• #3,981
A soundproof room?

I just...I mean, think about the implications of that.

Unless he is has a recording studio he has a lot of explaining to do!
 
  • #3,982
I so wish we could see the look on his face when he was arrested and realized.....they know.

jmo
 
  • #3,983
So, let's see. Who do we believe? The experts who saw the evidence or the experts who are providing the media with quotes?

Btw, I couldn't see any experts in your second article. Just what the journalist said without offering any source.


A lot of experts are wading into this discussion, yet some of them don't even know the timeline stretches back to the 90s
 
  • #3,984
Kinda makes sense that he purchased it from his mother if he was doing bad things there at a young age. “Keep it in the family”, so to say, instead of selling it to a stranger.

I wonder if that’s why the house is in such a dilapidated condition, maybe he never wanted construction crews/plumbers/electricians on the property if it was totally avoidable.

Yep. He was protecting whatever is/was there.
 
  • #3,985
I actually agree... it doesn't make much sense to transport victims in a boat. But ??
In the documentary linked here they report that he threw them from the vehicle, this is different to the aE documentary which gave the impression they were deep in the reeds
 
  • #3,986
So, let's see. Who do we believe? The experts who saw the evidence or the experts who are providing the media with quotes?

Btw, I couldn't see any experts in your second article. Just what the journalist said without offering any source.
The article confirmed that those in LE have long believed.
She's basically just saying that the MO is different. Which doesn't mean anything really.
what do you believe is RH’s signature? MO does evolve but the signature is always present. I believe his signature was in his posing and disposal of the remains. There was nothing else that’s has been released anyway that is unique. I also believe this is why they have yet to link him to the non-gb4. If they had any evidence, he’d be charged or he will be soon. We will see.
 
  • #3,987
A soundproof room?
He could have gagged them.
used power tools if he was the one who dismembered the others without raising the alarm..
prolly building a nice greenhouse in yard at same time so digging would not have been anything out of the ordinary either.. aaaargh

i wonder whether they found any tape recordings, videos, photographs?
 
  • #3,988
Unless he is has a recording studio he has a lot of explaining to do!

It was reported he had searched for extreme porn sites. I hope he wasn’t uploading images/videos to them.
 
  • #3,989
It was reported he had searched for extreme *advertiser censored* sites. I hope he wasn’t uploading images/videos to them.

well, if held Amber there for the summer, anything is possible.
 
  • #3,990
The article confirmed that those in LE have long believed.

what do you believe is RH’s signature? MO does evolve but the signature is always present. I believe his signature was in his posing and disposal of the remains. There was nothing else that’s has been released anyway that is unique. I also believe this is why they have yet to link him to the non-gb4. If they had any evidence, he’d be charged or he will be soon. We will see.
I think most of the professionals involved with this case believe that there are 2 different SK’s. I thought this was well known?
 
  • #3,991
The article confirmed that those in LE have long believed.

what do you believe is RH’s signature? MO does evolve but the signature is always present. I believe his signature was in his posing and disposal of the remains. There was nothing else that’s has been released anyway that is unique. I also believe this is why they have yet to link him to the non-gb4. If they had any evidence, he’d be charged or he will be soon. We will see.
Have to disagree re signature, it's not always present.

Over time, serial murderers may extend their activities outside of their comfort zone but only after building their confidence by executing several successful murders while avoiding detection by law enforcement authorities.

 
  • #3,992
I think most of the professionals involved with this case believe that there are 2 different SK’s. I thought this was well known?
I don't believe it's well known or accepted, actually.
 
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  • #3,994
I don't believe it's well known or accepted, actually.

Really? I am surprised by this.

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On one hand, Heuermann appears to be operating off of some serial killer textbook and seems like he should be reliably predictable. On the other hand, he's been operating as an active serial killer in one of the most densely populated and geographically restricted areas in the entire country. He might have been forced to change his MO because of the risk. This would make it hard for anyone - expert or not - to read into.

Bundy changed his MO because breaking and entering got a little too risky for his tastes.
Look up Carl Eugene Watts - that guys MO was all over the place.

IMO this might be another one of those times that Long Island as a unique physical location plays heavily into RH's story.
 
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  • #3,995
could have started at any age.
i see no reason for it to finish though.
FEAR once the bodies were discovered and the case interested people around the world. He knew what the stakes were if he were caught and this is a cowardly man.
 
  • #3,996
FEAR once the bodies were discovered and the case interested people around the world. He knew what the stakes were if he were caught and this is a cowardly man.
He was still contacting sWs though..
that is too close to the fire he would want to avoid if fear was his motivating factor.
I think a change in MO would be a more reasonable diversion...
 
  • #3,997
On one hand, Heuermann appears to be operating off of some serial killer textbook and seems like he should be reliably predictable. On the other hand, he's been operating as an active serial killer in one of the most densely populated and geographically restricted areas in the entire country. He might have been forced to change his MO because of the risk. This would make it hard for anyone - expert or not - to read into.

Bundy changed his MO because breaking and entering got a little too risky for his tastes.
Look up Carl Eugene Watts - that guys MO was all over the place.

IMO this might be another one of those times that Long Island as a unique physical location plays heavily into RH's story.
I’m not so hung up on the change of MO, that definitely happens. I also don’t think that the GB4 are his only victims. I do believe the GB4 are his only victims in that location. But, as you said, changing up MO’s can definitely make it difficult to figure out who is responsible for who and what. I truly hope RH talks. I would love for the UID to be identified. :(
 
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I’m not so hung up on the change of MO, that definitely happens. I also don’t think that the GB4 are his only victims. I do believe the GB4 are his only victims in that location. But, as you said, changing up MO’s can definitely make it difficult to figure out who is responsible for who and what. I truly hope RH talks.
Yeah, I also can't see the GB4 being his only. If they are able to link the AC4 to Heuermann I won't be shocked. As for the others found along Ocean Parkway... one minute I absolutely believe it was RH and the next, I question that. It feels both logical and illogical to think he might be responsible for all of them.

Edited to add: I'm not including SG.
 
  • #4,000
Yeah, I also can't see the GB4 being his only. If they are able to link the AC4 to Heuermann I won't be shocked. As for the others found along Ocean Parkway... one minute I absolutely believe it was RH and the next, I question that. It feels both logical and illogical to think he might be responsible for all of them.
Yup. This is me too. I am certain one day that he’s the only one and then the next day I am dead set that Bittrolff is responsible for the other victims. Lol I drive myself crazy.


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Edited: I also am not including SG as I don’t believe RH is involved with her.
 
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