Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[iamshadow21]

It may have already been stated here, but I had to play catch up and skip to page 40 on this 2nd thread. If you have never seen the Killing Season it's worth the watch. The Time Out Dolls were discussed in one of the episodes.

I would love to watch it but I am struggling to find a way to access it from my location (Australia). It's kind of infuriating, because I have pay tv (Foxtel) which actually has A&E, but there's no The Killing Season when I search for it, so I can only assume it hasn't been released out here. Very annoying.

 

[Snail-Overlord]

As a non-american... you have a function to report that a house in your neighbourhood is not as pretty as the neighbours would want to? Wow.

This is just so to the other extreme from the "This is PRIVATE land, no-one may exist on MY land" that is usually portrayed about the US, that I have a hard time understanding how these two extremes can co-exist in the same cultural sphere.

Which one of these attitudes is more common? Could this house have been reported? What happens if a house is reported and would a NYC architect know of ways to get around such reports?

I’m American and to my knowledge it’s normally a code enforcement issue, which is typically left up to local (i.e. city or county) governments. There are also Homeowners’ associations, but that isn’t a legal thing and just depends on the neighborhood and whether or not it has one.

I live in the Atlanta area and have lived in both Fulton and Cobb county. In my experience, Cobb county was far more stringent with code enforcement. I was once given a warning because my car was apparently parked facing the wrong direction. My landlord was given a warning for having a lawnmower visible from the street, lol. So even in neighboring counties it’s different.

Where I’m living now, it’s not as strict on private property, but there are still lots of regulations. I could see a house like this being flagged where I live if someone reported it.

JMO.

 

[Sillybilly]

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According to the person who uploaded these online, they had them in their stash for "years". So, not recent that I know of.

We need a link to an approved source for those images please.

 

[x_files]

Giuliani showing up sending red flags to anyone else.? Odd definitely, could it be more though??

Looking for a photo op. or he knows him.

 

[Justice101]

If he was trying NOT to stand out he could have had his front porch repaired and painted and look less likely to draw attention to himself. His mindsight seems very odd to me and lacks artistic sense. His neighbor's houses looked nice.
It doesn't take a lot of money to repaint the trim instead of faded red & green.
I have questions if he was indeed an architect after all. My architect friends are Type A very meticulous in their clothing, hair appearances, and esp their houses look like museums.
He seems more like a used car salesman of "architects" for NYC!

I agree. He looks like he carved out a niche in building codes resolution. He probably didn't actually design any buildings or houses.... probably failed in those endeavors and was just in Manhattan in order to be close and available to other businesses there for codes resolution consulting.

Also, he obviously spent his money (assuming the business was profitable) on guns. 200 guns X $300 per gun or more means $60,000 that he could have used to spruce up the place.

I'll bet his wife was verbally abused and just broken down to a emotionless nub.

Now, she questions if she really knows the man. He killed while she was out of town. WTAF?

 

[Justice101]

Yes, we know perps do often insert themselves into an investigation. Or perhaps an aging man with a new show to promote reminding people he's still alive and revelent . . . creepy and perhaps time will tell.

Actually, how many thousands of people have done search on the Gilgo Beach murders? Or come on here WS true crime? That doesn't stand out. Now if he searched what material do you use to camouflaged bodies burried, well then....

 

[TootsieFootsie]

As a non-american... you have a function to report that a house in your neighbourhood is not as pretty as the neighbours would want to? Wow.

Same here as another non US citizen.

The usual thing that people get reported for here is not cutting your grass, and you can get a letter from your council ordering you to do it.

Other things would be neighbours complaining of trees hanging over, or water leaking from next doors gutters.

On seeing the photos I have to say I expected it to look much worse the way it's being talked about.

It doesn't really look terribly unkempt to me. Or that bad, in my opinion.

 

[Ursamajr]

Millions of Americans collect firearms, and some have large collections. It's no different that collecting coins, or fine wines, or matchbox cars, or whatever.

I don't know if I agree with that. Coins, fine wines, matchbox cars... none of those have the purpose of causing direct damage to a target.

 

[DS2021]

I would love to watch it but I am struggling to find a way to access it from my location (Australia). It's kind of infuriating, because I have pay tv (Foxtel) which actually has A&E, but there's no The Killing Season when I search for it, so I can only assume it hasn't been released out here. Very annoying.

Do you have access to hulu

 

[Justice101]

Same here as another non US citizen.

The usual thing that people get reported for here is not cutting your grass, and you can get a letter from your council ordering you to do it.

Other things would be neighbours complaining of trees hanging over, or water leaking from next doors gutters.

On seeing the photos I have to say I expected it to look much worse the way it's being talked about.

It doesn't really look terribly unkempt to me. Or that bad, in my opinion.

Yeh, it sort of looks like the "poor" house on the street. Everyone's got one .... but it is relative to the houses around it.. In my city in the Southeast of the US, you can report only building code violations / nefarious activities.. they will investigate and contact for that... but for just being sort of run down, they won't contact them.

 

[iamshadow21]

I do not believe RH murdered Shannan. IF she was murdered (which I am not convinced she was) the chances of her making that 911 about the men she was with, running into two additional, possible sketchy men that night, then somehow winding up with a serial killer after all that who murders her and dumps her right in the area she was last seen in is just beyond improbable. If she was murdered, it was by one of the men she was with that night.

As for the rest - does anyone know when RH moved to his current home? My understanding is he was previously married and lived in NJ for a time. I would imagine any additional body dump sites he has would have been in the area he was actively living and knew well.

