I think the looooong "stretch" would be if someone in LE thought up the blueprint idea, got approval then spent 24/7 trying to get into RH's head to conjure up what was submitted by the prosecution' as evidence.
Is it known that he build an actual bunker?
In the early days of the case, the state police and FBI were shut out of the investigation - it is believed because the PTB did not want oversight and possible insight into the corruption of the local LE.
I thought about Rodney Harrison on Thursday and wondered if he remained connected to the case as a go-to for LE if need be?
I just keep thinking, why take pics and videos just to destroy them. I think he was sharing or selling them to like minded sickos. The easiest way to do that might be in chat rooms, at group fetish hookups or in later years on the dark web.
So did Bittrolff have a previous criminal history when he was charged and later convicted of those 2 murders? Probably, otherwise, how did they have his DNA on file to match it to the DNA found on the 2 victims, right? Anyone know what his previous convictions, if any, were for? He claims his DNA was on those women bc he had sex with them before they died. How long does DNA stay detectable for on a body? I mean, would he have had to have sex with them the day they died, or could it be from some time earlier than that? Wasn't he able to provide exculpatory evidence like proof that he'd been on a "date" with them? I know there probably aren't actual receipts for an escort date transaction, but seems like there might be something.
Might they share with another jurisdiction who might find similarities in cases they have? I really don’t know.
As details of this sad horrid case continue to slide into a crater……. I was just wondering if perhaps RH might have kept some evidence, trophies, photos, other….. to share with subsequent victims perhaps? Speculation only and no evidence that I know of this know. MOO
Or at the very least, at these group events, the guest might find folks on all ends of the fetish spectrum and then the most extreme might share their sick adventures, fruits of their hobbies (Stories, pics and videos) or ideas.
That's it? No DNA from RH or Bittrolff or anyone?
I thought he already did. Thought that was his whole defense.
Would he sell the images knowing the huge risk?
Not for money but maybe in trade to other sickos.
Or just for the satisfaction. Look how many people share regular photos on social media "for the likes." Maybe he enjoys disseminating disgusting material and that was enough pay-off.
From what we’ve learned, and based on these murders occurring in 1993 and 94, before Craigslist and Backpage became accessible by searching the internet, it might be safe to assume that the three women were independent streetwalkers- independent. Unless they had a p!mp, there’d be no record of the transaction or phone records, per se.
Multiple semen samples including Bittrolff's were found with Rita and Colleen. LE connected John Bittrolff because his brother Timothy was in the database for some crime (I don't recall what, but not murder). So the DNA partially matched Timothy which is how they got to John.
nypost.com
"My distrust of Spota and Burke makes me wonder . . ."
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"Spota credited the “miracle of DNA evidence” for catching and convicting Bittrolff.
Less than six months after the conviction, Spota was arrested for obstructing an investigation into the chief of the Suffolk County Police Department, who was accused of beating a prisoner. Both men were eventually convicted and sentenced to prison.
As with the Gilgo Beach investigation, the case against Bittrolff was dogged by allegations of mistakes and misconduct by police and prosecutors. During the trial, the Suffolk County police admitted to accidentally destroying the wood chips found on one of the women’s bodies and, separately, wood chips discovered in a car used by a police sergeant who was a potential suspect.
Police were also accused of prematurely destroying the sergeant’s investigative file. In their appeal, defense attorneys said prosecutors did not turn over another internal file containing allegations by the wife of a separate officer that her husband killed one of the women. Prosecutors maintain they did turn over that document; a judge has yet to rule.'
New charges for alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer cast scrutiny on another man's murder conviction
New charges brought against the man accused of a string of killings on New York's Long Island are raising questions about another man’s murder conviction.apnews.com
It also doesn't make sense with what we know about to JB case. 3 woman found , all beaten and posed within the same manner with the same article of clothing missing and the same wood chips found at all 3 scenes. JB was charged and convicted of 2 and suspected in the 3rd because all 3 scenes were exactly the same according to suffolk county police at the time. Fast forward 10 yrs, you have a man with over whelming evidence against him in 5 other murders and 1 from the JB case.
