Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[waldojabba]

Yes, ironic and based on truth. Pretty creepy when you think about it. This want to know about his Jones Beach time is my continuing search to know how much he knew about the environment he was growing up in. Some kids are out all day, exploring every inch, barely going home at night. Did Rex and his buddies do that? How well does he know the area?

I would go on the assumption that he knows the area very well - he worked there in the summers - it's daylight savings time -lots of time to be out and about - he is a life long resident. He mentioned in the deposition that he could no longer ride his bike with his bad shoulder. DId he grow up like many riding his bike places vs having a parent take him everywhere like is common now.

We don't have a lot of information to go on though. We have one schoolmate who says he was a momma's boy or along those lines. That Rex had to get home from school to his mother. True or not true who knows. My thought was that with a dead husband and at least four kids ( Rex, younger bro in SC and "sisters" as per his deposition in the law suit) - the mother probably had to have some type of job outside the house. There might of been a whole lot of very unstructured unsupervised time for a boy in his growing up teenage years.

We do know that Rex says he learned to build furniture from his Dad in the workshop. His Dad died when he was 11. I wonder what else he learned from his father during workshop time.

Nature nurture environment ? What makes Rex tick? I think we are just beginning to see nuggets here and there but we are far off yet fom seeing the bigger picture if we ever are able to see it at all.

JMO

 

[Emilie D]

Taking money from his victims?

I didn’t hear that they were carrying very much on them. I’m not sure (even if there are victims we don’t know about) that it would be enough to fund his proclivities and his office. Plus trips to Iceland.

 

[Puzzles8]

If a vault is really think, as someone said 2 feet walls of concrete wouldn’t it be soundproof? With an huge vault door? Scarey to me 12x15 size? Any gun collectors? My friend (deceased) was a gun smith and had a shop. He had nothing like a room like that. It was by his home and just all security bells and whistles.

Referring to the strongly reinforced vault room in RH's basement. It may have been built by his parents for a different purpose.

RH grew up in that home which meant it had been in his family for many years. It was not totally uncommon during the 'Cold War' years to build a reinforced 'Fallout Room' in your home, basement or yard. It was built in case a nuclear bomb was dropped so your family would have a temporary place to be safe from the immediate effects of the radiation. IMO, they were most popular on the East Coast.

While I think it is quite possible RH repurposed this room for his own nefarious use, I do think it might have been originally built by his parents for that purpose.

Digging Up the History of the Nuclear Fallout Shelter

JMO

 

[SonsOfCain]

I just had a thought:

What if he has a safe deposit box somewhere? Bank employees are not allowed to see what a customer keeps in their safe deposit box. Only the person who rents/owns the box can. And they have to go to private rooms that don’t even have cameras in them when they want to visit the safe deposit box. Is it possible he could have some trophies hidden in one?

Source: I work at a financial institution and they are very strict about us employees making sure the customer goes to a private room before they open up their box, even if they just need to for a second to put something else in it.

 

[Emilie D]

I just had a thought:

What if he has a safe deposit box somewhere? Bank employees are not allowed to see what a customer keeps in their safe deposit box. Only the person who rents/owns the box can. And they have to go to private rooms that don’t even have cameras in them when they want to visit the safe deposit box. Is it possible he could have some trophies hidden in one?

Source: I work at a financial institution and they are very strict about us employees making sure the customer goes to a private room before they open up their box, even if they just need to for a second to put something else in it.

I can second this. As a teller, they used to tell us to turn our backs and not peek at what’s in the box. Banks do not want their employees seeing something they shouldn’t.

 

[Friday13]

I just had a thought:

What if he has a safe deposit box somewhere? Bank employees are not allowed to see what a customer keeps in their safe deposit box. Only the person who rents/owns the box can. And they have to go to private rooms that don’t even have cameras in them when they want to visit the safe deposit box. Is it possible he could have some trophies hidden in one?

Source: I work at a financial institution and they are very strict about us employees making sure the customer goes to a private room before they open up their box, even if they just need to for a second to put something else in it.

You bring up an interesting, and very possible, idea.

 

[Friday13]

I can second this. As a teller, they used to tell us to turn our backs and not peek at what’s in the box. Banks do not want their employees seeing something they shouldn’t.

I’m sure they want to keep the integrity of the institution and respect the customers privacy as well

 

[SonsOfCain]

I can second this. As a teller, they used to tell us to turn our backs and not peek at what’s in the box. Banks do not want their employees seeing something they shouldn’t.

That, and a safe deposit box key would be pretty easy to hide. Even if someone in the family found it on accident, he could very well lie and tell them it’s a key from his job. They wouldn’t be any the wiser.

 

[Emilie D]

That, and a safe deposit box key would be pretty easy to hide. Even if someone in the family found it on accident, he could very well lie and tell them it’s a key from his job. They wouldn’t be any the wiser.

