Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Betty P]

Thank you, much appreciated.
And I posted the Bail Document to boot,,,DUH!..LOL!

Yep, the prosecution listed the evidence for each victim in that document, including Rex's burner cell phone locations, time of call to victim, etc. JMO, that's sufficient for a conviction.

Defense teams will always say things in the news media to make it seem the prosecution is lying, doesn't have enough evidence, is hiding exculpatory evidence, etc, etc. That's a typical defense strategy.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Yep, the prosecution listed the evidence for each victim in that document, including Rex's burner cell phone locations, time of call to victim, etc. JMO, that's sufficient for a conviction.

Defense teams will always say things in the news media to make it seem the prosecution is lying, doesn't have enough evidence, is hiding exculpatory evidence, etc, etc. That's a typical defense strategy.

BBM

IMO:
It's the strategy Asa is shooting for too.
Funny how everyone with a search engine has access to the Bail Document evidence but her, eh?

Nov.15,2023

“The only thing she knows about this case is what has been reported in the media and what has been told to her by the police the night he was arrested. She wants to see it played out in the courtroom — not from the media, not from the podcasts and certainly not Johnny Ray,” Macedonia said.

Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann in court, wife attends

The wife of the Gilgo Beach suspect will be present for legal proceedings for the first time since her husband’s arrest.

www.newsnationnow.com

 

[Betty P]

BBM

IMO:
It's the strategy Asa is shooting for too.
Funny how everyone with a search engine has access to the Bail Document evidence but her, eh?

Nov.15,2023

“The only thing she knows about this case is what has been reported in the media and what has been told to her by the police the night he was arrested. She wants to see it played out in the courtroom — not from the media, not from the podcasts and certainly not Johnny Ray,” Macedonia said.

Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann in court, wife attends

The wife of the Gilgo Beach suspect will be present for legal proceedings for the first time since her husband’s arrest.

www.newsnationnow.com

Playing naive, JMO. She's smart enough to understand the evidence. All she has to do is read the bail document for the whole story.

 

[Izzylizzy]

The odds of winning the lottery are about one in 3 million.

OOPS!
"Recently, it became possible to generate DNA sequencing for the strand of hair and make a DNA comparison with Ellerup.

The comparison revealed that the strand of hair on Brainard-Barnes’s restraints is “7.9 trillion times more likely to have come from a person genetically identical” to Ellerup than from an unrelated individual, said court documents.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/01/16/gilgo-beach-murder-rex-heuermann-fourth-victim/

 

[Izzylizzy]

Playing naive, JMO. She's smart enough to understand the evidence. All she has to do is read the bail document for the whole story.

Yep!

IMO:
It's obvious that if she wasn't playing stupid to the truth there would be no 1.8 million Peacock windfall for her and her kids.

 

[Izzylizzy]

The odds of winning the lottery are about one in 3 million.

OOPS!
"Recently, it became possible to generate DNA sequencing for the strand of hair and make a DNA comparison with Ellerup.

The comparison revealed that the strand of hair on Brainard-Barnes’s restraints is “7.9 trillion times more likely to have come from a person genetically identical” to Ellerup than from an unrelated individual, said court documents.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/01/16/gilgo-beach-murder-rex-heuermann-fourth-victim/

Bob Macedonio must think that Asa could have an identical twin sister hiding out somewhere./s

DNA from wife of suspected Gilgo Beach killer found on ...​

New York Daily News
https://www.nydailynews.com › 2023/11/30 › gilgo-be...



Nov 30, 2023 — The district attorney had no comment on the report. Macedonio said if the hair does indeed belong to Ellerup it was “obviously transferred.”.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Yep!

IMO:
It's obvious that if she wasn't playing stupid to the truth there would be no 1.8 million Peacock windfall for her and her kids.

Not to mention her thoughts on what they're actually paying her for! Why would Peacock pay her anything if not for her attachment to (an alleged) serial killer husband?!?! She'd have zero relevance in life otherwise. A nobody that became a somebody because of every body that was slaughtered. MOO.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Not to mention her thoughts on what they're actually paying her for! Why would Peacock pay her anything if not for her attachment to (an alleged) serial killer husband?!?! She'd have zero relevance in life otherwise. A nobody that became a somebody because of every body that was slaughtered. MOO.

Slam dunk^^^^^^^^^^

IMO:
Asa should no longer be considered a victim of her husband but an ally.
They are acting together and protecting one another.

 

[snooptroop88]

Bob Macedonio must think that Asa could have an identical twin sister hiding out somewhere./s

DNA from wife of suspected Gilgo Beach killer found on ...​

New York Daily News
https://www.nydailynews.com › 2023/11/30 › gilgo-be...



Nov 30, 2023 — The district attorney had no comment on the report. Macedonio said if the hair does indeed belong to Ellerup it was “obviously transferred.”

