Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[PennyPie7]

Newsday is reporting he’s been charged for two counts of second degree murder — anyone know why it’s second degree? Isn’t there meticulous planning and premeditation to prove otherwise? Or is this only regards to other victims?

MOO

This was answered in the presser. It's a NY State law thing.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I don’t know about you guys, but this is even far more horrific than I was expecting out of today’s announcement. I was thinking maybe RH was responsible for all or most of the victims, maybe not. And that he sexually assaulted, strangled, and dumped like a lot of garden variety SKs. This is a whole other level. A literal horror movie come to life. I’m just reeling.

I agree.

I have a recurring nightmare about a serial killer who does unspeakable things to his victims. It's as if my nightmare has come true.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I told myself the same thing.

I switched devices. That was how far away I got.

MOO

tooooo funny.

 

[PennyPie7]

Curious still, that RH and his attorney keep bringing up Burke as being involved. I have so many questions.
And speaking of JB, has anyone seen hawkshaw lately? I'd love to hear his take on all of the more recent developments here.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I don’t know of the rest of us, here but I’m feeling overwhelmed and less safe knowing that monsters like this walk right beside us. This new information makes it all so real. I always suspected this was the work of one man, at times I thought he might have shared his activities with other sick people but now I’m wondering if didn’t find other perverts, follow their activities, join their online chat rooms maybe even going to places they spoke of. I also think he didn’t stalk only targets but potential patsies.

well...I really wonder if he made money through the darkest levels of the web
We know this type of stuff is out there.

 

[jessr927]

We know that RH & AE were married in 89' and living in the house in 93'
John Ray had said last year, and today he alluded to them, that Craig Heuerman and wife lived in the house with RH-AE for awhile.
I haven't been able to find any online info about Craig being there with wife.
Point being if true and it fits the 1993 timeline it could be Criag's wife's hair.

RH was married to his first wife until I believe 1993 or 1994. The article here states he married her in 1990. He later married AE in 1996.

What to know about Rex Heuermann's ex-wife, Elizabeth Ryan

BEFORE suspected serial killer Rex Heuermann married Asa Ellerup, he tied the knot with Elizabeth Ryan. Heuermann and Ryan married in a church in 1990, but they split shortly after, and he went on …

www.the-sun.com

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Newsday is reporting he’s been charged for two counts of second degree murder — anyone know why it’s second degree? Isn’t there meticulous planning and premeditation to prove otherwise? Or is this only regards to other victims?

MOO

New York state has a very specific definition of first degree. I recall discussing this in another case. I don't remember the specifics, but you can find it by googling.

jmo

 

[B4igo2it]

I have never doubted a person capable to do as RH is alleged to have done; he is a woman's worst nightmare

 

[Deleted member 117884]

well...I really wonder if he made money through the darkest levels pm the web

I am very concerned he put photos and/or videos on the dark web or distributed them in another way. It's stomach churning, tbh.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Newsday is reporting he’s been charged for two counts of second degree murder — anyone know why it’s second degree? Isn’t there meticulous planning and premeditation to prove otherwise? Or is this only regards to other victims?

MOO

It has something to do with how far back those murders occurred. Apparently, there's a NY law that states you can't charge for 1st degree murder after a certain period of time (or something like that). At least, that's what I took away from Tierney's statements.

ETA: I have never ever heard of a law like that, so I am just going to have to take Tierney's word on it, because my mind might give way if I try to research anything else today.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Might as well post the source. Here is NY State law regarding first-degree murder. (Rex is charged with second-degree.)

NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov

www.nysenate.gov

 

[jessr927]

Re: the "supply" column in the bail doc, what is a "durn can?" I thought maybe he mistyped burn can, but none of the victims were burned. Any idea?

 

[DS2021]

Re: the "supply" column in the bail doc, what is a "durn can?" I thought maybe he mistyped burn can, but none of the victims were burned. Any idea?

Burning evidence imo

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I am very concerned he put photos and/or videos on the dark web or distributed them in another way. It's stomach churning, tbh.

And that is why I believe his transcripts showing *destroy photos* sounds pretty logical... If he got them to those dark web areas . He could probably get to them anonymously. At any future time

 

[Betty P]

Newsday is reporting he’s been charged for two counts of second degree murder — anyone know why it’s second degree? Isn’t there meticulous planning and premeditation to prove otherwise? Or is this only regards to other victims?

MOO

Here's the link to the superseding indictment, etc. The charges are described in the beginning

https://www.scribd.com/document/739871993/Rex-Heuermann-Superseding-Bail-Application-from-June-6-2024#fullscreen&from_embed

In New York, first degree murder has special qualifications like murdering a LEO or firefighter, prison guard, etc., murdering another person while in the process of murdering someone, killing someone while in the process of committing another crime like burglary, etc.

Second degree murder is a basic murder and is sufficient in this case, JMO. He's not going anywhere outside of prison for the rest of his life anyway, with all the other murder charges he's facing.

NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov

www.nysenate.gov

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Re: the "supply" column in the bail doc, what is a "durn can?" I thought maybe he mistyped burn can, but none of the victims were burned. Any idea?

Didn't his neighbor say Rex had fires in the backyard late at night? I'm going off memory. I think it's a typo and should be "burn can."

jmo

 

[OnTheCase40]

Entirely possible, that marrying a compliant non-curious woman, is important part of his cover. Yes, better yet, one who travels to visit family.

Single ogre-like creepy guy living in suburb is a red flag.

You're spot on. Israel Keyes said he was drawn to his last partner because she wasn't nosy and she traveled a lot for work. This allowed him the freedom to fly to his hotspots and commit his crimes.

 

[OnTheCase40]

I don't understand the thing with the cat litter?

My guess would be to absorb bodily fluids.

 

[Teche]

I presumed it meant that if he could hear a bird chirping from the outside, then someone on the outside could hear the sounds his victims made.

Was there a mention of feeding the bird? Maybe I misread.

 

[PennyPie7]

Was there a mention of feeding the bird? Maybe I misread.

What? No. There is no mention of feeding any bird.