Right but if the police came across one, I’m sure they would hunt the location down. I also think banks are under no obligation to protect the ownership of safe deposit boxes. I believe they can report their existence to authorities who can then get a subpoena to search.

 

[Sundog]

Her response is so unusual. No shock. “It is what it is”

Sounds like a down to earth person, pragmatic, and accepting of reality.
I admire her.

 

[Puzzles8]

I just had a thought:

What if he has a safe deposit box somewhere? Bank employees are not allowed to see what a customer keeps in their safe deposit box. Only the person who rents/owns the box can. And they have to go to private rooms that don’t even have cameras in them when they want to visit the safe deposit box. Is it possible he could have some trophies hidden in one?

Source: I work at a financial institution and they are very strict about us employees making sure the customer goes to a private room before they open up their box, even if they just need to for a second to put something else in it.

I agree, Banks go to great lengths to keep the contents of your Safe Deposit Box confidential.

But Banks will not give you a Safe Deposit Box without a Social Security Number.
This would be easily traced back to RH.

JMO

 

[dotr]

'jul 24, 2023
With helicopters buzzing overhead, Suffolk Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison on Monday said ground-penetrating radar was being used in a backyard dig at the Long Island home of Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect Rex Heuermann.'

'Jul 24, 2023
Rex Heuermann’s sister-in-law Dr. Johanna Ellerup told NBC News she’s stunned by his arrest. “My ego has great difficulty processing the idea that I looked Rex in the eye and was unable to discern any murderous intentions.” Meanwhile, cops used a backhoe to dig up the yard of Heuermann’s home in Massapequa Park, Long Island. They also removed a greenhouse and deck, and scanned the yard with ground penetrating radar. Heuermann has pleaded not guilty. Les Trent has more.'

 

[Emilie D]

I agree, Banks go to great lengths to keep the contents of your Safe Deposit Box confidential.

But Banks will not give you a Safe Deposit Box without a Social Security Number.
This would be easily traced back to RH.

JMO

Just to add from experience, employees of banks sometimes (me, ok, it’s me) look up murderers in the system when they are caught to see if they are customers. If so, I’d imagine that they could then contact authorities with that information.

 

[LadyL]

Agree. It was spoken, not written, but I didn't hear that characterization as a direct quote...I heard a discription of her absorption of info. If I got news like that, I'd probably believe it, but simultaneously find it unbelievable. I'd say something to express my intention to act on the words I'm being told, rather than what I feel is possible. 'It is what it is,' expresses that.

MOO

Edited to add: several posters have found it printed and the statement is in quotes. It remains possible it was not a literal quote. But the articles were written such that the phrase was an exact quote. So- perhaps my assumption was wrong. Dang it, assuming usually ends poorly. I should know better.

MOO

I saw the video. He did say that she said it.

 

[LadyL]

Yes, ironic and based on truth. Pretty creepy when you think about it. This want to know about his Jones Beach time is my continuing search to know how much he knew about the environment he was growing up in. Some kids are out all day, exploring every inch, barely going home at night. Did Rex and his buddies do that? How well does he know the area?

Did he have buddies?

 

[MyBelle]

I have doubts they will find a lot in his home. If I read the dates correct the last murder was in 2010. I haven't seen any thing that reports they were bloody murders. It sounds like he frequently had contact with prostitutes - after the murder dates and I would assume before. I assume that the most important evidence will be trophies and news reports. There was a report that he was burning his garbage, probably because he new he was a possible suspect. He seems in control enough that he would have cleared out much of the evidence in 10+ years.

BTK had a ton of evidence in his home. He liked to take photos of his victims and his crimes spanned decades.

LE has spent days in RH's house. That alone indicates to me they have found a LOT of evidence.

JMO

 

[TKG]

Exactly. Still far from the whole family being impoverished.

The grocery store reported they came in several times a week (two kids and AE) for over 20 years and would pay often with food stamps. The point isn't their wealth or lack thereof, it's the controlling behaviors he displayed. He may well have paid for their vacations so he had time alone. I also would not say having to use food stamps indicates wealth.

This is about the "family" being deprived of anything RH did not see value in. He sued numerous people after alleged "accidents" and owed hundreds of thousands of dollars to the IRS. He clearly paid for what HE wanted. He found great value in depriving others and in seeing them suffer.

ETA: Grocery store context

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Sounds like a down to earth person, pragmatic, and accepting of reality.
I admire her.

Also sounds like a beaten down person who has learned that resisting reality is pointless.

JMO.

 

[Detective Willy]

Pardon the pun but I think "the more they dig - the more they will find" with this guy.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Like with Richard Allen (Delphi murder suspect), people said the same thing; but like RA, RH also has a wife and children who, as far as we know, deserve to have some of the equity (if any) from the home.

I think the OP meant after it's sold, raze it and put a park or something there.