Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[jellybeanz]

So glad this perp has been caught.

 

[Missnikkie80]

Murdered or accidental death of SG has been hotly debated by many WS members over the years. So I understand your thinking.

Her purse was found in one spot, her phone in another, her lip gloss, her pants in another. None of these were in a "trail" formation (as if she was dropping things as she moved). Doesn't make any sense for a police chief to suggest she just lost her pants. jmo

This is a long shot but I live in Florida and I have been following the Gilgo case but a few years back on I95 we a a string of murder ppl on the side of the road starting in Port Saint Lucie all the way to vero beach do you think this could be connected to Gilgo

 

[otto]

Yes. Reading through the Bail Application makes plain that in the beginning the hairs were too badly degraded to be read in DNA. However, they were when resubmitted -- not the entire nuclear DNA but the MtDNA. My early guess is that this case might not have been solvable in 2010 but has had to wait for advances in technology to have the wealth of evidence they do now.

Mitochondrial DNA was in place at the 2007 Meredith Kercher murder and trial. When the hair follicle is missing, the hair can only be traced through the female line.

"Mitochondrial DNA is only inherited from our mothers and does not undergo recombination. This means that our mitochondrial DNA is identical to that of our siblings, our mother and her sisters, and her sisters' children, as well as to that of our mother's mother and her siblings, etc. This is limited by the fact that at some point, a random mutation will occur and would be passed on to the next generation. This is why mitochondrial DNA is used when we want to examine an individual's maternal dynasty."​

Oct 28, 2018

Police had strands of hair on 3 bodies. Two strands belonged to a female. Familial DNA must have been used to connect the hair to Icelandic origin.

Simultaneously, police were developing the ability to trace burner phones, connect them to locations and other phones, and check phone records. My impression is that police identified the vehicle a year ago, but needed more evidence for search warrants. The hair traced to his wife, but she and children were away during the murders. Burner phones were connected to the murders and police have footage of the suspect adding minutes to one of the burner phones. He disposed of the phone after each murder.

It seems like advanced DNA analysis, Familial DNA investigation, and burner phone tracing had to come together for the arrest to be made.

 

[Missnikkie80]

This is a long shot but I live in Florida and I have been following the Gilgo case but a few years back on I95 we a a string of murder ppl on the side of the road starting in Port Saint Lucie all the way to vero beach do you think this could be connected to Gilgo

 

[MomminIt]

Again, and, MOO, but, this man was so comfortable in his family home and neighborhood for decades. I could see him out at odd hours visiting his “trophies”/victims. Many marriages are estranged yet living together. His wife could’ve cared less what he was doing and when. If he happened to be out there when Shannan was running around there, making noise, dressed up, dead of night… I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he was involved….dead of night…home turf…

 

[CuriousCricket]

if he 'wanted to be caught ... deep down', it would only be for the notoriety IMO

Agree. And once he knows all the evidence against him, once the legal maneuvering is over, he'll want to brag about his numbers, want to impress everyone and to relive his glory moments with anyone who will listen.

 

[MomminIt]

Agree. And once he knows all the evidence against him, once the legal maneuvering is over, he'll want to brag about his numbers, want to impress everyone and to relive his glory moments with anyone who will listen.

My vibe is he’ll go down crying like a baby, protesting his innocence til the bitter end. He is living a split life. Won’t be able to face his fam.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Apparently, according to some co-workers or clients, he had already been trying to discuss the case. At the time, they had thought he was just trying to make interesting conversation because he lived so close in the area. Later, They realized what he was doing. I think he'll want to claim credit and re-live his memories.

 

[Ursamajr]

This is a long shot but I live in Florida and I have been following the Gilgo case but a few years back on I95 we a a string of murder ppl on the side of the road starting in Port Saint Lucie all the way to vero beach do you think this could be connected to Gilgo

Rex Huermann was president of his own Architectural firm and has managed to fool co-workers and family for at least the past 15 years. Disappearing out of town for extended periods of time might have tipped people off. It's always a possibility he had jobs out of town but as of right now I am only seeing an active license to practice in NYS but that doesn't mean he didn't have out of state licenses in the past. As of right now, based off of what we know so far, it doesn't seem likely. That said, who knows... ya know?

 

[vls12345]

Long Island serial killings arrest brings pain, relief to victims’ families

Prosecutors say the suspect Rex Heuermann had gone online to ask, “Why hasn’t the Long Island serial killer been caught?”

www.smh.com.au

 

[MomminIt]

Apparently, according to some co-workers or clients, he had already been trying to discuss the case. At the time, they had thought he was just trying to make interesting conversation because he lived so close in the area. Later, They realized what he was doing. I think he'll want to claim credit and re-live his memories.

Perhaps! It will be interesting to see what he does. I think he’s super psychologically conflicted. He really could go either or any way. Manipulators tend to go whichever way they believe will suit them.

