Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Fiddlehead]

AT the :57 minute mark when they're sitting down, they mention a new office, and he says he wasn't eager to do the interview "under scaffolds". Is it possible that that was just a 4th story temporary office while the one on the 11th upper floor, was being worked on?

I mentioned his cheap office chairs. MOO, for someone that big of an ogre, it looks so wrong to see him settle into that small dainty office chair.​

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L'INTERVIEW with Rex, Dept. Of Buildings consultant & facilitator

sorry if this was already pointed out but this interview appears to have been conducted at the WeWork co-working space on the building's 4th floor. If you google the address of the building, the WeWork space comes up and there are lots of photos of it.

 

[Sleuth_EMJ]

13 years or not, IMO, this eyewitness identification that will be reiterated at trial, will carry weight with the jury simply because this man stands out and is so imposing. Opinion/speculation only

It is disturbing that the police didn't find the vehicle link much, much earlier.
Especially if it is discovered that this bloke has murdered more people since Gilgo Beach. (which wouldn't surprise me)


For others who may not have read it, this is from the bail document ...

"In January 2022,the Suffolk County District Attorney's Office assigned an experienced team of investigators, analysts, and prosecutors to work jointly with law enforcement partners from the Suffolk County Police Department, New York State Police, Suffolk County Sheriff's Office and Federal Bureau of Investigation ( FBI ).

A comprehensive review of every item of evidence and information in this investigation was undertaken by the team . March 14, 2022, approximately two months into the renewed joint investigation, this comprehensive review led to the discovery of a first-generation Chevrolet Avalanche that was registered to Defendant Rex A. Heuermann at the time of these murders.

As described below, this was significant, because a witness to the disappearance of Amber Costello identified a first-generation Chevrolet Avalanche as the vehicle believed to have been driven by her killer."

It's odd that the initial investigators were prevented from following the breadcrumbs RH left. I don't even know how he thought he was going to get away with Amber's murder when he knew his face and car had been seen by Amber's supposed boyfriend. He didn't even take the precaution of using a new burner phone to call her on the second night. It makes one wonder.

 

[iamshadow21]

It's odd that the initial investigators were prevented from following the breadcrumbs RH left. I don't even know how he thought he was going to get away with Amber's murder when he knew his face and car had been seen by Amber's supposed boyfriend. He didn't even take the precaution of using a new burner phone to call her on the second night. It makes one wonder.

He'd been killing for years by then. And not just killing, but taunting the families. He was confident nobody would find him. And for over a decade, he was right.

But he seriously misjudged how connected the victims he chose were to their families and friends. Those people were never going to forget their loved ones and be quiet.

MOO

 

[AndrewM71]

the part that still does not register is a Manhattan architect, who had his own firm, living in a pigsty like this. true about lots of oddballs. Thanks for your reply.

Based on his tax situation, his firm wasn’t that profitable. He had to cheat the IRS to keep himself afloat. Obviously he was spending money on sex workers, but considering that he bought the home for under $200K and his living costs would be quite cheap, neither his firm nor himself personally were financially successful.

In my experience, almost every profession has practitioners who keep up appearances with high overhead but are just scraping by at the end of the day.

 

[waldojabba]

I’ve been thinking he wears a wig. Was wondering if LE allows a wig in the mug shot photo.
His hair is so curly in this pic and in other photos it is very straight. The interview video shows straight hair.
Also wonder if he has other disguise wigs or dresses as a woman if he feels the need. So many questions.

I would bet my 401k that is some type of wig/hairpiece - you can see under it - or you can see a gap above his left ear on the booking picture. i am thinking he may have an actual shaved head or some form of alopecia or baldness. Maybe why none of his own hairs were found With any of the bodies. Also his mouth and eyes and hands are all tiny in relation to the proportions of his body. Also looks like some type of skin condition like psoriasis or one in that family on his face. Just an observation. Imo

 

[DaisyChains]

Interest

Yeah, not knocking LE in general, I know that is not okay, but this specific force had a lot of problems that have been very well documented in MSM, and seem to have been incredibly resistant to outside help until the recent changing of the guard. I only wonder how much sooner this person could have been in custody had the people responsible for investigating at the beginning been actually investigating, using all the tools and collaborations with other agencies available to them. So many wasted years.

But, we're here now, and I honestly didn't know if I'd live to see it, and I am not in my dotage. I didn't know if it was going to be another Zodiac, unanswered, an open wound with no healing and no justice.

