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  • #842
Pics of family at link.
''The suspect busted for the Gilgo Beach murders is a twice-married architect quietly raising two children — including a son with special needs — in the ramshackle Long Island home he grew up in.''

'The 59-year-old architect was raised with his brother, Craig, in the unkempt 1956 home on 1st Avenue that is directly across the bay from where 11 bodies have been found strewn since 2010.'

''He bought the house from his mom, Dolores, for $170,000 in 1994, according to property records.

That was the same year he started his company, RH Architecture Design, based on Fifth Avenue in midtown Manhattan, where he was arrested late Thursday.''
 
  • #843
A lot of comments on the appearance of his house I think people are overreacting to.

How many chefs order takeaway on the way home after a long day cooking? Alot. Sometimes when you've done something all day for work you don't want to do it at home.

People that do, are likely using their house as a show piece or are inviting clients there. If he was doing neither I don't think the miskemptness ( is that a word?) means much.
 
  • #844
Having now read all the documents etc I will be very surprised if those already identified/mentioned are his only victims.
 
  • #845
We learned that he googled the progress of the investigation as well as his victims' relatives. Does this pertain to the four named victims or also others that were found in the area? If he only focused on the four, perhaps it's less likely that he was involved in earlier murders. OTOH, there could be more victims that we don't know of yet. Wouldn't he search for information about those cases as well? Maybe he did, just not recently. Would we learn about possible connections to other murders (apart from the location) before he gets charged for those? The MO seems different in other cases.
 
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  • #846
I wonder if he didn't pay taxes because he's broke or because of some other reason. I'm guessing he might not have money for a hot-shot lawyer when he needs one.

From the same link as above:

"Heuermann appears to have had issues paying his taxes going back more than a decade. Nassau County records show Heuermann was subject to six tax liens filed by the IRS in Nassau County between 2010 and 2021. According to the liens, Heuermann owed a total of more than $425,000 for taxes he had failed to pay going back to 2005.

The IRS later filed tax lien releases showing that Heuermann repaid or no longer owed about $215,078 of that debt, with the most recent documents being filed in October 2022.

According to the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance, Heuermann and his wife, Asa Ellerup, also currently owe a total of more than $81,500 in personal income tax to the state, with the tax bills having accrued since November 2020."
His arrest must have felt to him like a relief (after whining a bit about his fate). Seems, he would not have endured his life much longer like this. Neither would have done his unsuspecting wife.
IMO, he earned too little for having a family and his preferred interests. As an severe addicted person (one can assume) he did miss to earn his costs of living over a range of years, I think.

I myself had a boss mannny years ago, who was interested in photography (no idea, what else) and didn't care for enough time for his tax clients. It had consequences, which ended with his suicide.
 
  • #847
We learned that he googled the progress of the investigation as well as his victims' relatives. Does this pertain to the four named victims or also others that were found in the area? If he only focused on the four, perhaps it's less likely that he was involved in earlier murders. OTOH, there could be more victims that we don't know of yet. Wouldn't he search for information about those cases as well? Maybe he did, just not recently. Would we learn about possible connections to other murders (except for the location) before he gets charged for those? The MO seems different in other cases.
bbm
Very good question!! Perhaps he gave something away by googling it??
 
  • #848
His arrest must have felt to him like a relief (after whining a bit about his fate). Seems, he would not have endured his life much longer like this. Neither would have done his unsuspecting wife.
IMO, he earned too little for having a family and his preferred interests. As an severe addicted person (one can assume) he did miss to earn his costs of living over a range of years, I think.

I myself had a boss mannny years ago, who was interested in photography (no idea, what else) and didn't care for enough time for his tax clients. It had consequences, which ended with his suicide.
If the arrest was a relief to him, he would have confessed. Instead he cried and denied involvement. Crying seems weird to me in this case. Serial killers are often perceived as emotionless when they get caught.
 
  • #849
His arrest must have felt to him like a relief (after whining a bit about his fate). Seems, he would not have endured his life much longer like this. Neither would have done his unsuspecting wife.
IMO, he earned too little for having a family and his preferred interests. As an severe addicted person (one can assume) he did miss to earn his costs of living over a range of years, I think.

I myself had a boss mannny years ago, who was interested in photography (no idea, what else) and didn't care for enough time for his tax clients. It had consequences, which ended with his suicide.
Great insights.

I wonder what came first, chicken or egg? Did his "addictions" serve as a coping mechanism for his bumbling life or did he not quite achieve success because of his criminal activities.

And by not achieving success, I mean he didn't pay bills, lived a sloppy life. Not every professional wants to live a showy life and there is absolutely nothing wrong with living modestly and focusing on hobbies. That is fine - no offense given. But that is not what is happening here. Any comments about his run-down house in an otherwise nice neighborhood are a reflection on him, not anyone who might be reading this. The man is accused of being a disgusting serial killer and yes my impression of his life is colored by that.

jmo
 
  • #850
A lot of comments on the appearance of his house I think people are overreacting to.

How many chefs order takeaway on the way home after a long day cooking? Alot. Sometimes when you've done something all day for work you don't want to do it at home.

