Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #9

[Baby baby Jane]

Oh, that's an interesting thought. What would he be using her for though? And then there's the streaming crew arriving to film something. She must be saying something -- with the implication being for money. The attorney is well aware of that taking place, so it seems he's not against her saying something under the right condition$. MOO.

Edited to add: I think it would have went a long way to hear her condemn the actions of the LISK and offer sympathy toward the murdered women, regardless of whether she thinks her man is involved. MOO.

What do we always hear from the True Crime experts & lawyers - regardless if innocent or guilty.
Say Nothing, ever.

 

[Betty P]

What do we always hear from the True Crime experts & lawyers - regardless if innocent or guilty.
Say Nothing, ever.

It's possible, and I'm just guessing, that results of testing all the evidence gathered from the home and storage lockers, etc. didn't turn up anything suspicious about her. Still, it seems unusual for someone close to the killer to talk publicly about the murders. Maybe her attorney is going to limit the subjects she discusses. JMO

 

[Betty P]

She may want to address the swingers thing. *If* it isnt true its rather upsetting and unfair.

It could also be about the DNA. I’m assuming, perhaps incorrectly, they have mitochondrial DNA from her. Which is roughly 1000x more abundant than nuclear DNA and therefore easier to detect.

Two of the 3 hairs from Megan Waterman yielded mitochondrial DNA. One matched to Rex, the other to his wife.

“Now, we go back and we perform that analysis. Two out of the three hairs on Megan Waterman. One, the mitochondrial DNA profile obtained from that hair matches the defendant. One other DNA profile on that hair matches his wife, such that over 99 percent of the rest of the population can be excluded,” he claimes.

Heuermann (Tierney?) also says the hair found on Amber Costello “matched the wife,” as well.

Hairs Found on Victims' Bodies Were Crucial Evidence Against Long Island Serial Killer Suspect: Prosecutor

Rex Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect who worked in Manhattan, is suspected of killing at least three women more than a decade ago

people.com

JMO, matching the hair/mitochondrial DNA combined with Heuermann's burner phones, plus the witness description of his car and appearance makes a very solid case.

 

[NyxNY]

So Rex is due back in court tomorrow. What will we learn about at this hearing? More discovery?

 

[snarast]

Two of the 3 hairs from Megan Waterman yielded mitochondrial DNA. One matched to Rex, the other to his wife.

Hairs Found on Victims' Bodies Were Crucial Evidence Against Long Island Serial Killer Suspect: Prosecutor

Rex Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect who worked in Manhattan, is suspected of killing at least three women more than a decade ago

people.com

JMO, matching the hair/mitochondrial DNA combined with Heuermann's burner phones, plus the witness description of his car and appearance makes a very solid case.

Well. this quote from the People article makes me wonder how they can be so sure the mtDNA isn’t from her offspring.

”One other DNA profile on that hair matches his wife, such that over 99 percent of the rest of the population can be excluded,” he claimes.”

But I guess LE has tested that surely.

And please, no offense to the children but it’s just a matter of fact that the mtDNA is plentiful but repeated so they probably have to be excluded specifically by sequecing their mtDNA in order to draw the conclusion that the source is AE

 

[Inthedetails]

Well. this quote from the People article makes me wonder how they can be so sure the mtDNA isn’t from her offspring.

”One other DNA profile on that hair matches his wife, such that over 99 percent of the rest of the population can be excluded,” he claimes.”

But I guess LE has tested that surely.

And please, no offense to the children but it’s just a matter of fact that the mtDNA is plentiful but repeated so they probably have to be excluded specifically by sequecing their mtDNA in order to draw the conclusion that the source is AE

Maybe LE did that but it wasn't pertinent to the documents to arrest and charge him. Not every detail makes it into the warrants, affidavits, etc. Perhaps it will come out in court. Just a thought.

jmo

 

[snarast]

Maybe LE did that but it wasn't pertinent to the documents to arrest and charge him. Not every detail makes it into the warrants, affidavits, etc. Perhaps it will come out in court. Just a thought.

jmo

Very likely. And besides - it doesnt matter for the guilt of RH. Transfer from his family regardless.

