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I'm not sure why exactly, but her account doesn't ring true to me.

For one thing, why would a woman in her mid-twenties accept a date from then 49-year-old RH? He wasn't exactly a looker.

That might sound shallow, but I was a woman in my mid-twenties once.
I think we're going to see a lot of that going forward. Some people just want their fifteen minutes of fame and we're going to have to be careful about what we believe.
 
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I'm not sure why exactly, but her account doesn't ring true to me.

For one thing, why would a woman in her mid-twenties accept a date from then 49-year-old RH? He wasn't exactly a looker.

That might sound shallow, but I was a woman in my mid-twenties once.
I thought the same thing when I saw her video. At that age, a lot of women might even be embarrassed to be seen out on a date with a man like him. He was awkward, much older and not exactly attractive.
 
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I'm not sure why exactly, but her account doesn't ring true to me.

For one thing, why would a woman in her mid-twenties accept a date from then 49-year-old RH? He wasn't exactly a looker.

That might sound shallow, but I was a woman in my mid-twenties once.
Dating site.
possibly a free meal.
who knows..
 
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I'm not sure why exactly, but her account doesn't ring true to me.

For one thing, why would a woman in her mid-twenties accept a date from then 49-year-old RH? He wasn't exactly a looker.

That might sound shallow, but I was a woman in my mid-twenties once.
I could be wrong, but her account didn't ring true with me, either.

JMO.
 
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The whole "he was on food stamps" thing doesn't come as a surprise to me because this guy sounds like he was greedy and money-motivated because he had some special things he liked to spend his money on, and he wasn't gonna let pesky necessities like paying for food or repairing his house get in the way of his special things...
*shudders*
MOO
 
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Making a quick clarification. We actually learned investigators confiscated more than 200 guns from inside the home.
tysm for transcribing all the tweets.

that is a truly insane amount of guns. the creepy sounding private basement room might've legitimately been ALL guns as he stated to a coworker.
I have confirmed that Heuermann owns at least four lots of land in Chester County, approximately 22 acres or rural land. He also owns a condo near Las Vegas, Nevada. I have reached out to Las Vegas Metro Police to see if they are assisting in the investigation. No word yet.

Already posted earlier:
Wow. Just heard back from Las Vegas Metro PD. They tell me they are aware of #RexHeuermann's connection to Las Vegas and are reviewing all of their unsolved cases to see if there is any possibility he is involved. This investigation really is taking off across the country

https://twitter.com/alcaprari23
I hope they check Atlantic City bc my gut instinct tells me he's a gambler.
I also haven't heard yet that body parts are missing from those four, though the police said they are searching for some.
Some early murder victims were dismembered.

What freaked Brass out most about Heuermann?

He knew about a victim whose death, at the time of their date, hadn't been publicized yet, she said.

"So, I don't really know where to totally begin with this," Brass began, nervously describing the date in Monday's TikTok post.

"It was anywhere from 2014 to 2016," she said.
"It was not just him," she said, adding that Heuermann's descriptions leads her to believe now that, "there were other people involved."

"He is taking the fall though, I think, for all of them," she said in the post.


The architect was very detailed, she said of his knowledge of the Gilgo Beach case. And as he spoke, he seemed "like he was reliving it in his head," she said.

"He seemed like, excited. Like it peaked his interest. He sat up straighter."
 
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The whole "he was on food stamps" thing doesn't come as a surprise to me because this guy sounds like he was greedy and money-motivated because he had some special things he liked to spend his money on, and he wasn't gonna let pesky necessities like paying for food or repairing his house get in the way of his special things...
*shudders*
MOO

Common, easier to do in NY for folks who know how to work the system. I witnessed all manner of scams when I lived there.

My guess would be they milked the step-son's disability status. I've seen it here in IN as well, but nothing on the scale of NY. Surpised RH didn't have people paying rent, in the basement.
 
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What freaked Brass out most about Heuermann?

He knew about a victim whose death, at the time of their date, hadn't been publicized yet, she said.

"So, I don't really know where to totally begin with this," Brass began, nervously describing the date in Monday's TikTok post.

"It was anywhere from 2014 to 2016," she said.

I'm confused by what she means "He knew about a victim whose death, at the time of their date, hadn't been publicized yet, she said." Especially b/c she mentions that their date was "anywhere from 2014 to 2016".

All the bodies along Gilgo Beach & surroundings were found by end of 2011, including Shannan Gilbert.

Not sure what she means...at all. The only thing I can think of is if she's suggesting that he knew the identity of a victim that wasn't publicized yet, like Valerie Mack who was only id in 2020. But that was way past their date, and if that was the case wouldn't you run to the police? If I went on a date with a creepy guy, he said things that later turned out to be true about a crime, I'd be talking to detectives asap
 
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The simple and sad answer is that he (and other men like this) just hate women. They see us as objects for their pleasure - whatever that looks like to them - and they don't see us as complex human beings. The fact that he targeted sex workers also makes me think he thought poorly of them and maybe saw them as less of a "loss" because of their line of work.Its extremely depressing.

