West Babylon in proximity to the residence of Amber Costello. Subsequently, Amber Costello left her own cellphone behind, walked out the front door of the residence, and was seen alive for the last time."

Rex Heuermann Bail Application

www.documentcloud.org

So is it Schaller who's claiming that the Frankenstein-looking guy was driving a Chevrolet Avalanche and was scammed by Amber Costello the very night before she disappeared? And that "Frankenstein" was the same guy who called and offered her $1500 and wanted to leave her phone behind? Or is it just the same burner phone involved in the calls and the messages? And why would anyone let her go with the same guy she scammed, especially if he was an ogre-looking guy who seemed VERY anxious to see her again, at another place and without her phone?

 

[Jurisprudence]

So is it Schaller who's claiming that the Frankenstein-looking guy was driving a Chevrolet Avalanche and was scammed by Amber Costello the very night before she disappeared? And that "Frankenstein" was the same guy who called and offered her $1500 and wanted to leave her phone behind? Or is it just the same burner phone involved in the calls and the messages? And why would anyone let her go with the same guy she scammed, especially if he was an ogre-looking guy who seemed VERY anxious to see her again, at another place and without her phone?

First part, I do not know. The filed document does not name the person but interestingly does use the term witnesses (plural) in the first part. Was there more than one person there one of those nights? Were there 2 different people there on different nights? One the night before and another the night of? Unclear. With respect to the second part, money is my guess.

jmo

 

[hazel324]

his defense will have to be that he just picked SWs who all happened to be killed by some one else- of course he called them....and he left hairs- of course he did. Not sure about the harassing calls to relatives. that's a tough one to explain away, but those will have to have been done by the other killer. wonder if he has any alibis for the days the victims disappeared. so long ago it would be unusual if he has calendars from those dates, but LE is saying it was when his family was away. He can have other SWs testify that he was always nice and polite to them; would not hurt a fly.

Hairs were stuck to the tape that bound the victims....whoever did the binding did the killing

 

[ArianeEmory]

So is it Schaller who's claiming that the Frankenstein-looking guy was driving a Chevrolet Avalanche and was scammed by Amber Costello the very night before she disappeared? And that "Frankenstein" was the same guy who called and offered her $1500 and wanted to leave her phone behind? Or is it just the same burner phone involved in the calls and the messages? And why would anyone let her go with the same guy she scammed, especially if he was an ogre-looking guy who seemed VERY anxious to see her again, at another place and without her phone?

I don’t think I’m following your breadcrumbs very well. Are you saying RH is innocent? Or just that he didn’t kill Amber Costello?

Interesting user name (“night terrors”), and welcome to websleuths.

 

[Pavor Nocturnus]

"among the items uncovered were cellphone billing records for Defendant Heuermann corresponding to cell site locations for 1) the bumer cellphones used to arrange meetings with three of the four victims, 2) the taunting calls made to a relative of Ms. Barthelemy. 3) a call made by a detective to Ms. Barthelemy’s cellphone while looking into her disappearance and 4) calls checking voicemail on Ms. Brainard-Bames® cellphone after her disappearance." (DocumentCloud)


Maybe my English is off but does this text state that Heuermann's own cellphone (non-burner) records correspond to the same cell site locations as the burner phones? So cell sites/towers in or near Massapequa and Midtown Manhattan?

 

[FromGermany1]

I don't think he has that widow's peak in his hairline

THAT ^^ and also the suspect was mid 20's; RH was mid 30's then in 1997.

 

[ArianeEmory]

"among the items uncovered were cellphone billing records for Defendant Heuermann corresponding to cell site locations for 1) the bumer cellphones used to arrange meetings with three of the four victims, 2) the taunting calls made to a relative of Ms. Barthelemy. 3) a call made by a detective to Ms. Barthelemy’s cellphone while looking into her disappearance and 4) calls checking voicemail on Ms. Brainard-Bames® cellphone after her disappearance." (DocumentCloud)


Maybe my English is off but does this text state that Heuermann's own cellphone (non-burner) records correspond to the same cell site locations as the burner phones? So cell sites/towers in or near Massapequa and Midtown Manhattan?

Yes. Broadly speaking, he was smart enough to use burners, but not smart enough not to use them in the same locations as his legit phones and the phones of his victims. Though he’s not the first genius criminal to get caught like that.

 

[Pavor Nocturnus]

I don’t think I’m following your breadcrumbs very well. Are you saying RH is innocent? Or just that he didn’t kill Amber Costello?

Interesting user name (“night terrors”), and welcome to websleuths.

I'm more or less saying that Schaller might be lying about something. And I don't think Heuermann is LISK. A more likely suspect is Bittrolff. There's that odd little connection between Rita Tangredi's daughter and Melissa Barthélemy. They were the best of friends.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I'm more or less saying that Schaller might be lying about something. And I don't think Heuermann is LISK. A more likely suspect is Bittrolff. There's that odd little connection between Rita Tangredi's daughter and Melissa Barthélemy. They were the best of friends.

How would you explain away the phone triangulations and the hair/dna on victims?