 

[NeverPersonal]

Scores of guns confiscated from Long Island home of suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer — who had 92 legal permits

A state police investigator hauled the blue plastic tub of weapons from Heuermann’s Massapequa Park home as authorities continue to scour for evidence after his arrest Thursday in the 12-year…

nypost.com

Designer recalls chilling chat with Gilgo Beach slay suspect Rex Heuermann, who laughed at how ‘anyone could be a serial killer’

A shaken Westchester County woman says the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer casually chatted her up about the slayings months before his arrest — and laughed when she said anyone could be a …

nypost.com

“I just thought he was an architect who thought he was like God’s gift to this world, but no, he’s literally a serial killer,” Vidal said

NYPD will use DNA obtained off pizza crust to possibly link Gilgo Beach suspect to cold cases: sources

“His DNA was never in the system until they arrested him,” the source said. “Now we can compare it to other crimes.”

nypost.com

 

[KindMind1ofA]

Was this killer a duck hunter (as suggested by a WS member years ago) or do most people have duck blind burlap lying around at home??

I haven't heard about duck hunting, but in one interview he mentioned competition rifle.. so maybe there's an intersection there.

 

[iamshadow21]

Long Island serial killings arrest brings pain, relief to victims’ families

Prosecutors say the suspect Rex Heuermann had gone online to ask, “Why hasn’t the Long Island serial killer been caught?”

www.smh.com.au

I didn't realise Megan's mother had passed away, too.

I knew about Mari because of the tragic circumstances, but I didn't know about Lorraine.

 

[fred&edna]

This is a long shot but I live in Florida and I have been following the Gilgo case but a few years back on I95 we a a string of murder ppl on the side of the road starting in Port Saint Lucie all the way to vero beach do you think this could be connected to Gilgo

There's been talk on the old WS threads about possible LISK connections to FL and NJ. I really don't know. My gut feeling is that RH isn't involved in any FL murders but then again... nothing would surprise me.

 

[otto]

Murdered or accidental death of SG has been hotly debated by many WS members over the years. So I understand your thinking.

Her purse was found in one spot, her phone in another, her lip gloss, her pants in another. None of these were in a "trail" formation (as if she was dropping things as she moved). Doesn't make any sense for a police chief to suggest she just lost her pants. jmo

... except if Shannan was suffering an episode and was disoriented. Has it been reported what she was wearing when she approached three houses near the home of her client? Where was her jacket found?

How long was she with the client. There is no evidence that she was murdered, drowned, drugged, or that she did not die by accident. Her hyoid bone is missing. Did she remove and toss her belongings, or did the marsh water separate her from her belongings.

It doesn't seem surprising that the hyoid, held in place with muscles and ligaments, is missing after a body has been in the marsh for 19 months.

"The hyoid bone is a horseshoe-shaped structure located at root of the tongue in the anterior neck between the lower jaw and the largest cartilage of the larynx - the thyroid cartilage. The hyoid has no direct articulation with other bones; it is only connected distantly to other bones by muscles or ligaments."

 

[iamshadow21]

There's been talk on the old WS threads about possible LISK connections to FL and NJ. I really don't know. My gut feeling is that RS isn't involved in any FL murders but then again... nothing would surprise me.

I'm unconvinced about anything related to the I95 cases... it's just been used by multiple serial offenders for so damn long to find and dispose of victims. It's a major thoroughfare, so many people who travel it aren't even local. Kind of the opposite to a stretch of Long Island beach that involves crossing bridges from the mainland for access.

However, if we discover that RH has strong ties to Florida and the I95, I may reassess.

Edit: On reflection, I think I was confusing the I95 with the I45, which is in a different part of the country, but I still am not convinced the I95 cases are connected with RH. (Please forgive the mix-up, I am very tired and have been dealing with a migraine all day.)

MOO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Rex Huermann was president of his own Architectural firm and has managed to fool co-workers and family for at least the past 15 years. Disappearing out of town for extended periods of time might have tipped people off. It's always a possibility he had jobs out of town but as of right now I am only seeing an active license to practice in NYS but that doesn't mean he didn't have out of state licenses in the past. As of right now, based off of what we know so far, it doesn't seem likely. That said, who knows... ya know?

Where has it been reported that he was out of town for extended periods of time? I haven't seen that. Thank you.

 

[otto]

Is Rex Heuermann also responsible for the Manorville murders but, as a designer, he switched it up?

Maybe he started by being safe and leaving bodies farther away from home? The typical reason for removing hands is to delay identification of the body. He removed the hands and found a new place to hide bodies while searching for a closer-to-home place to hide the hands? In 2000, the body was found in Manorville. In 2010 the hands were found near other bodies.

Did he decide that camouflage burlap in the poison ivy on the beach would eliminate the need to cut off hands, so as a designer he modified his technique for murdering escorts? Is he a serial killer who dumped bodies closer to home over time?

 

[Ursamajr]

Where has it been reported that he was out of town for extended periods of time? I haven't seen that. Thank you.

My poor wording perhaps? I was trying to say that if he were to leave town for extended periods of time friends and family might have been tipped off to something going on. They weren't so I doubt he took long jaunts out of town.