Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #8

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If this lawyer Macedonia is a former assistant DA who was connected to Spota, I wonder if he is also connected to JB somehow. I don't think the recent arrest of JB is a coincidence. He's likely been frequenting that park for years and only now he's getting arrested? Speculating only.
thats a good point, didnt even think of that.

also slightly off topic and not trying to be crude, but does anyone know if that area is a known dogging or cruising zone ? as you said, i doubt its his first time there and it would be interesting to know if he was a regular on the scene.
 
apologies, had a rough day at work and dont think i articulated that well lol. could his familys lawyer critiquing LE affect the case, as they could maybe argue that it was handled incorrectly/unfairly by LE ?

i agree with you, strange behaviour from the family lawyer.
No. The family and their lawyer aren't party to the investigation, they don't know what has and hasn't been done, or how it has been done.

See: the Moscow case. Prior to the arrest, some of the victim's family members were very angry and outspoken about the investigation. Then when there was an arrest, they walked it ALL back and conceded that they'd not had any idea of the work and the progress that was happening that they weren't privy to.

The family in this case is on the 'other side of the church', if you get my meaning, but they are going to be just as in the dark as we are right now about what evidence LE has (that isn't in the PCA), how they got there, and what they're doing right now. LE are certainly not going to have given them a play-by-play on how they processed their home and why they focused on certain areas. They're mad about their broken house and disrupted lives. They are striking out how they are able to to vent about that. That doesn't mean there is anything behind it other than hurt and frustration.

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No. The family and their lawyer aren't party to the investigation, they don't know what has and hasn't been done, or how it has been done.

See: the Moscow case. Prior to the arrest, some of the victim's family members were very angry and outspoken about the investigation. Then when there was an arrest, they walked it ALL back and conceded that they'd not had any idea of the work and the progress that was happening that they weren't privy to.

The family in this case is on the 'other side of the church', if you get my meaning, but they are going to be just as in the dark as we are right now about what evidence LE has (that isn't in the PCA), how they got there, and what they're doing right now. LE are certainly not going to have given them a play-by-play on how they processed their home and why they focused on certain areas. They're mad about their broken house and disrupted lives. They are striking out how they are able to to vent about that. That doesn't mean there is anything behind it other than hurt and frustration.

MOO
ah, i see what you mean now. thank you for your insight !
 
“They’re having barbecues on the front lawn — they never did anything like that before,” said Etienne de Villiers, 68, a retired New York City firefighter who lives next door. “Suddenly, they’re out there all the time.”

“It’s literally piled floor-to-ceiling with debris,” the lawyer, Vess Mitev, said. “It’s like someone broke in and tore the place apart.”

“Who in their right mind would come back to a house equated with the most horrible thing to ever happen in this town?” one neighbor, Chris Duncan said.

“She knew nothing about any of this,” Mr. Macedonio said in a phone interview. “If it happened, he was leading a complete double life.”

“She hasn’t even begun to process what he’s being charged with,” Mr. Macedonio said. “She’s still putting her own life back together.”

“They’re sitting outside smiling,” Mr. Ray said. “She seems very out of sync with what is really happening.”

“We’re getting a slew of emails from people wanting to help and a slew from other people saying, ‘I hope you burn in hell,’” Mr. Mitev said.

“Some are sympathetic and some say, ‘When can we get this thing out of here?’” he added, regarding the unsightly home. “But there’s no getting it out of here because they have nowhere to go.”

For now, Mr. Mitev added: “They are going to rebuild; they want to fix it up,” He said investigators had violated the family’s rights with what he called their reckless search.

“I really think the best thing for everyone is for them to move on and for the house to be torn down once and for all,” Mr. Ferchaw said while walking his dog near the house on a recent evening as the family barbecued on the front lawn.

“This is all that they’ve known, so there’s no real options,” Mr. Mitev said.
 
I did not *hear* about this situation, I was directly involved in it and it was awful.

I am not discrediting the recent investigation, far from it. I fail to see how these can't be two separate things- Asa and family are facing trauma which included having their cats put in a shelter where they could not immediately track them down, a shelter that does euthanize animals, and LE and detectives needed to search and open up every inch of the house.

All these "I'm sure the cats were fine" posts are in retrospect. The family did not know that at the time and there are *many* real life stories of pets being harmed in the midst of procedures and investigations. It happens and I was a first-hand witness to this. Police are not infallible (um, hello look at all of the people who were in charge before this latest task force).

I understand that lack of more details and evidence being forthcoming these past few weeks creates a vacuum but why fill it with attacking an innocent family and denying the obvious trauma they are experiencing? Nobody is helping get justice for the LISK victims and their families by going after the suspect's family. That's not how justice works.

Well said.
 
absolutely.

im not trying to insinuate that the family of rex are animal abusers, i dont believe they are. but if they are hoarders, then the animals may not have been treated properly as its unfortunately quite common for extreme hoarders to neglect their pets as well as their property.
Where were the 3 cats and 1 dog, when the family (except Rex) was on vacation at Island every year for 2 weeks, I would like to know. Did RH care for them all during his busy schedule with SW? Was that his excuse for not having to go with the family: caring for the pets?
 
Where were the 3 cats and 1 dog, when the family (except Rex) was on vacation at Island every year for 2 weeks, I would like to know. Did RH care for them all during his busy schedule with SW? Was that his excuse for not having to go with the family: caring for the pets?
The dog is a puppy, the cats would all be very elderly if they were alive and part of their family during the GB4 killings. It has been almost thirteen years since they were FOUND. And Maureen had been on the beach for three and a half years by then.

