Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[NicMed329]

I took the time to compile a list of all building permits (available here) obtained by Rex Heuremann during his career (spanning from 1992 to present day) to see if there are any discernible patterns between his work and the murders and noticed a few things.

From 1992 to 2023, RH obtained 238 building permits -- all within the 5 boroughs of NYC -- for various projects ranging from demolitions and porch construction to entire gut renovations of large-scale apartment buildings and commercial spaces. Most of the permits he obtained were in Manhattan, with a large proportion of them in Midtown.

Throughout the 31 years he has been a practicing architect, there was only one year in which he didn't obtain a single permit -- 1996. RH did not obtain a single new permit between December 1995 and August 1997, despite not having any large ongoing projects which could conceivably account for the lack of new permit applications. Interestingly, the bodies of the Fire Island Jane Doe and the dismembered torso of an unidentified woman known as "Peaches" were found during this professional hiatus on April 20, 1996 and June 28, 1997, respectively.<modsnip - not an approved source>

Additionally, on March 5, 2007, RH obtained a permit for a $200,000 contract at 115 1290 1st Avenue in Manhattan. While I was unable to obtain any information about when construction at the site actually commenced, it is worth noting that 1290 1st Avenue is less than a mile from the 59th Street Bridge, where Maureen Brainard-Barnes' cellphone pinged at around 11:56 p.m. on July 9, 2007 <modsnip>

I have been going down a rabbit hole and looking into missing persons and unidentified persons on NamUs to see if anything stood out from mid 90s to current. This is me again thinking out loud JMO there were several people I saw on NamUs that were buried under cement in buildings who were unearthed during construction years later. RH being an architect and having access to building during construction made me start thinking wild things!! JMO maybe it’s time for bed IDK!

 

[iamshadow21]

Wow! Great work. You might send it to the task force.

If we've thought of it, they've definitely thought of it. They started looking into this guy over a year ago. They'll know about every building he's had any involvement with by now.

MOO

 

[Dhighsmith]

We have heard from a few neighbors and colleagues who have given interviews, and a classmate or two, and over time we are beginning to hear from more people who knew RH. I am guessing that a lot of people who knew him in some way are reluctant to come forward and be associated with an accused serial killer, which is understandable.

I wouldn't expect to hear from his family members, other than through his attorney or their own representative.

I do think you have raised some good questions about RH, but they are very personal and likely stayed private to him. Colleagues who worked with him and knew him have said that he had a clear separation between his professional and private lives.


JMO.

I absolutely agree, IMO social media has significant impact on people speaking out, recent arrests in both Delphi and Idaho cases have everyone questioning where’s their family and friends? There’s those people who are most likely caught off guard from the shock of knowing suspect when news media corners them (co-workers, associates, and neighbors) and then those temporarily transformed into news magnets by the sensationalized arrest wanting to share their personal experience. But, eventually both groups probably regret having spoken out publicly especially when social media track them down.

 

[weedemout]

Have you all discussed his mugshot? I have not had a chance to read all three threads. He really looks angry to me, like a FU kind of angry and a cross between yeah, I did it. What you gonna do about it.

 

[LaineyJ]

Watching the killing season. In episode 2, a man (cannot remember his name but he provides insight) says of the GB4, the killer is a collector.

Just… wild knowing he seemingly collects guns. “Collecting” just gets me even if it wasn’t meant the way I’m taking it.

Also, did not know Maureen’s friend may have gotten a call from LISK. Highly recommend watching this for those who haven’t yet. Thanks to those who mentioned it in these threads.

 

[Mzsnazzi]

or is there high levels of LEAD in the paint when they were young?

Montauk boys. Look it up

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann allegedly had only one question for his Long Island jailkeepers as he was being processed after his arrest last week.

“Is it in the news?”

Accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann allegedly had just one question for his jailers

Rex Heuermann — a 59-year-old hulking architect charged with murdering three women and suspected in the death of a fourth — asked about his newfound notoriety after getting picked up ou…

nypost.com

 

[Vapor]

RH is currently on suicide watch in riverhead.. lets hope he makes it to august court appearance.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

“Rex Heuermann was a seasonal employee at Jones Beach State Park in [the] summer of 1981 and from 3/05/82 through 10/24/84,” the department said in a statement.

Accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann allegedly had just one question for his jailers

Rex Heuermann — a 59-year-old hulking architect charged with murdering three women and suspected in the death of a fourth — asked about his newfound notoriety after getting picked up ou…

nypost.com

Jones Beach is near Gilgo Beach. Maybe a local can tell us some more info about the beaches.

 

[crhedBngr]

“Gilgo Beach’ suspect owned land in Upstate

The Chester County Sheriff’s Office said it is now working with the Gilgo Beach Task Force and the FBI to gather evidence in Chester County relevant to the investigation.

The sheriff’s office said its involvement in the investigation predates Heuermann’s arrest.

Interesting.

JMVHO.

 

[fred&edna]

Accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann allegedly had only one question for his Long Island jailkeepers as he was being processed after his arrest last week.

“Is it in the news?”

Accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann allegedly had just one question for his jailers

Rex Heuermann — a 59-year-old hulking architect charged with murdering three women and suspected in the death of a fourth — asked about his newfound notoriety after getting picked up ou…

nypost.com

I wonder if being "in the news" polishes his ego??

 

[MrsPC]

Accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann allegedly had only one question for his Long Island jailkeepers as he was being processed after his arrest last week.

“Is it in the news?”

Accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann allegedly had just one question for his jailers

Rex Heuermann — a 59-year-old hulking architect charged with murdering three women and suspected in the death of a fourth — asked about his newfound notoriety after getting picked up ou…

nypost.com

Interesting in that same link:

"Meanwhile, the state Parks Department told The Post on Monday that Heuermann once worked at Jones Beach in Nassau County, LI.

“Rex Heuermann was a seasonal employee at Jones Beach State Park in [the] summer of 1981 and from 3/05/82 through 10/24/84,” the department said in a statement. “We have no further comment.”

 

[Deleted member 117884]

“Gilgo Beach’ suspect owned land in Upstate



Interesting.

JMVHO.

Very interesting, considering this sentence about upstate LE:

"The sheriff’s office said its involvement in the investigation predates Heuermann’s arrest."

 

[ArianeEmory]

“Gilgo Beach’ suspect owned land in Upstate



Interesting.

JMVHO.

Saw this mentioned on Reddit, couldn’t find a source link for the life of me.

I wonder how far this will go …

(To be specific, because some quoted info is getting lost, the Chester County, South Carolina’s sheriff’s office has issued a news release that they will be assisting with gathering evidence … in South Carolina.)

 

[Dhighsmith]

I have been going down a rabbit hole and looking into missing persons and unidentified persons on NamUs to see if anything stood out from mid 90s to current. This is me again thinking out loud JMO there were several people I saw on NamUs that were buried under cement in buildings who were unearthed during construction years later. RH being an architect and having access to building during construction made me start thinking wild things!! JMO maybe it’s time for bed IDK!

Anything is possible, many believe Suzanne Morphew was hidden away in similar fashion by the man she married (he doesn’t deserve title of husband).
JMO, I’m actually starting to think that maybe his occupation and office location are falsely perceived as being highly connected and actively involved with construction projects, earning him massive profits and success. When in actuality he’s small time with a few projects he crowned as architectural masterpieces after having acquired from his ability to manipulate- he’s an imposter and scammer who pretends to think highly of himself. Based just on limited info located of his outstanding income and property taxes along with pattern of personal injury lawsuits as well as investigations of business activity on property rehabs and RE losses- I’m not getting a vibe for a successful businessman who has the property or means to make someone completely disappear. I’m anxious to learn who is truly is, bring on the trial.

 

[LaineyJ]

Very interesting, considering this sentence about upstate LE:

"The sheriff’s office said its involvement in the investigation predates Heuermann’s arrest."

Wouldn’t that make sense though — he’s been on police radar, so seems they’d be searching in every aspect of his life including locations he’s lived or frequented. I would hope and assume they’ve been in contact with other relevant LE before the arrest, gathering as much information as possible.

Or is something going over my head here?

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Wouldn’t that make sense though — he’s been on police radar, so seems they’d be searching in every aspect of his life including locations he’s lived or frequented. I would hope and assume they’ve been in contact with other relevant LE before the arrest, gathering as much information as possible.

Or is something going over my head here?

