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I just spoke to an associate whose brother in law is friends with the suspect.
He had ZERO clue, zero inkling this guy could be capable of anything like this.
He had been inside his house and down in his gun 'vault' as he described it and he had a lot of guns.
He was told by the suspect that many of them were colletors items, and he was worried that the state would try and take them.
My associate's brother also said that the suspect took him up state NY to hunt, and duck hunting in the area where the bodies were dumped. He thought the guy was maybe a bit quirky, but not dangerous, or a threat.
As far as the house looking like a dump, he said the suspect told him that he wanted to preserve the house exactly as his father had left it, so that's why he never changed it, fixed, it, or enhanced the house. (at least that's the excuse the suspect gave him for it being a dump)
Lastly, he said not only does the suspect own property in Vegas, but in the Carolinas

Good to see you here @morf13 ! Thank you (and your associate) for the insight!

And here we go with duck hunting again!!
 
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How is he all this debt, yet can afford additional property and an insane amount of guns?
MOO
Its called priorities lol!
 
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Agreed. JB suffered from lifelong depression. Most people who followed this case closely knew this. Unfortunately, those who just listened to the rumor mill likely caused a lot of grief for the family. Thankfully, it didn’t hurt their still thriving business.
Was this the individual part of whose association with the suspicions was to do with burlap?
 
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The toolbox is evidence, so the marker is the toolbox.
Doesn't look like tools in the toolbox.

What the heck is in that toolbox?!?
 
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I'm not sure if the hair is natural or a wig but I do think the bail filing yesterday referenced a hair found on one of the victims that was a match to him via the pizza. A few of us discussed this belt at length yesterday. This is so distinctive. Unless this was somewhere in a box or in an attic or basement, etc. where the wife wouldn't even know of its existence, we really do not know how this wife remained in the dark until yesterday. MOO Fmr. Police Chief Geraldine Hart held a press conference and had a huge blow up of this showing the initials both ways (as WH and upside down as HM). Police reveal 'significant' evidence in unsolved Gilgo Beach serial killer case

This was all over local news. It's hard to believe she didn't see at least one report (MOO). So, maybe she didn't know of the belt's existence so was none the wiser or, maybe she blocked out what she saw. This belt for me, these markings are distinct. If I saw it even once on a relative, friend, whatever, I would remember this and I would recognize it.

Geraldine Hart did this press conference in January 2020, hoping someone, anyone, would come forward. From this link "[Hart] would not say the size of the belt, where exactly it was found at the crime scene and declined to say whether DNA had been found on it." <-- I'm sure LE has so much more than we know.
 
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To all of our "newbies":

Welcome!

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they said it was Dr Hackett but where are the phone records? My understanding was that the caller identified himself as Dr Hackett or a Doctor .. do we really know if it was in fact PH? mOO
Hackett later told 48 Hours that yes, he had called Mari Gilbert. But he said he called her a week later for friends who were helping with the search and never said he met Shannan or rendered “medical care of any sort.”

CBS News reported that phone records, however, showed that he called Mari Gilbert on his wife’s phone on May 3, the day Mari said she got a call from him. Hackett said he just couldn’t remember his story. “A person gets a lot of phone calls,” he told CBS.

You can read Hackett’s letters here.


Dominick Varrone, former Chief of Detectives, told CBS News that Hackett wasn’t a suspect. Strange calls like that were usual for him.

Varrone told CBS: “He’s an individual who likes to get involved. Some call him a storyteller and an exaggerator.” Varrone also said that police didn’t know about the nature of Hackett’s call until months later, which was why they didn’t investigate him right away.

 
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I know someone upthread mentioned a boat. I, too, believe he (at some point) owned a boat. Additionally, I am curious if he was ever issued a 4x4 fishing permit which would enable him to drive onto certain beaches off Ocean Parkway. Some of them can be desolate especially off season. Have there been any searches in the area post hurricane Sandy? There is a 5 mile stretch of beach/dunes from Gilgo to Overlook that I am curious if LE has gone back and searched.
 
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I know someone upthread mentioned a boat. I, too, believe he (at some point) owned a boat. Additionally, I am curious if he was ever issued a 4x4 fishing permit which would enable him to drive onto certain beaches off Ocean Parkway. Some of them can be desolate especially off season. Have there been any searches in the area post hurricane Sandy? There is a 5 mile stretch of beach/dunes from Gilgo to Overlook that I am curious if LE has gone back and searched.
If he hunted ducks, he would likely have had a boat.
 
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I'm not sure if the hair is natural or a wig but I do think the bail filing yesterday referenced a hair found on one of the victims that was a match to him via the pizza. A few of us discussed this belt at length yesterday. This is so distinctive. Unless this was somewhere in a box or in an attic or basement, etc. where the wife wouldn't even know of its existence, we really do not know how this wife remained in the dark until yesterday. MOO Fmr. Police Chief Geraldine Hart held a press conference and had a huge blow up of this showing the initials both ways (as WH and upside down as HM). Police reveal 'significant' evidence in unsolved Gilgo Beach serial killer case

This was all over local news. It's hard to believe she didn't see at least one report (MOO). So, maybe she didn't know of the belt's existence so was none the wiser or, maybe she blocked out what she saw. This belt for me, these markings are distinct. If I saw it even once on a relative, friend, whatever, I would remember this and I would recognize it.

Geraldine Hart did this press conference in January 2020, hoping someone, anyone, would come forward. From this link "[Hart] would not say the size of the belt, where exactly it was found at the crime scene and declined to say whether DNA had been found on it." <-- I'm sure LE has so much more than we know.
I was just saying this yesterday. If the belt came from the grandfather ( his monogram) I really find it hard to believe that the wife never saw it on the news. The monogram is also distinct in its design. Were there other items with the grandfathers monogram in the home? It was reported that the home was pretty much as it was when the grandfather lived there so there must have been other items of the grandfathers in the home. Did any of those items bear that monogram? I’m obviously speculating a lot, but all seem like reasonable questions.
 
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Yes, I thought it was very well done. Websleuths, Tricia the owner, and some members are featured in it. It's how I first found this site. A link to that A&E series is also posted on here. #1
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Watching now it’s really good so far
 
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Hackett later told 48 Hours that yes, he had called Mari Gilbert. But he said he called her a week later for friends who were helping with the search and never said he met Shannan or rendered “medical care of any sort.”

You can read Hackett’s letters here.


Dominick Varrone, former Chief of Detectives, told CBS News that Hackett wasn’t a suspect. Strange calls like that were usual for him.

Varrone told CBS: “He’s an individual who likes to get involved. Some call him a storyteller and an exaggerator.” Varrone also said that police didn’t know about the nature of Hackett’s call until months later, which was why they didn’t investigate him right away.

Hackett called Mari Gilbert from his wife’s phone (not a friend) May 6th. FACT. The phone pinged just blocks away from
Gilbert’s residence in NJ, which is incredibly strange. Don’t read his BS letter, read the depo.
 
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My associate's brother also said that the suspect took him up state NY to hunt, and duck hunting in the area where the bodies were dumped.

Well... That opens some questions in my mind about the NY hunt location.
 
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I really don’t think any of the victims personal items will be in his home, because in his mind the very victims were his personal properties. Overall I hope and pray all the families and friends and even the public gets closure and justice.
Remember he’s just one of the many serial killers out in this world. If the public and law enforcements work together like in this situation I feel these type of evil people will be caught a lot faster instead of years of suffering .
MOO, The way this guy appears to hoard and obsess over his victims, there's 0 chance he doesn't have a collection of reminders near by.
 

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