MOO

Interesting sidenote about the zodiac killer. I would send graphology comparisons to Lloyd Cunningham. He was a lead graphologist for the FBI for some time and was a responding officer at the Presidio crime scene where Paul Stine was murdered by the zodiac. He also worked the Jonbenet Ramsey case.

Of all the comparisons I sent him, and I sent quite a few comparing persons of interest handwriting with the zodiac letters, his response to my comparison between the Unabomber/Ted Kaczynski and Zodiac stays with me:

It was along the lines of “I am unable to provide my opinion of this comparison as it has already been compared and is in custody of federal authorities”.
I’ve wondered if maybe we will never know who the zodiac was bc there’s a deep govt/MK ultra based program that brainwashed and created the zodiac and unabomber in the form of brilliant psychopath Ted Kaczynski.

I know another person online who has researched this angle extensively. There are interesting parallels they found.

Who knows. Zodiac killer is probably just some dead stupid loser by now who kicked the bucket sittin on the toilet.

 

[SharD]

When reading the court documents, four things stand out;

-He is a pedophile.
-He is NOT responsible for the AC4 murders, nor the torso murders. He did not look them up.
-He did look up "Asian twink", which may be related to the Asian male.
-He was not THAT careful.

 

[303gmf]

Additionally: according to online reviews, it seems like he had an address one block from Penn Station 6 years ago.

Upgrade or down from there to current?

 

[DaisyChains]

He'd been killing for years by then. And not just killing, but taunting the families. He was confident nobody would find him. And for over a decade, he was right.

But he seriously misjudged how connected the victims he chose were to their families and friends. Those people were never going to forget their loved ones and be quiet.

MOO

The child

Rudy Giuliani chats with cops outside of Gilgo Beach murder suspect’s home as neighbors hold block party

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani showed up at the Long Island residence of the suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Saturday — driving up and asking an officer how close he could get to the home.

nypost.com

At one point, officers pulled a wooden and glass display case out of the home that had a blond, child-size doll wearing a red dress inside.

“My mother worked for the census back in 2010 and she was allowed in the house and she noticed it was a disgusting mess,” Harmon said.

“It was like a pigsty.”

There was a disconnected burner stove in the middle of the living room, Harmon recalled, adding her mom told her she had “a creepy feeling” being there.

Oh goodness the child sized doll!? Remember when someone anonymously left the Time Out dolls at the memorial sites for the victims?! Shannan’s mother was so upset and suspicious of it!

I was just wondering yesterday if they would find Time Out dolls in his home!!!

ETA: they were called “TIME OUT DOLLS”

I would leave a hyperlink for the dolls, but unfortunately am on Mexican internet.

 

[iamshadow21]

The child


Oh goodness the child sized doll!? Remember when someone anonymously left the Time Out dolls at the memorial sites for the victims?! Shannan’s mother was so upset and suspicious of it!

I was just wondering yesterday if they would find Time Out dolls in his home!!!

ETA: they were called “TIME OUT DOLLS”

I would leave a hyperlink for the dolls, but unfortunately am on Mexican internet.

I think, given the display case, this one is more likely to be a standard porcelain doll.

My memory of the weird creepiness that was Time Out dolls was that they tended to be displayed freestanding in a room against a wall.

MOO

 

[Fiddlehead]

When reading the court documents, four things stand out;

-He is NOT responsible for the AC4 murders, nor the torso murders. He did not look them up.

we have no idea if he looked them up, or not. LE only shared the google searches they wanted to share at the time they wanted to share them. If they are building a case on him for other murders, they're very unlikely to include that evidence into this document.

 

[Ursamajr]

Upgrade or down from there to current?

Unsure. I didn't go over to check that building. 5th ave address has more sparkle in print but he might have been downgraded in space. Because of proximity to Penn Station it might have been a plus for commuting. Area isn't as nice though.

 

[MrsPC]

Ok - I'm just trying to get the facts straight in my mind...But according to the documents online, Maureen was bound by 3 belts. Megan & Amber were bound by duct tape. And since Maureen was bound by belts, I'm assuming one of those belts was the "HM or WH" belt. But I'm unable to discern if Melissa was bound by belts or tape. ?? Also, documents say 3 of the victims were also wrapped in burlap. But I'm not certain which victim was not. Just thinking out loud LOL.