Seriously, though, I do "think" it probably is transferred. I think he used the vehicle extensively in these murders (like really extensively) and the wife's and daughter's hairs were probably on the headrest. Probably the son usually sat in back, plus his hair obviously not as long. Just a guess, though, and finding it increasingly hard to stay with it in light of all the Peacock hoopla, and other things.

Not to mention her thoughts on what they're actually paying her for! Why would Peacock pay her anything if not for her attachment to (an alleged) serial killer husband?!?! She'd have zero relevance in life otherwise. A nobody that became a somebody because of every body that was slaughtered. MOO.

Agreed. Yuck, seriously. Agreed she can't do something like waitressing, retail work, not in this situation. But surely there had to be something more suitable for her than this. Just the fact alone she doesn't see how this is "a problem" is worrisome. Even a book wouldn't have been as bad. Here's my concern: What is going on with this woman that she can't see how bad this is? Never mind how bad it looks. How bad it is. Had she not done the protesting of the guns and had she expressed genuine sorrow for the victims from the beginning, I'd be a lot, lot more sympathetic. I don't think this looks bad. I think it just plain is bad.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Seriously, though, I do "think" it probably is transferred. I think he used the vehicle extensively in these murders (like really extensively) and the wife's and daughter's hairs were probably on the headrest. Probably the son usually sat in back, plus his hair obviously not as long. Just a guess, though, and finding it increasingly hard to stay with it in light of all the Peacock hoopla, and other things.

Agreed. Yuck, seriously. Agreed she can't do something like waitressing, retail work, not in this situation. But surely there had to be something more suitable for her than this. Just the fact alone she doesn't see how this is "a problem" is worrisome. Even a book wouldn't have been as bad. Here's my concern: What is going on with this woman that she can't see how bad this is? Never mind how bad it looks. How bad it is. Had she not done the protesting of the guns and had she expressed genuine sorrow for the victims from the beginning, I'd be a lot, lot more sympathetic. I don't think this looks bad. I think it just plain is bad.

BBM:
"I don't think this looks bad. I think it just plain is bad."

IMO: Nowhere as bad as it's gonna get.

 

[Betty P]

Seriously, though, I do "think" it probably is transferred. I think he used the vehicle extensively in these murders (like really extensively) and the wife's and daughter's hairs were probably on the headrest. Probably the son usually sat in back, plus his hair obviously not as long. Just a guess, though, and finding it increasingly hard to stay with it in light of all the Peacock hoopla, and other things.

Agreed. Yuck, seriously. Agreed she can't do something like waitressing, retail work, not in this situation. But surely there had to be something more suitable for her than this. Just the fact alone she doesn't see how this is "a problem" is worrisome. Even a book wouldn't have been as bad. Here's my concern: What is going on with this woman that she can't see how bad this is? Never mind how bad it looks. How bad it is. Had she not done the protesting of the guns and had she expressed genuine sorrow for the victims from the beginning, I'd be a lot, lot more sympathetic. I don't think this looks bad. I think it just plain is bad.

I think she feels like he’s never been a danger to her or her kids, so that’s all that matters. She appears to feel sort of invincible, like nothing bad will happen to her, she’s Teflon.

Maybe she’s secretly glad to be rid of him, but will never admit it to anyone. In some ways she and Rex have similar personalities - arrogant, anti social, narcissistic, etc. She’s financially secure now, so she doesn’t need him. She’s just going to play the game with the media now to cash in on his notoriety.

 

[Izzylizzy]

The belt.
WH

I assume that it's been reported and discussed here that Rex's paternal grandfather was William G. Heuermann?

His Newsday obituary from March 4,1964.

I don't know if posting his obituary is against rules?
It's available online,

Belt

Suffolk Cops Release New Pics of Belt in Giglo Beach Probe

Suffolk County police released Monday two new images of a belt recovered 10 years ago this month in the Gilgo Beach serial murder investigation.

www.longislandpress.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

The belt.
WH

I assume that it's been reported and discussed here that Rex's paternal grandfather was William G. Heuermann?

His Newsday obituary from March 4,1964.

I don't know if posting his obituary is against rules?
It's available online,

Belt

Suffolk Cops Release New Pics of Belt in Giglo Beach Probe

Suffolk County police released Monday two new images of a belt recovered 10 years ago this month in the Gilgo Beach serial murder investigation.

www.longislandpress.com

Was the WH/HW belt the only one with a buckle?​

'Trove of new evidence released in Long Island serial killer ...​

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Jan 16, 2024 — ... from hair found on the buckle of the belt that secured Brainard-Barnes' body. That hair matched the genetic profile of Heuermann's wife.

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[Ruminations]

Slam dunk^^^^^^^^^^

IMO:
Asa should no longer be considered a victim of her husband but an ally.
They are acting together and protecting one another.

A witness. There is absolutely no way she is not a witness.

MOo

 

[FromGermany1]

I think she feels like he’s never been a danger to her or her kids, so that’s all that matters. She appears to feel sort of invincible, like nothing bad will happen to her, she’s Teflon.