People that do, are likely using their house as a show piece or are inviting clients there. If he was doing neither I don't think the miskemptness ( is that a word?) means much.
I think, it's an indictment of poverty for a self-employed man (and in addition an architect!), the front and back of the house. And in my mind, it is a little bit creepy already, if I am not willing to have clients and associates as guests in my home. It's not the usual way to have a career (and to have the acc. income).
 
  • #851
If the arrest was a relief to him, he would have confessed. Instead he cried and denied involvement. Crying seems weird to me in this case. Serial killers are often perceived as emotionless when they get caught.
He seems to be a wimp. Giant man, nothing behind. IMO
 
  • #852
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  • #853
A chauffeur for one of the murdered girls was a suspect at one stage.
 
  • #854
LE did away with the burlap connection in their press conference. But, I still can't stop thinking about how badly JB was villanized
Is there a list of acronyms for this sub? I'm just jumping in now (although I see a number of familiar names from forums past!). I know there was a JohnB and a JamesB that had both been the object of speculation in the past. I'm from NYC but we've long had a family vacation place in Suffolk County so I've been following this case for years. Thank you!
 
  • #855
I think, it's an indictment of poverty for a self-employed man (and in addition an architect!), the front and back of the house. And in my mind, it is a little bit creepy already, if I am not willing to have clients and associates as guests in my home. It's not the usual way to have a career (and to have the acc. income).
Apropos: I'm wondering about his renovation in 2009 (in the middle of time span, when his murders occured, namely 2007-2010), when "the walls came down" (acc. to his wife). Maybe, this "renovation" was urgently necessary because of some contamination/destruction at home through the wife's absence?
 
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something i dont understand
are these serial killings not all done by the same killer ? but possibly several but linked by location ?
 
  • #857
something i dont understand
are these serial killings not all done by the same killer ? but possibly several but linked by location ?
I think that has always been a potential.
 
  • #858
When I am looking at his high school year book photo, I think, he is something, what we nowadays would call "nerd", probably very smart, but interested in one preferred theme. MOO
 
  • #859
If the arrest was a relief to him, he would have confessed. Instead he cried and denied involvement. Crying seems weird to me in this case. Serial killers are often perceived as emotionless when they get caught.
i bet he faked those tears. Were there actual tears?
Sociopaths have shallow emotions for others.
But enormous sympathy, self pity , for themselves. Poor little me. … look what you made me do! They also tend to be resentful of normal things, like paying taxes. And chaotic. He fits the bill to me….doesn’t like paying taxes. House is messy. Seeks pity. And apparently quite arrogant….posting when other architects fail, he is the solution to repairing their mistakes. I am thrilled to bits they caught him. And although he is still only the alleged murderer, the incredibly documented evidence, and his location, and personality characteristics, seem perfect.
 
  • #860
'July 15, 2023
Ginia Bellafante, Corey Kilgannon and Michael Wilson contributed reporting. Jack Begg contributed research.

''At his office near the Empire State Building, Rex Heuermann was a master of the meticulous: a veteran architectural consultant and a self-styled expert at navigating the intricacies of New York City’s building code. He impressed some clients and drove others crazy with his fine-toothed directives.
At home in Massapequa Park on Long Island, while some neighbors saw Mr. Heuermann as just another commuter in a suit, others found him a figure of menace. He glowered at neighbors
while swinging an ax in the front yard of a low-slung, dilapidated house that parents cautioned their children to avoid on Halloween. He was kicked out of a Whole Foods for stealing fruit.
“We would cross the street,” said Nicholas Ferchaw, 24, a neighbor. “He was somebody you don’t want to approach.”
On Friday, Suffolk County prosecutors said that residents of Massapequa Park had a serial killer living in their midst. They accused Mr. Heuermann, 59, of leaving a quarter-mile trail of young women’s bodies on the South Shore of Long Island in what came to be known as the Gilgo Beach Killings. Yet he was so careful in covering his tracks, they said, that it took them nearly 15 years to arrest him.

Mr. Heuermann’s friends and clients in the real estate business were flabbergasted.
His neighbor Mr. Ferchaw said, “I wasn’t surprised at all — because of all the creepiness.”
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A yearbook photo of Mr. Heuermann from Berner High School in Massapequa.Credit...The New York Times

''Steve Kramberg, a property manager in Brooklyn who worked with Mr. Heuermann for about 30 years, called him “a gem to deal with, highly knowledgeable.” Mr. Heuermann was “a big goofy guy, a little bit on the nerdy side” who worked long hours and was available day and night, Mr. Kramberg said. But he was also devoted to his wife, who Mr. Kramberg said had health problems, and to his elderly mother.''

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''It was late last summer that Mr. Heuermann, sweaty and wearing a dingy T-shirt and shorts, was spotted at the Massapequa Park Whole Foods pilfering clementines from a bowl put out for children.

“He took three and put them in his pocket, then he took more,” said Tara Alonzo, a clerk at the store. After a few more rounds she called him out. “I said, ‘Sir, those are for the kids,’” she recalled. She said Mr. Heuermann yelled back and became so heated that her manager escorted him out.''
 
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