 

[iamshadow21]

Ok - I'm just trying to get the facts straight in my mind...But according to the documents online, Maureen was bound by 3 belts. Megan & Amber were bound by duct tape. And since Maureen was bound by belts, I'm assuming one of those belts was the "HM or WH" belt. But I'm unable to discern if Melissa was bound by belts or tape. ?? Also, documents say 3 of the victims were also wrapped in burlap. But I'm not certain which victim was not. Just thinking out loud LOL.

Yeah, that only three were wrapped in burlap is new information to me. Both Robert Kolker's article and the book he wrote, Lost Girls, say all four of that cluster of burials were in burlap. Amber, Megan, Melissa, Maureen. Obviously, he thought that was true when he wrote it, but that's another thing that's been kept back until now by LE that they've obviously known since the burials were first uncovered.

A Serial Killer in Common

Five dead women turn up on a beach, and their families ask: Who murdered my daughter? Who was my sister — really?

nymag.com

I suppose the question is, was one buried without wrapping, or was one wrapped in a different kind of material?

There is another victim on the LISK wiki page, where it mentions she was wrapped but that LE will not give information about the material. Makes me wonder if it's burlap, too, or something very distinctive or unique. She was found in 2013. She is unidentified.

Long Island serial killer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

MOO

 

[GoBuckeyes]

What's under the green tarp? What is it? A vintage car? A go-cart? Lawn equipment? Some kind of small vehicle?

MOO, I'm thinking it must've been his wife doing all that gardening because pizza eating ogre doesn't strike me as a gardener. MOO also, I do think he might be a cheap skate from viewing the office chairs he was using in that realty video.

Yes, I am intrigued with that cellar that can be entered from the relatively private backyard. All MOO.​

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Just wondering if it's true that it seemed many of the victims had hazel eyes. I can understand his ability to select smaller body frames from the ads with pictures, but not certain eye color. ​

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It appears to me to be an older Jeep.

 

[airportwoman]

He may also have used older technology because he thought it would be harder to trace.

I saw a link to a New York Times story from another site, and one story that actually had me chuckling a bit was from a neighbor who used Halloween night as a chance to perhaps see what the inside of that dilapidated house looked like. He didn't see anything, but Rex himself handed his children small plastic pumpkins full of candy. When he came home and his wife found out which house that had come from, she made him discard them. The story also said that his (Rex's) wife is on disability (it didn't say why, and at least for now, it's NOOB) and that his daughter worked for his firm.

 

[airportwoman]

He is pretty tall, Does anyone know the exact height and weight? He reminds me of Edward Kemper, a big tall and menacing.

I heard that he's 6'6", and most likely >300 pounds.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Yeah, that only three were wrapped in burlap is new information to me. Both Robert Kolker's article and the book he wrote, Lost Girls, say all four of that cluster of burials were in burlap. Amber, Megan, Melissa, Maureen. Obviously, he thought that was true when he wrote it, but that's another thing that's been kept back until now by LE that they've obviously known since the burials were first uncovered.

A Serial Killer in Common

Five dead women turn up on a beach, and their families ask: Who murdered my daughter? Who was my sister — really?

nymag.com

I suppose the question is, was one buried without wrapping, or was one wrapped in a different kind of material?

There is another victim on the LISK wiki page, where it mentions she was wrapped but that LE will not give information about the material. Makes me wonder if it's burlap, too, or something very distinctive or unique. She was found in 2013. She is unidentified.

Long Island serial killer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

MOO

Perhaps a blanket with wife's hair. Curious if any blankets disappeared while she was out of town,that he had an 'explanation' for.

 

[airportwoman]

Hi, I am new on here and don’t really know how this works so apologies in advance. does it seem odd that someone with an architectural firm in the city lives in a dilapidated dump like this? also wondering why no one flagged this person previously. Every neighborhood has weirdos that are well-known to the community, especially if that creepy person has been there his whole life.

Some people are very good at hiding in plain sight, until they can't any more.

 

[iamshadow21]

Thoughts on material - though most of the other victims listed on the LISK wiki page, specifically the ones who were dismembered, were disposed of in garbage bags, Jessica Taylor's torso was found on plastic sheeting. You find plastic sheeting in a lot of places, and it comes in a lot of different grades, thicknesses, flexibilities, and opacities, but one of the things it's used for is to cover polytunnels/greenhouses.

MOO