Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Emilie D]

yes, and those States are DP states and I think as a thinker and a planner he would be well aware of this.

Yes, but he's arrogant and also didn't think he would get caught. I mean, it took them a decade so he had a lot of reason to believe in his skill set.

 

[minazoe]

He's an architect whose porch is held up by 2x4s, and who installed a vault in his basement, probably without a permit.

I think he likes rules, he just doesn't think they apply to him.

MOO

no doubt you are right..he is so arrogant..his family shopping with food stamps..he is above it all in every way..you are right..rules don't apply to him personally..he does what he wants. Even his home is anti-social..he's a sociopath.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Do any of these States still have the death penalty? That may give him more motivation to talk!

I believe they all do. MOO

 

[iamshadow21]

no doubt you are right..he is so arrogant..his family shopping with food stamps..he is above it all in every way..you are right..rules don't apply to him personally..he does what he wants. Even his home is anti-social..he's a sociopath.

The thing that I find ironic, is that he was angry with Amber and wanted 'credit' after she and her friends pulled the 'jealous/violent partner' scam on him, one of the oldest recorded cons in written history. A classic hundreds of years old, if not thousands.

And yet he himself has multiple car accident claims one after the other after the other, all for $5mil. He was just as much a con artist as they were. Out for what he could scam from other drivers to fund his lifestyle, his pleasures, by deception.

MOO

 

[stx722]

OR that they are being very thorough and checking EVERYTHING in order to determine whether it matters or not. IF RH's serial killer career did cover decades, there should be a lot to find. Wonder if they'll hold a press conference?

Is there a twitter link or news source confirming that Melissa's phone was used for harassment? That would help with ruling in, or out, the Atlantic City escort murders. If none of the victims' friends/family in Atlantic City were harassed after those escorts were murdered/vanished, maybe it's not the same suspect.

I'm curious about Florida, and his trips to re-locate his mom.

This info about harassing calls is in the court documents.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I believe they all do. MOO

Adding, New York does not, but OP asking about his property in other states.

 

[Pinkizzy]

A SW may have laughed at him and he took offences by killing other SW imo

How so, iyo? TIA

 

[Deleted member 117884]

The thing that I find ironic, is that he was angry with Amber and wanted 'credit' after she and her friends pulled the 'jealous/violent partner' scam on him, one of the oldest recorded cons in written history. A classic hundreds of years old, if not thousands.

And yet he himself has multiple car accident claims one after the other after the other, all for $5mil. He was just as much a con artist as they were. Out for what he could scam from other drivers to fund his lifestyle, his pleasures, by deception.

MOO

I think deception is what turns him on, in addition to causing and viewing (and possibly hearing) pain. I think he relishes being Mr. Rule Expert while breaking rules all the time without anyone knowing. Contrasts like that keep him going, in my non-expert armchair opinion.

Ogre.

jmo

 

[Friday13]

I think deception is what turns him on, in addition to causing and viewing (and possibly hearing) pain. I think he relishes being Mr. Rule Expert while breaking rules all the time without anyone knowing. Contrasts like that keep him going, in my non-expert armchair opinion.

Ogre.

jmo

I like this theory, I can definitely see that with him

 

[Warwick7]

Is there a twitter link or news source confirming that Melissa's phone was used for harassment? That would help with ruling in, or out, the Atlantic City escort murders. If none of the victims' friends/family in Atlantic City were harassed after those escorts were murdered/vanished, maybe it's not the same suspect.

I'm curious about Florida, and his trips to re-locate his mom.

It's in the Bail Document.

 

[Betty P]

I think they have to go through a lot of hoops..they have all her calls..but if they can see all the phones pinging in that area at that time .....but again I think it's not done without higher approval like a special warrant and probable cause??? just guessing but I think I heard this somewhere before as I have had this question many times, it's at an odd hour..it would be easier to catch an errant phone out there.....mOO

By the time they started finding bodies along Ocean Parkway, they had enough to get approval. Apparently, they did retrieve a lot of phone data, because some of it was used to arrest Rex H. The first investigation team probably didn't know how to use it, or saw things they couldn't explain.

It would be very interesting to know how far back those phone records and cell tower pings went. They had to at least go back to the time of Shannan's disappearance because LE were able to track the other victims cell phones. Those women were killed before Shannan. So, to answer my own question, they probably do have cell phone data from the night Shannan disappeared.

 

[Eaglette]

Man's view Prison officer (PO) -
if a prisoner clobbers a PO - a PO once told me they'll take out 3 crims.
Retribution.

Maybe (if insulted) RH did the same with sex workers

 

[dotr]

Is there a twitter link or news source confirming that Melissa's phone was used for harassment? That would help with ruling in, or out, the Atlantic City escort murders. If none of the victims' friends/family in Atlantic City were harassed after those escorts were murdered/vanished, maybe it's not the same suspect.

I'm curious about Florida, and his trips to re-locate his mom.

