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I reread it a few months ago, but it's been my constant companion since the story broke. Digital is great for some things, but sometimes it's just faster and easier to flick to the right chapter to get the answer you're looking for. Dates of certain things in the girls' timelines, it's been great for.

MOO
Have you made any connections in the text?
 
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I find the thought those are baby clothes just chilling. who would bury baby clothes? things are getting super weird if that's the case.

sinister and terrifying...not that any of us are shocked...but if anyone thought that the Peaches and her baby being his victim was far fetched...well maybe not huh? mOO
I wouldn't read too much into this. Although its definitely something of interest to investigators, it's also not beyond the norm for people to bury the trash instead of disposing of it. When I moved into my house, we dug for a pool and found trash in the ground with rotted bags. The trash was household items, old curtains, cardboard, plastic etc...
 
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Some residents shared their angst about the daily chaos that has invaded their lives.

They said their driveways have been blocked, their lawns trampled and trash carelessly left behind.

One neighbor was outraged when they discovered a bottle filled with what appeared to be urine left near their property.


Others have tried to take the law into their own hands - one person going as far as to put up her own crime tape.

BBM - well, yeah. Its NY.
 
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I’m wondering if any freezers or large refrigerator units were found. Or could he have used that vault for cooling, wouldn’t it be colder underground, even in the summer? Could he have killed his victims in the summer, stored them and then waited until winter to wrap them in burlap, like a Christmas tree, and discard them as debris like the lowdown dirty dog that he is. At least he left the/this cat alone for his poor wife to have as a companion. How terribly lonely she must have been.
 
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I’m wondering if any freezers or large refrigerator units were found. Or could he have used that vault for cooling, wouldn’t it be colder underground, even in the summer? Could he have killed his victims in the summer, stored them and then waited until winter to wrap them in burlap, like a Christmas tree, and discard them as debris like the lowdown dirty dog that he is. At least he left the/this cat alone for his poor wife to have as a companion. How terribly lonely she must have been.
That cat was lucky.
Very lucky.
 
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Have you made any connections in the text?
I'm not sure what you mean by connections - I've mainly been using it as a resource for dates, and for things like the condition of Shannan's remains, which it details towards the end of the book. If you mean connections to the person in custody, I haven't been doing that, though I probably will the next time I decide to read it in full. It will certainly colour my experience of reading it from this time on. The two times I'd read it before, I didn't know if we'd ever get an answer. Now, for four of the girls, we have one.

MOO
 
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Some residents shared their angst about the daily chaos that has invaded their lives.

They said their driveways have been blocked, their lawns trampled and trash carelessly left behind.

One neighbor was outraged when they discovered a bottle filled with what appeared to be urine left near their property.

Others have tried to take the law into their own hands - one person going as far as to put up her own crime tape.

BBM - well, yeah. Its NY.
I feel for the people whose lives have been upended. Somewhat.

And then I see that the problems they have are blocked driveways and trampled lawns, and all I can see when I close my eyes to breathe out very hard is a line of bodies along a beach, all of them young, one of them a toddler.

And I find it hard to care about someone's lawn.

MOO
 
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This x1000. Not to mention how low priority this case was for years because they were SW. I'm still stuck on how they weren't able to find him based off the tip of a Chevy Avalanche and a very tall man... in reality they weren't looking because of these women's line of work.

I can't find the quote now but I believe one of the early investigators said something along the lines of "People don't need to be worried because the victims were just SW"
This case wasn't resolved sooner because of a corrupt PC and the power he held. He is the reason the FBI was kicked off the case. It had very little to do with the SW's and more to do with JB (James Burke). It's ashame that these victim's were minimized in such a way as to be discounted as not very important people, but if that was the case here that's all on JB who had many of them himself. JMO
 
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I wouldn't read too much into this. Although its definitely something of interest to investigators, it's also not beyond the norm for people to bury the trash instead of disposing of it. When I moved into my house, we dug for a pool and found trash in the ground with rotted bags. The trash was household items, old curtains, cardboard, plastic etc...
It was common in “the olden days” for people to bury trash.

Also, while not super common, there have many occasions where Native American burial sites/bones/artifacts have been dug up all over Long Island
 
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Thank you! I'm not sure what I'm seeing. It doesn't look as though there's a top on it. Unless, of course, It's a dog kennel and it's upside down.
 
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I’m wondering if any freezers or large refrigerator units were found. Or could he have used that vault for cooling, wouldn’t it be colder underground, even in the summer? Could he have killed his victims in the summer, stored them and then waited until winter to wrap them in burlap, like a Christmas tree, and discard them as debris like the lowdown dirty dog that he is. At least he left the/this cat alone for his poor wife to have as a companion. How terribly lonely she must have been.
Freezers, maybe, but even in refrigerators or cold basements, bodies decompose. It'd be very, very difficult to hide that from other people in the house. (And I only say very, very difficult rather than impossible because of things like the killing of Eunsoon Jun.)

MOO
 
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I’m wondering if any freezers or large refrigerator units were found. Or could he have used that vault for cooling, wouldn’t it be colder underground, even in the summer? Could he have killed his victims in the summer, stored them and then waited until winter to wrap them in burlap, like a Christmas tree, and discard them as debris like the lowdown dirty dog that he is. At least he left the/this cat alone for his poor wife to have as a companion. How terribly lonely she must have been.
While our basement is considerably cooler in the summer than the rest of the house. It isn’t cool enough to keep bodies. We had a freezer with meat (for bbq - not human) that someone disconnected and I won’t go into detail. But you can imagine.
 
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Where can we watch the presser online? ty
 
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It was common in “the olden days” for people to bury trash.

Also, while not super common, there have many occasions where Native American burial sites/bones/artifacts have been dug up all over Long Island
It's still done in areas where people have been forced to recycle, I've seen it where I live. The limited can sizes have led people to bury their excess trash rather than pay exorbitant fees for the city/town trash bags. I live in a rural area though so maybe it's not prevalent elsewhere.
 
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Per News12…DA just said massive amount of evidence collected between all search locations. Nothing of significance found in back yard excavation.
 

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