Maybe she’s secretly glad to be rid of him, but will never admit it to anyone. In some ways she and Rex have similar personalities - arrogant, anti social, narcissistic, etc. She’s financially secure now, so she doesn’t need him. She’s just going to play the game with the media now to cash in on his notoriety.

I believe, AE had very well arranged with her special, unorthodox life with RH. The two seem to have accepted each other's quirks and were obviously both totally immune to other people's opinions. They both had sufficient financial opportunities to indulge in their expensive hobbies (all sorts of SWs respect. Island vacation/Fairs for Comics); nothing to be sorry about super market shopping with welfare vouchers (the official name for it escaped atm). A middle aged woman with 2 adult children, all looking "joyless" to the employee during groceries shopping, would point to a family life, where nothing ever happened - and it happened certainly much more than in many other people's life. MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

The belt.
WH

I assume that it's been reported and discussed here that Rex's paternal grandfather was William G. Heuermann?

His Newsday obituary from March 4,1964.

I don't know if posting his obituary is against rules?
It's available online,

Belt

Suffolk Cops Release New Pics of Belt in Giglo Beach Probe

Suffolk County police released Monday two new images of a belt recovered 10 years ago this month in the Gilgo Beach serial murder investigation.

www.longislandpress.com

Old news, the belt was first made public in 2020 then last summer after RH's arrest with Rex's g'father's name William.
Curious if LE spoke with RH's mother,brother,cousins etc about the belt?
IMO: We'll never know if Asa was familiar with the belt that had her hair on its buckle.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Bob Macedonio must think that Asa could have an identical twin sister hiding out somewhere./s

DNA from wife of suspected Gilgo Beach killer found on ...​

New York Daily News
https://www.nydailynews.com › 2023/11/30 › gilgo-be...



Nov 30, 2023 — The district attorney had no comment on the report. Macedonio said if the hair does indeed belong to Ellerup it was “obviously transferred.”.

I have sat and thought about AH's hair being transferred innocently. I have an extremely active hubs and I do all of the laundry (he doesn't even know how to operate the latest machines hah), as I suspect A would have done in the H household.

I have washed his regular clothing, golf clothing, boat clothing, hats, sneakers, and yes, even belts (the kind made of rope or nylon) and I have never found one of my hairs transferred to any of his belts. Ever, in 20+ years, and I am a little OCD when it comes to laundry.

How might her hair have been transferred to his belt if it came in contact casually with one of her loose head hairs? Why wouldn't it wouldn't have fallen off? Maybe that was a 'special' belt used for RH's activities.

JMO

 

[Ruminations]

Old news, the belt was first made public in 2020 then last summer after RH's arrest with Rex's g'father's name William.
Curious if LE spoke with RH's mother,brother,cousins etc about the belt?
IMO: We'll never know if Asa was familiar with the belt that had her hair on its buckle.

I would find it very unlikely that they did so before his arrest, unless there is a relative that secretly talks to LE. The little I have seen of people like Craig, they would not be forthcoming, but would turn around to Rex and tell him LE was asking.

But in fairness, I know almost nothing about his relatives. The main information I work from is that he traveled to them frequently enough (per depos for the crashing season) and that Craig didn't voluntarily show LE around his property more than very superficially (per my interpretation of media reports when the Avalanche was siezed).

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

I have sat and thought about AH's hair being transferred innocently. I have an extremely active hubs and I do all of the laundry (he doesn't even know how to operate the latest machines hah), as I suspect A would have done in the H household.

I have washed his regular clothing, golf clothing, boat clothing, hats, sneakers, and yes, even belts (the kind made of rope or nylon) and I have never found one of my hairs transferred to any of his belts. Ever, in 20+ years, and I am a little OCD when it comes to laundry.

How might her hair have been transferred to his belt if it came in contact casually with one of her loose head hairs? Why wouldn't it wouldn't have fallen off? Maybe that was a 'special' belt used for RH's activities.

JMO

My thought is, if my hair were found at the crime scene where someone I lived with were accused of committing a crime...

And I had known nothing of the crime...

And I had even once thought that the person I lived with wasn't capable of such a crime...

I sure as Helen of Troy would rethink that impression I had that the person I lived with was not capable. I woukd ask myself, if the person I lived with didn't transfer this hair, then who did? But that's just me.

MOO

 

[Betty P]

My thought is, if my hair were found at the crime scene where someone I lived with were accused of committing a crime...

And I had known nothing of the crime...

And I had even once thought that the person I lived with wasn't capable of such a crime...

I sure as Helen of Troy would rethink that impression I had that the person I lived with was not capable. I woukd ask myself, if the person I lived with didn't transfer this hair, then who did? But that's just me.

MOO

I vacillate on this. It's possible, but, unless someone is a really poor house-keeper who never vacuums or sweeps or cleans things, it seems unusual for their hair to be left on 3 of 4 victims' bodies.