And since the Icelandic population might be the best characterized in the world when it comes to genomics, the resolution there might account for LEs ability to discern that the mtDNA is from AE rather than her offspring.

RH = Most Recognizable Player

 

[Betty P]

Well. this quote from the People article makes me wonder how they can be so sure the mtDNA isn’t from her offspring.

”One other DNA profile on that hair matches his wife, such that over 99 percent of the rest of the population can be excluded,” he claimes.”

But I guess LE has tested that surely.

And please, no offense to the children but it’s just a matter of fact that the mtDNA is plentiful but repeated so they probably have to be excluded specifically by sequecing their mtDNA in order to draw the conclusion that the source is AE

I'm not an expert, but if it were from her daughter, it wouldn't make much difference. Rex is the one who has been accused of these murders. Having his mitochondrial DNA is helpful, but having a second hair with DNA like his wife's, puts DNA evidence from two people living in the same household on the victims remains.

 

[snarast]

I'm not an expert, but if it were from her daughter, it wouldn't make much difference. Rex is the one who has been accused of these murders. Having his mitochondrial DNA is helpful, but having a second hair with DNA like his wife's, puts DNA evidence from two people living in the same household on the victims remains.

Her daughter or her son. Everybody has mitochondria and all mitochondria are inherited from the mother.

 

[Inthedetails]

I'm not an expert, but if it were from her daughter, it wouldn't make much difference. Rex is the one who has been accused of these murders. Having his mitochondrial DNA is helpful, but having a second hair with DNA like his wife's, puts DNA evidence from two people living in the same household on the victims remains.

Good point. Hair from the wife connects the victim with the household, even if it's not the killer's hair.

 

[Just K]

Yes, it sure seems like she's backing him.

Just his disgusting computer searches would be horrible enough not to ever have contact with him again.

 

[Just K]

So Rex is due back in court tomorrow. What will we learn about at this hearing? More discovery?

Let’s hope so.

 

[sds71]

Asa Ellerup, the estranged wife of alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann, will attend his court appearance for the first time Wednesday, her attorney told Newsday.

Bob Macedonio said his client, who filed for divorce from Heuermann in July, intends to be present for the criminal case moving forward. She will be accompanied by her attorney ans his associate and will not make any public statements, Macedonio said.

“She wants to see and hear the evidence that's presented in court,” Macedonio said. “The only thing she knows about this case is what’s been reported in the media … If this happened, he was living a complete double life.”

Heuermann, 60, of Massapequa Park, is expected to make a brief appearance before State Supreme Court Justice Timothy Mazzei at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday. Court officials said a conference will be held with attorneys in the judge’s chambers and no hearings will be held.

Mazzei is also expected to rule on pending requests from various media outlets to record the proceedings, court spokesperson Timothy Finnerty said.

Gilgo Beach killings: Asa Ellerup, estranged wife of alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann, to attend his court hearing on Wednesday, lawyer says

"She wants to see and hear the evidence that's presented in court," attorney Robert Macedonio said. "The only thing she knows about this case is what's been reported in the media ... ."

www.newsday.com

 

[Ruminations]

Oh, that's an interesting thought. What would he be using her for though? And then there's the streaming crew arriving to film something. She must be saying something -- with the implication being for money. The attorney is well aware of that taking place, so it seems he's not against her saying something under the right condition$. MOO.

Edited to add: I think it would have went a long way to hear her condemn the actions of the LISK and offer sympathy toward the murdered women, regardless of whether she thinks her man is involved. MOO.

Using her to get information on Rex's defense, to pull every manipulation possible to keep her from testifying against Rex, to move assets from Rex's victims and to Rex's family, and ultimately Rex himself, even if it only buys a slightly more comfortable incarceration.

Macedonio has already made it clear, to Rex's significant advantage, that Asa has no interest in being a cooperative witness.

