Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Izzylizzy]

Didn't the police establish that RH's family was away from home for five of the murders? The fist one happened before he met his current wife.

I was referring to VH's reading interests,images and her art works not the murders RH is accused of.
The horrific mutilated corpse book was on the kitchen table when it was just VH at home when LE arrived for the 2nd search.

So now AE was also oblivious to her daughter's interests along with her husbands?

 

[LadyL]

Adult characters made their own decisions. The worst of the lot was their legal representation.

The adult character in question is obviously a witness. Perhaps one I would feel a great deal of empathy for. This adult could very sympathetically perceived as working through the trauma of what was witnessed in art.

If she came public with that, she'd probably have made a fortune selling her work- a traumatized hero who helped convict a monster.

Instead, the adult has allowed a sleazy lawyer get a sleazy deal with a sleazy network. Possibly netting her less than the art would have netted her. And the adult by all appearances is NIT helping LE or engaging in therapy, etc. to help get her to a place where she can help LE.

I feel awful for this adult, and will jump right into whole-heartedly supporting her journey from victim to cooperative witness, if that's what she chooses.

But there was no character assassination. There was proof that a witness is not coming forward, but is taking a Peacock deal. And when that deal is signed, offering an opinion about it is fair game.

MOO

[bbm]

how would anyone know if she's engaging in therapy?

 

[snarast]

I hope she sues the pants off this clown.

Then this would be a good example of going out with a bang.

 

[LadyL]

VH wasn't unaware nor unknowing. I believe AE is the same.

jmo

[bbm]

how do you know that?

 

[Warwick7]

Did the second autopsy actually state that a hole "had been drilled into the hyoid bone" (I suspect that there would be evidence of tool markings/drilling of that hole)? If so, please link to the report.

Or simply that there "was a hole in the hyoid bone"?

Can this be naturally occuring when such a small bone is left in the harsh elements for such a prolonged period of time? I ask this because it's actually a 'thing' in these parts to search for rocks with holes worn into them by the elements and salt water. Those are rocks. Seems to me, that same natural erosion could also easily occur to a small human hyoid bone that is also laying exposed in same enviornmental circumstances in a much quicker timeframe.

Hag Stones / Adder Stones

BBM
As time has went on there have been so many links posted on Shannon's thread about this. Idk, we might have a media thread on this too, I just can't remember. If not this is some of what we received.

Family Attorney: New Autopsy Finds Shannan Gilbert's Death 'Consistent With Homicidal Strangulation'

New independent autopsy results found that the death of a New Jersey prostitute, whose body was discovered on Long Island near 10 other victims of a suspected serial killer, is "consistent with homicidal strangulation," the family's lawyer says.

www.cbsnews.com

https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/12/us/new-york-shannan-gilbert-case/index.html

Verifying Device

www.the-sun.com

Gilgo Beach victim attorney denies police claims of 'tragic accident'

Shannan Gilbert's relatives hit out at officers for claiming her disappearance in Long Island in 2010 was not suspicious.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[AugustWest]

I'm not being facetious when I say this, I look to you as the moral compass of this board. You have an emotional depth and a knack for empathy I wish more people had in life.


I've been wondering for a while if he's goading Asa, and now Victoria, into suing him. It would open up the door for him to question some things. Like Asa's questionable alibi during the dates MBB went missing.

He straight up assassinated a person's character today...if I was licensed to practice in New York I would take the case pro-bono. This is disgusting behavior. She never asked to be the daughter of an accused serial murderer.

 

[Izzylizzy]

My initial reaction to the crazy presser:

* Rex' interest in Stockholm Syndrome may have extended to his family.
* Ray is circling, like a shark, to implicate Asa.
* By going so hard after VH, Ray is putting pressure on Asa and Rex to provide more info in an effort to protect VH (not sure that will work).
* There are more victims than what we know about.
*This was not a pearl-clutch against furries but was about Rex and his influence.