Mother of missing Buffalo woman helped kick-start investigation of serial killer of Gilgo Beach

In the summer of 2009, a 15-year-old Buffalo girl received disturbing phone calls from a man who taunted her about her missing older sister.

buffalonews.com

''In the summer of 2009, a 15-year-old Buffalo girl received disturbing phone calls from a man who taunted her about her missing older sister.
What made the calls especially scary was that the caller was using the cellphone owned by the missing woman, Melissa M. Barthelemy, 24.
At one point, according to police, the caller bragged that he had sexually assaulted Barthelemy and then killed her.
Today, those phone calls to Amanda Funderburg and other members of her Buffalo family are cited as important evidence in the murder case against accused serial killer Rex A. Heuermann, a Manhattan architect and Long Island resident.''

 

[Yemelyan]

Man's view Prison officer (PO) -
if a prisoner clobbers a PO - a PO once told me they'll take out 3 crims.
Retribution.

Maybe (if insulted) RH did the same with sex workers

I see where people are coming from with explanations/theories like this but I always wince a little when I see them because they come off - even if unintentionally - as a form of victim blaming. If only women didn't trick men out of money, if only women didn't insult men, if only women didn't laugh at men. If women didn't "make" men mad, then men wouldn't hurt them and kill them.

And I know that these explanations come up because we are all human and we understand the urge for retribution, but we don't understand very well the mechanisms whereby sexual urges can become entwined with a psychological desire to cause extreme pain up to and including death. But I think, regardless of what these victims did or what previous encounters with women were like, that the urge to hurt them and victimize them was mainly due to an internal need that the killer was looking to satisfy, not due to an external factor like being insulted. My opinions only.

 

[Emilie D]

I see where people are coming from with explanations/theories like this but I always wince a little when I see them because they come off - even if unintentionally - as a form of victim blaming. If only women didn't trick men out of money, if only women didn't insult men, if only women didn't laugh at men. If women didn't "make" men mad, then men wouldn't hurt them and kill them.

And I know that these explanations come up because we are all human and we understand the urge for retribution, but we don't understand very well the mechanisms whereby sexual urges can become entwined with a psychological desire to cause extreme pain up to and including death. But I think, regardless of what these victims did or what previous encounters with women were like, that the urge to hurt them and victimize them was mainly due to an internal need that the killer was looking to satisfy, not due to an external factor like being insulted. My opinions only.

I agree. It's his deviant thoughts and twisted psychopathy that caused all of this. These women just had the misfortune of running into a monster.

 

[Charlot123]

How one has to pronounce the name maybe important, yes, but I think, it differs. What seems to be important is, that "Heuermann" gets written in so many versions and mostly wrong, it's an agony to see it. Probably it means, that his data are found everywhere and nowhere.

PS: For me the name is sounding 100% German, and mentally I call him like I would call an "Heuermann" in German. I just now have a memory flash: I have known a man with the same name 55 years ago: attractive and being in the building industry (how fitting). Driving hot cars (BMW), but no killer, afaik.

How common is the name? It reminded me of “heute”, and the meaning is not dissimilar, but I never met a person with such a name, although it appears to be legally German.

 

[waldojabba]

Suspect in Gilgo Beach murders owns timeshare in Las Vegas

Records show that Rex Heuermann, charged in the deaths of three women in New York, bought the property with his wife in 2005.

www.reviewjournal.com

He bought another house in 2004

Just to be clear - According to the article you posted - he sold one timeshare and bought another in Las Vegas (LV). IMO

 

[Charlot123]

Yes, but he's arrogant and also didn't think he would get caught. I mean, it took them a decade so he had a lot of reason to believe in his skill set.

What I would think then that he might carefully plan and kill once, and not close to his properties, realizing that the connection between these places and NY is not easy to trace.

 

[Emilie D]

What I would think then that he might carefully plan and call once, and not close to his properties, realizing that the connection between these places and NY is not easy to trace.

He was using disposable phones though. I honestly believe he had no idea they could or would tie them to him. Technology was his downfall.

 

[Charlot123]

I've seen 6' 4"amd 6' 3". The DM has him at 6'6" but IMO they tend to exaggerate so... I'm going with a few inches shorter until I see him officially measured for a mugshot.

Heuermann fit the physical description provided by Schaller, too: He was 6 feet, 4 inches (193 centimeters) tall and weighed 240 pounds (109 kilograms).

Dave Schaller came face to face with alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann; 12 years later, his tip helped crack the case

As police comb through the home of a man charged in a string of serial killings in New York, one witness is frustrated it took so long to solve the crime.

www.cbsnews.com

The DM saying 6'6": Cops 'confident' they'll charge Rex Heuermann with more murders

What sets RH apart is his body shape, IMHO. He is almost square-shaped, a big, short-necked man, not merely tall, and standing very straight, too. I would like to see him walk, maybe the gait adds something. But “an ogre” is a telling word, and one wonders if they added something descriptive about his height as well.
ETA: looking at his photos from school and now. As a kid, he was rather good-looking, with light, wide-set eyes. Now I wonder if his current looks are normal aging, or does he, indeed, have hypertrophy of parotid glands, occasionally a telltale sign of alcoholism?