I have had cats who lived to 18-20, so it's not impossible, but the cat I saw in the live trap was, IMO, probably not anywhere near that elderly.

However, if you're purely talking about his actions in recent years, then possibly, but he seems to spend a bunch of time doing this stuff when there's no apparent holidays going on whatsoever. He seems to be constantly trawling for some kind of extramarital action. Would someone who's not reliably home for dinner be a plausible reliable pet carer? I wouldn't believe he could be trusted. But then, I have trust issues.

MOO
 
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This was not the time to pussyfoot around, imo,
July 18, 2023
''The suspect in the Gilgo Beach serial killings had a cache of more than 200 guns in a vault inside his home, the Suffolk County, New York, police commissioner said.''

"He had an arsenal in a vault that he had downstairs," he said.

"Any time somebody has that type of arsenal, we have some concerns," Harrison added.''

"We wanted to take him into custody somewhere outside the house, because of access to those weapons," he said.''

Exactly! They had to pounce far away from the munitions cache and do it before someone let the cat out of the bag....more people involved in the investigation were becoming aware and they had to get it done before a possible leak occurred.
 
The dog is a puppy, the cats would all be very elderly if they were alive and part of their family during the GB4 killings. It has been almost thirteen years since they were FOUND. And Maureen had been on the beach for three and a half years by then.

I have had cats who lived to 18-20, so it's not impossible, but the cat I saw in the live trap was, IMO, probably not anywhere near that elderly.

MOO
Oh, I'm again and again forgetting the time span re the Gilgo4! But there were more vacations and more killings perhaps, so we will see, if they had always several pets during the many years.
 
Yeah, Suffolk LE is seemingly either beyond reproach or beyond redemption, depending on the topic at hand.
As an outsider, I must confess I think I am seeing a massive struggle between Good and Evil being played out with the Jimmy Burke squad still having a surprising number of followers.
 
thats a good point, didnt even think of that.

also slightly off topic and not trying to be crude, but does anyone know if that area is a known dogging or cruising zone ? as you said, i doubt its his first time there and it would be interesting to know if he was a regular on the scene.


The park police said they had a number of quality of life complaints, which prompted the sting.

It is an easy access park by car. Like several park and ride locations, it was a known pick up/cruise place.

MOO
 
i agree. i tend to be very sceptical of LE to say the very least lol, but it would be necessary for them to move the cats, for their safety, for the cats safety, and because they could further contaminate the scene.

i havent fully read what he said word for word, but implying that LE arent doing their jobs etc could maybe be used by RHs defence ? if rex was innocent, then that would be understandable but considering that he almost definitely is LISK, it needs to be a watertight case for the safety of literally everyone in NY. could this affect the case ?

I'm certain it will be used by the defense. They will try to claim reasonable doubt by saying the investigation was bungled from the start and too narrowly focused on Rex. The hope for the defense is the public, particularly the jury, will think to themselves, "Yeah, what did they do besides shake up that house like a snow globe?"

I don't think it will work, because it appears from the bail documents that the evidence is very strong.

In addition, I think if LE messes up, it messes up. And should take responsibility. If they didn't have a warrant, for example, the evidence should be thrown out. And that would weaken the case, sadly, but it would hold LE responsible for using power appropriately, which is very important.

But in this case, the family's lawyer seems to be discrediting the investigation untruthfully. And IMO, creating hostility towards the family, by excluding even mention of the murdered victims in their statements. Is it fair that a family member, with so much thrown on them at once, simply isn't able to stretch themselves to concern about the murdered yet? Yes.

But the one advantage of having a lawyer is they are your mouth piece. And if you are at the point where you intellectually know you are more fortunate than the murdered, but emotionally in the place where you need to focus on self care... what should the lawyer say?

That your focusing on yourself? And make the community angry? Or express the grief you (know you soon will) feel with the families of the murder victims? And put your better face forward while you process all that you have learned?

Even without the criminal and corrupt history of this lawyer, and even without his ties to Spota, a LISK investigation interferer, thus attorney should be fired IMO, just for portraying Asa rather negatively.

BTW, I do not think he is as he is because he is a lawyer. Lawyers are not typically dishonest, amoral, criminal or incompetent. This one is.

MOO
 
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The dog is a puppy, the cats would all be very elderly if they were alive and part of their family during the GB4 killings. It has been almost thirteen years since they were FOUND. And Maureen had been on the beach for three and a half years by then.

I have had cats who lived to 18-20, so it's not impossible, but the cat I saw in the live trap was, IMO, probably not anywhere near that elderly.

However, if you're purely talking about his actions in recent years, then possibly, but he seems to spend a bunch of time doing this stuff when there's no apparent holidays going on whatsoever. He seems to be constantly trawling for some kind of extramarital action. Would someone who's not reliably home for dinner be a plausible reliable pet carer? I wouldn't believe he could be trusted. But then, I have trust issues.

MOO
It's not a trust issue if you don't trust Rex Heuermann, lol.

MOO
 
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Sorry, I’ve not been able to follow closely in the last month.
Can anyone say if any Rental Properties ( apartments) have been linked to or associated with RH.
A short term apartment rental would be hard to trace if he paid cash. I believe it is likely that he did have locations other than hotels or his home where he could have privacy.
 
Yeah, Suffolk LE is seemingly either beyond reproach or beyond redemption, depending on the topic at hand.

No. Suffolk LE is either executing its duties appropriately or inappropriately, depending on their behavior being discussed. I haven't seen any posts indicating the belief that they are, "Beyond reproach," or "Beyond redemption."

MOO
 
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