Yes, it makes sense. But it's interesting as it is new info to us.

jmo

 

[iamshadow21]

Watching the killing season. In episode 2, a man (cannot remember his name but he provides insight) says of the GB4, the killer is a collector.

Just… wild knowing he seemingly collects guns. “Collecting” just gets me even if it wasn’t meant the way I’m taking it.

Also, did not know Maureen’s friend may have gotten a call from LISK. Highly recommend watching this for those who haven’t yet. Thanks to those who mentioned it in these threads.

That Peter guy says some interesting stuff sometimes, but some of his theories just don't work.

That the 'torso killer' was angry and 'competing' with LISK doesn't work.

You just have to look at the dates.

Most of the dismemberments happened when the GB4 weren't just not discovered yet, or not dead yet, but were in high school or even younger!

And the idea of the 'torso killer' moving partial human remains to the beach later doesn't really work, either, when you consider that some of the remains found were things like hands... which the small bones of would be impossible to find to move years after the event. Those get quickly lost and moved by small animals. We see that with Shannan, a much more recent victim - the only things they didn't find were small bones of her neck and some finger and toe bones.

I don't think there's anything to the partial remains being found some in Manorville and some at Gilgo other than the killer of these victims trying to create confusion and prevent identification. Some of these were in the mid-nineties. We're in the early days of DNA. Removing someone's head, hands, and identifying marks was still the best way to stop an identification, and we see that here. We see that with vics like Jessica Taylor, where her tattoo was mutilated in addition to head and hands missing. By putting the head and hands a distance away, he was counting on the LE in those areas being subject to jurisdictional blindness and not making the connection, and he was right. It took DNA to connect those partial remains to each other.

The Asian (possibly transgender) Doe was on the beach five to ten years, so before Maureen was killed and placed there. And couldn't have been moved there later, because otherwise their skeleton would have been disarticulated, and we know Asian Doe was clothed because that's how we know they were possibly trans. Their clothing is described as 'female'. They were, IMO, deposited there between 2000-2005ish, and remained exactly where they were left until they were found after the GB4. The idea that they were placed there later out of anger to 'mark territory' just doesn't stand up to any kind of scrutiny, IMO.

MOO

 

[fred&edna]

That Peter guy says some interesting stuff sometimes, but some of his theories just don't work.

That the 'torso killer' was angry and 'competing' with LISK doesn't work.

You just have to look at the dates.

Most of the dismemberments happened when the GB4 weren't just not discovered yet, or not dead yet, but were in high school or even younger!

And the idea of the 'torso killer' moving partial human remains to the beach later doesn't really work, either, when you consider that some of the remains found were things like hands... which the small bones of would be impossible to find to move years after the event. Those get quickly lost and moved by small animals. We see that with Shannan, a much more recent victim - the only things they didn't find were small bones of her neck and some finger and toe bones.

I don't think there's anything to the partial remains being found some in Manorville and some at Gilgo other than the killer of these victims trying to create confusion and prevent identification. Some of these were in the mid-nineties. We're in the early days of DNA. Removing someone's head, hands, and identifying marks was still the best way to stop an identification, and we see that here. We see that with vics like Jessica Taylor, where her tattoo was mutilated in addition to head and hands missing. By putting the head and hands a distance away, he was counting on the LE in those areas being subject to jurisdictional blindness and not making the connection, and he was right. It took DNA to connect those partial remains to each other.

The Asian (possibly transgender) Doe was on the beach five to ten years, so before Maureen was killed and placed there. And couldn't have been moved there later, because otherwise their skeleton would have been disarticulated, and we know Asian Doe was clothed because that's how we know they were possibly trans. Their clothing is described as 'female'. They were, IMO, deposited there between 2000-2005ish, and remained exactly where they were left until they were found after the GB4. The idea that they were placed there later out of anger to 'mark territory' just doesn't stand up to any kind of scrutiny, IMO.

MOO

Was that Peter Brendt? He also posted here on WS.

 

[iamshadow21]

Was that Peter Brendt? He also posted here on WS.

I'd have to rewatch the episode to check, and right now, my partner's playing the Switch, so maybe? Sounded European, maybe German or Austrian to my very uneducated ear.

Don't have a problem with him having the ideas that people who profile have! Do have a problem with his timeline. The dates don't work. But there is room for everyone here at WS!

MOO