The only one of the bodies found I doubt he was involved in with was Peaches and her daughter. IMO, the daughter being involved points to the killer intimately knowing Peaches. Most likely her current or ex-partner. I just don't see a scenario in which an individual who is arranging dates with prostitutes to murder them ends up also murdering a small child. I would assume Peaches was not bringing her small daughter on these calls and if she did, I think it's more likely the killer would have simply called off the night or let her go once seeing her daughter there. The daughter was found very close to Valerie Mack's partial remains which is the hold up for me but I feel as though that's more likely a coincidence.

As for Fire Island Jane Doe, Valerie Mack and Jessica Taylor I think they could be RH victims or they could not be. Valerie Mack and Jessica Taylor were almost certainly done by the same person. Fire Island is a bit more unknown.

Did RH simply stop murdering after the bodies were found in 2010? Possibly. Seeing his victims be discovered could have spooked him and stopped him from committing any more murders.

Or...

He found a new dump site.

Someone who was talking earlier on the threads also mentioned that in the course of their work they'd known people who'd lost custody of their kids because they'd had clients in their home while the kids where home or taken kids with them on out calls because they didn't have a babysitter. So I don't think we can assume that if Peaches was a sex worker that she wouldn't have had her child with her if she was working. Even if she was working out of a hotel room, she may have put the baby in the bathroom with some toys, or if she had a car she used on an out call, left her in the car with the windows cracked, asleep. It's not ideal, to say the least, but people trying to survive do the best they can.

One thing we know for sure is that RH was looking up CSAM, violent stuff involving bruising and crying. I don't think that a child being in the mix would be a deal-breaker for him, given that search history.

MOO

 

[DSCrime]

Just catching up on the news and this thread. Glad he's finally been caught! This video features a criminologist who did a profile of the killer back in 2011:

 

[x_files]

Rex Heuermann refused to let interior designer measure locked room

Interior designer Katherine Shepherd told DailyMail.com how Rex Heuermann did not allow her to enter a room in his basement at his Massapequa Park in 2005.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Shepherd, 47, who worked with Heuermann for five years, spent three hours assessing his Massapequa Park, New York home for a renovation project in 2005 – just one of several close interactions she had had with him that have kept her awake at night since his arrest last week.

Speaking DailyMail.com, she described how she had developed a friendly, working relationship with the 59-year-old architect who is seen mingling with the interior designers and colleagues in exclusive photos published for the first time.

She revealed Heuermann even once took her to a firing range in the Bronx where he taught her how to fire a 9mm handgun.

On another occasion when she slipped on ice, Heuermann accompanied her to a hospital and then back to her apartment in Manhattan where he gave her meds.

Shepherd worked with Heuermann, off and on, from 2002 to 2007 and shared office space with him for two of those years in Manhattan, where he ran an architectural firm.

She would regularly travel with him to job sites as a freelance interior designer. At the time she found him smart and mostly friendly, if socially awkward.

She now likens him to a real-life Dexter, the Showtime character who led a double life as a serial killer.

'He's just like Dexter,' she told DailyMail.com. 'You'd never know if you met him. Dexter was also super normal and then he had that other side.'

The character Dexter was intelligent, a snappy dresser, likable, charismatic, and handsome, nothing like this putz. The only thing in common led to a double life that involved killing. That's it.

 

[NicMed329]

I would love to watch it but I am struggling to find a way to access it from my location (Australia). It's kind of infuriating, because I have pay tv (Foxtel) which actually has A&E, but there's no The Killing Season when I search for it, so I can only assume it hasn't been released out here. Very annoying.

It is also on Discovery+ and MAYBE Amazon Prime? If you have a "broken firestick" that's how I stream all the tings I can't get.

 

[iamshadow21]

Do you have access to hulu

I don't have hulu. I've never used it.

 

[MrsG728]

Same here as another non US citizen.

The usual thing that people get reported for here is not cutting your grass, and you can get a letter from your council ordering you to do it.

Other things would be neighbours complaining of trees hanging over, or water leaking from next doors gutters.

On seeing the photos I have to say I expected it to look much worse the way it's being talked about.

It doesn't really look terribly unkempt to me. Or that bad, in my opinion.

So, in the township where RH lives, you can file a complaint about a house whose grass is too long or if the structure is falling. In order to do something about an unkempt property, there has to be a clear code violation (grass longer than 7 inches) standing water, unsecured pools, rats/vermin, or a structure that is endangering people, pets or neighbors. The violator gets a fine, and from what I understand, accumulating unpaid fines are added to property tax charges. We aren't required to report it, and there are plenty of houses that look this way in some neighborhoods. from the TOH website: " Report a Housing-Related Issue - Report a housing-related issue to the Town of Hempstead. You may report an illegal apartment, tall grass, an unfenced pool, an unsafe structure, and more."

 

[x_files]

The Dexter comparison annoys me. Dexter had a “code” to only kill bad guys. (With some exceptions)

thank you BIG difference from killing petite little women.

 

[FromGermany1]

I believe they knew about the encounter in Brady Park because the victim filed a police report, so there's documentation of the encounter. If he was being tailed 24/7 detectives already knew about this encounter and may have pushed up the need to arrest sooner than expected. JMO

Hopefully the detectives know also, why RH was so alarmingly dirty, when he approached the young woman. He must have done something mysterious there in the woods/in the park. I assume, he didn't just get himself free plants.

 

[x_files]

Ummmm, this is extremely odd. I wonder if by any chance Rudy was part of the Oak Beach party crowd. MOO/Speculation only.

If so then this runs much deeper...

 

[fred&edna]

I'm still puzzled about his hair. Maybe others are correct and that is his real hair. If it is... what kind of glue was he using to slick it down in his selfies, promo pics, video, etc... E6000? And, what happened to his sideburns in those pics?? (Sorry, his hair bugs me, lol)