ETA: anybody capable of these crimes also is likely to be a psychopath and just completely lack empathy, especially for those outside their families.

BBM.

To add to this, he called one of his victim's sister (I'm spacing out on which one) to assure them that her sister was a "🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬."

Sadistic and extremely misogynistic.
 
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The simple and sad answer is that he (and other men like this) just hate women. They see us as objects for their pleasure - whatever that looks like to them - and they don't see us as complex human beings. The fact that he targeted sex workers also makes me think he thought poorly of them and maybe saw them as less of a "loss" because of their line of work. Its extremely depressing.

ETA: anybody capable of these crimes also is likely to be a psychopath and just completely lack empathy, especially for those outside their families.
If he had empathy for anyone INSIDE his family, I would think it was his daughter and that’s it. He brought her into “his world” as far as his business and the only reason he probably wanted to see her do well is because he sees her as an extension of himself since she is his only biological child.

I bet the relationship with his wife deteriorated over the years into more of a roommate situation rather than a loving marriage. He probably controlled all the finances and hid a lot of their money troubles from her. He seemed to be out of the house all hours of the day and night and she probably never questioned it because she was conditioned not to or just didn’t care anymore. She traveled a lot without him. It’s surprising sometimes how two people that live under the same roof can live vastly separate lives. I bet she became a shell of the person she was when they first met.
 
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Yes! That's what I'm referring too they thought Dauhner was exposed to high levels of lead too. It's a theory.

I'm confused
you think lead affects development and turns people into serial killers?
who is Dauhner?
and what does it have to do with the Montauk boys, who I thought were lost at sea
 
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She (and he) may have also ben heavy drinkers, etc. You never know.

are you saying they maybe spent money on booze so didn't have money for food?
 
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thanks I'm way back on page 7 trying to get caught up but missed that piece of info
Actually today, before your post, I wondered if it was just the guns that were locked up, and if I remembered correctly about the room being locked.
So your post made me look again at something that was niggling away at me.
 
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I can't seem to figure out or have yet to read how RH's wife's hair was at the crime scene, or what is the connection? If his family was out of town during the killings, how did a strand or two of the wife's hair come into play. Is there thoughts that the victims were taken back to the house, or just trying to piece that together. I mean it can lead to a theory that there is more to this story than what we know... Just some thoughts.

it would've been on his clothing, body, or implements (burlap, tools,tape, weapons etc.) that he used IMO
 
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So easy for hairs to get places.

Just yesterday as I was making my coffee, I noticed a strand of my long hair floating on top!

I made a fresh one :)
 
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So easy for hairs to get places.

Just yesterday as I was making my coffee, I noticed a strand of my long hair floating on top!

I made a fresh one :)

I found one this morning in my TOOTHBRUSH!

And I don't even have particularly long or thick hair.
 
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So, RH was not yet charged in the murder of MBB, but that seems like it might happen in the very near future. MBB was very likely his first victim (certainly first of the famed Gilgo 4 predating the other three by two years). Its worth noting that the belt with the "WH" initial (presumably belonging to his late father William Heuerman), was taken off the body of MBB, as the others were mentioned being bound by duct tape and not belts. According to the bail document; the buckle of that "WH" belt had the hair of RH's wife on it - meaning it was probably from the house where they both resided and not stored away on some closet or storage bin or storage unit that his wife did not frequent. The belt was out in plain sight in their house to the point where a hair of his wife's could thankfully find its way on it. If the belt was in plain sight, one would think the "WH" initials would be seen at some point by anyone in the house visiting, or otherwise. The photos of the initials were all over the TV and newspaper the days after the SCPD released those photos. A friend of mine in SC even saw it on the news as did its his dad too.
Also interesting in the MBB case, is that she is the only one of the four not associated with the duck blind camouflage burlap. We know from the bail docs that it mentions only 3 of the 4 girls in burlap and that two of the victims had hairs removed from the burlap (Waterman and Costello mentioned by name). Furthermore, we know that canine unit PO who initially found the Barthelemy body specifically mentioned 'disintegrated burlap'. So that leaves MBB as the sole outlier. She was two full ears prior to the other 3 girls, bound with three belts instead of duct tape, and picked up from NYC (not Long Island motels like the other girls). The use of a family object like a custom belt hints that RH grabbed what was laying around in a pinch, and perhaps what happened to MBB was not planned for and his initial killing was not as premeditated as other years later. MOO. Anyone who googles a picture of the duck-blind camo burlap and is familiar with the brush on the side of Ocean parkway will see an absolutely perfect match and one that clearly shows a well thought out and premeditated choice. The duck blind camo isn't your typical army camo, it matches the tans and brown grasses of ocean marsh brush identically (see photo attached) - and is designed to do so as that is where these duck blinds typically are located. We see a killer evolving, preparing for his next kills, fine tuning, being a little more meticulous, but luckily not meticulous enough.

WH was his grandfather
and the hair could have been anywhere on his person and made it's way to the belt when he used it (for strangling them?)
 

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