Macedonio has not done or advised what you suggested (and with which I very much agree), which is to express sympathy for the survivors of the murder victims. it would help her. But if Macedonio is whipping her into fear of her own legal danger in doing so, that seems to me to harm Asa and help Rex, because her potent contribution to humanizing the victims is averted.

Macedonio spent a lot of time damaging the reputation of LE by holding up Asa as their victim, helping Rex and IMO harming Asa by holding her inconveniences out in front of children who had to grow up without mothers.

Macedonio repeated on Asa's behalf that she would have nothin useful to say to the police, which helps Rex with this logic: The house is small, he couldn't hide all that from her, but she has nothing useful to say, so it can't be him.

(Yet, he has warned her against self incrimination, which sounds like a contradiction; if she knows enough to be complicit herself, she has useful information)

Macedonio had the house photographed, in theory to document what is common practice in evidence search, for some dead-end lawsuit against LE. ( And am I right that the names LE is the FBI? The meddlers who locked up Spota &co.?) But perhaps he has some tricks to get them to Rex, so he can try to evaluate if certain hiding places have been discovered. This is just a theory of mine.

Macedonio got his license back after serious money laundering and bribing charges. It's hard to trust him. But his background ignored, his actions just don't seem to benefit Asa, but do have potential to benefit Rex.

MOO

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Asa Ellerup, the estranged wife of alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann, will attend his court appearance for the first time Wednesday, her attorney told Newsday.

Bob Macedonio said his client, who filed for divorce from Heuermann in July, intends to be present for the criminal case moving forward. She will be accompanied by her attorney ans his associate and will not make any public statements, Macedonio said.

“She wants to see and hear the evidence that's presented in court,” Macedonio said. “The only thing she knows about this case is what’s been reported in the media … If this happened, he was living a complete double life.”

Heuermann, 60, of Massapequa Park, is expected to make a brief appearance before State Supreme Court Justice Timothy Mazzei at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday. Court officials said a conference will be held with attorneys in the judge’s chambers and no hearings will be held.

Mazzei is also expected to rule on pending requests from various media outlets to record the proceedings, court spokesperson Timothy Finnerty said.

Gilgo Beach killings: Asa Ellerup, estranged wife of alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann, to attend his court hearing on Wednesday, lawyer says

"She wants to see and hear the evidence that's presented in court," attorney Robert Macedonio said. "The only thing she knows about this case is what's been reported in the media ... ."

www.newsday.com

In a similar vein, there are many parents whose kids are using drugs at home and parents say they didn’t know — it’s called denial. I’m not judging and I’m not sleuthing a potential victim. It’s human nature to not want to see situations that are painful, frightening, or overwhelming. It can be difficult to take action, especially if there is intimidation. OMO.

Obviously, I have no idea if there is a level of involvement here and don’t know if denial is a factor. Just musing.

 

[sds71]

Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann has signed over his run-down family home, worth $530,000, to his soon-to-be ex-wife for $0.

Gilgo Beach murders suspect Rex Heuermann signs over home to ex-wife

Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann has signed over his run-down family home, worth $530,000, to his soon-to-be ex-wife for $0.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Just K]

Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann has signed over his run-down family home, worth $530,000, to his soon-to-be ex-wife for $0.

Gilgo Beach murders suspect Rex Heuermann signs over home to ex-wife

Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann has signed over his run-down family home, worth $530,000, to his soon-to-be ex-wife for $0.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Many times when a spouse is charged with a serious crime, the defendant signs over their property to a spouse or partners to protect their assets. The money, etc, stays in the family- so to speak and is protected from seizure. It happens far too often. That may be the case, here.

 

[sds71]

Estranged wife of accused #Gilgo killer #RexHeuermann arrives at court hearing for first time since husband’s arrest in July. Reports say #Asa Ellerup made deal with a major streaming service to participate in documentary.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724792619488911735

 

[Inthedetails]

 

[Betty P]

I hope there are many family members of the victims there. I hope they're feeling some relief that justice is on its way. Questions will be answered. Bless them.