My opinions at the moment, subject to change as we learn more.

jmo

I can't be the only one here that always had a ? when it came to VH and the concern that she may have been abused in some way by RH.

Though her having the passion for and recreating in her art the info divulged today never crossed my mind.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Graphic, violent furry p o r n????

I'm sorry I turned this on.

I've never been so happy that Thursday is my kitchen deep cleaning day. I listened to the presser while mopping, and that physical exertion to clean helped get through it.

jmo

 

[indicolite22]

I was referring to VH's reading interests,images and her art works not the murders RH is accused of.
The horrific mutilated corpse book was on the kitchen table when it was just VH at home when LE arrived for the 2nd search.

So now AE was also oblivious to her daughter's interests along with her husbands?

John Ray is implying that RH's family was involved in the murders. They weren't there when they took place. It does look like dark interests weren't taboo in their family.

 

[fred&edna]

[bbm]

how do you know that?

Well, it's my opinion (noted by the jmo in my post). I'm not psychic yet. lol

 

[SkylarSid]

I wonder what the desired outcome of this is. If she isn’t being charged with anything, what’s the end game? It seems gratuitous to me; obviously disturbing, but does that make it actionable?

Maybe VH will sue him!

 

[Izzylizzy]

He straight up assassinated a person's character today...if I was licensed to practice in New York I would take the case pro-bono. This is disgusting behavior. She never asked to be the daughter of an accused serial murderer.

As an attorney do you think if prosecutors had been aware of VH's social media contents they wouldn't have questioned her from the get-go?

 

[Izzylizzy]

Maybe VH will sue him!

Aren't these accounts that VH didn't delete?

Ray spoke about other accounts of hers that were deleted.

 

[fred&edna]

I wonder how quickly the family obtained legal representation?

 

[LadyL]

Hes turning this into a circus. Its time for him to step back. This is absolutely pointless

yep
is anyone really surprised that some of the girl's families dropped him like a hot potato

 

[marble]

What John Ray has done to VH is disgusting.

Visit any college art class or high school art room and you'll see a ton of kids wearing goth clothes or clothing or t-shirts from bands with disturbing imagery. Have none of you ever *been* a teen or even young adult? I'm not a furry but one of my most respected work team members was and they were one of the kindest and most ethical people I've ever had the pleasure of knowing.

I went to art school and my undergrad and grad paintings were filled with disturbing images. My father wasn't a serial killer (as far as I know) and didn't sexually abuse me. I still occasionally make paintings and sculpture that includes figures being tortured or spilling entrails. That's because I'm exploring themes or attempting to communicate larger concepts by using imagery that possibly induces a fleeting physical or emotional reaction in viewers who interact with the work. Despite this, I can't stomach hearing about real-life gore and trauma and avoid seeing it whenever possible- but my sister, who is also one of the kindest, most empathetic people I know *loves* gory horror torture movies.

What possible benefit could it be for dragging someone's deeply personal browsing history and artistic tastes when they were a 13 year old out into the public and promoting this humiliation as widely as possible. The absolute cruelty is breathtaking. I hope he's disbarred.

 

[x_files]

Yes, I'm just saying what John Ray stated. It is strange art though.

Is there anywhere online we can view this artwork?

 

[Deleted member 117884]

And the ratings potential for the documentary just skyrocketed. Woooweee.

Cynical response, I know.

jmo

 

[Warwick7]

Sherre Gilbert
@ThatGirlRee_24

I do NOT agree with anything John Ray is doing. This is disrespectful and I had no prior knowledge to this “press conference” or the “evidence” he was presenting today!

Granted I'm only part way through all these posts.

She has every right to be angry and she has every right to feel this was disrespectful.

However, I'm not solely interested in what she has to say, I'm interested in knowing if this information finds victims and gives victims vindication.

 

[fred&edna]

He straight up assassinated a person's character today...if I was licensed to practice in New York I would take the case pro-bono. This is disgusting behavior. She never asked to be the daughter of an accused serial murderer.

Would this fall under any kind of NY anti-SLAPP laws??