Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[NyxNY]

I'm assuming it's a hint at grave good/s that have not been disclosed and won't be till trial. Whether they were included in the wrappings or bindings or were in a position that suggests insertion before or after death, we won't know unless it comes out in court. And if he pleas out, we may never know.

(By insertion I'm not necessarily implying anything specifically sexual, though of course that is on the table. They could have been used to gag or choke the victim if alive, and prevent leakage after death. And that's as far as I'm going with that, except to say that however it was used and ended up deposited at the grave site, it was obviously intact enough to determine not only brand but that it was part of a special design series, that I assume had a limited run.)

MOO

BBM

This is the part that was the most curious to me. How most of the remains and evidence had deteriorated over the years, but the paper towels remained intact. What was different about this victim found with that precise paper towel? Or was it victims?

 

[Friday13]

‘If you want to take pictures, go ahead. I’m OK with it now,' she said. ‘If you want to stand up here and wait for something. I have a lot of work to do.

‘The sheer depression of what I saw was enough trauma…'

‘You guys know this is an ongoing investigation - it is not over - and I cannot speak to you,' she told the press on Friday.

Gilgo Beach 'killer's' wife breaks silence, says she's 'traumatized'

Gilgo Beach murders suspect Rex Heuermann's wife sobbed on being told someone wanted to start a GoFundMe to help her family, saying: 'I guess I have a friend.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

For the love of God, why can’t the media leave these people be. Let them pick up the pieces of their shattered life, which they never asked for. They had everything torn apart from them in an instant. What is there to see? They can’t comment. Give them their time, their space and their privacy. I feel so freaking bad for her and the kids. I wish I had a secluded little vacant home for them to hide out in for a while.

 

[SkylarSid]

I just went down tabloid hell, but as one of them pointed out...people? fox national? DM?

I forgot which tabloid, but I couldn't agree more that the creepy portrait pulled from Rex's residence looks very much like Lindsay Marie Harris.

I don't know if Rex drove to NV. But he seems the type who would like to bring his own stuff that can't be brought on a plane...such as a gun...in his car. Maybe he even had a little stash of murder accessories in his car. You never know when you need some duct-tape, burlap, oxycodone etc. on the road. Sorry for the image, and I'm just speculating. But I bet he carried a murder kit.

Even the town the legs were found in would be enroute. And, they were tossed along a highway. I wonder if it is (or was in 2006) as dark and quiet at night there.

MOO

Maybe he took a picture and then asked someone to paint it.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

I just went down tabloid hell, but as one of them pointed out...people? fox national? DM?

I forgot which tabloid, but I couldn't agree more that the creepy portrait pulled from Rex's residence looks very much like Lindsay Marie Harris.

I don't know if Rex drove to NV. But he seems the type who would like to bring his own stuff that can't be brought on a plane...such as a gun...in his car. Maybe he even had a little stash of murder accessories in his car. You never know when you need some duct-tape, burlap, oxycodone etc. on the road. Sorry for the image, and I'm just speculating. But I bet he carried a murder kit.

Even the town the legs were found in would be enroute. And, they were tossed along a highway. I wonder if it is (or was in 2006) as dark and quiet at night there.

MOO

Very good point about why he might prefer to drive than fly to Vegas!

Perhaps he met a SW in LV and offered her a ride cross-country. I also wonder that about Peaches, found on LI. Perhaps he drove her and the child to NY because she needed a lift. idk

I've made plenty of cross-country road trips and one benefit is that you can bring stuff along that you can't on a plane.

Something always strikes me when I travel by road in USA: we have so much land! Who knows what he was capable of doing on a road trip, if he indeed drive.

jmo

 

[Sundog]

It's not out of the realms of possibility that the family might want to stay in the home.
It's where they're used to.

Hopefully the rubber neckers will get tired and move on to the next place in the news.

It would be nice if the neighbours go easy on them.

AE and her son have lived there for 27 years, and her son since he was only 6 years old. What they saw when they went inside their home had to have shaken them to the core. No wonder they had to go outside and sit on a bench in front of their house. And the backyard, the garden she tended, clearly with great care. Gone. Everything destroyed. Inside and out.

AE appears to be a strong woman. Her priority is taking care of her children, particularly her special needs son. But everyone has their limits. With emotional support, financial help, and time, I believe she will be able to rebuild her life. She must not let RH's evil extinguish her light. I believe she will fight against that and prevail.

The daughter will need a lot of help at such a vulnerable age, a young adult who has to find herself and move forward in a very unforgiving world.

All jmo



edited to delete repetition

 

[Charlot123]

I’m 65. About Wives who have no idea ….my violent husband was probably a sociopath,(lots of affairs, violent, dangerous, planned on killing me and attempted it, stole a ton of money). according to my trauma docs. He also lied to me extensively. Now if you yourself don’t make a habit of lying, you tend to believe people automatically. So I , the wife, was often was very bewildered and confused by lies, thought things were quite weird and strange, but never really thought he was lying to me. I didn’t put all the lies together till years later. Then it all came together and explained the things that seemed odd at the time when I believed his explanations. So wives first thoughts when they encounter clues of serial killers…. (again mine was not a serial killer…just a sociopath the docs think ,but can’t diagnose ) wives don’t instantly leap to “ gee, he‘s probably a serial killer.” Normal people believe each other , especially people they love and married, and look for normal explanations even. amidst abnormal situations. So when people wonder why serial killers wives never knew, I think the brain is always looking for a normal explanation for unexplainable clues. The shock comes later when the truth is revealed. IMHO.

What you said is true. Wife could be busy, too. Raising two children, one of them disabled, organizing things for them takes time. IMHO they were living in different worlds, and even if something was off in his, she’d not notice. I imagine him using the basement solely for his needs and collections.

Very good point about why he might prefer to drive than fly to Vegas!

Perhaps he met a SW in LV and offered her a ride cross-country. I also wonder that about Peaches, found on LI. Perhaps he drove her and the child to NY because she needed a lift. idk

I've made plenty of cross-country road trips and one benefit is that you can bring stuff along that you can't on a plane.

Something always strikes me when I travel by road in USA: we have so much land! Who knows what he was capable of doing on a road trip, if he indeed drive.

jmo

Simply, if he explained “the cost of business class to Las Vegas is expensive, and the economy seats are too small for a person my height, it would raise no questions.

 

[Ruminations]

Very good point about why he might prefer to drive than fly to Vegas!

Perhaps he met a SW in LV and offered her a ride cross-country. I also wonder that about Peaches, found on LI. Perhaps he drove her and the child to NY because she needed a lift. idk

I've made plenty of cross-country road trips and one benefit is that you can bring stuff along that you can't on a plane.

Something always strikes me when I travel by road in USA: we have so much land! Who knows what he was capable of doing on a road trip, if he indeed drive.

jmo

She was from New York. And her ??? boyfriend??? Happened to be in upstate NY upon her disappearance. Her parents lived downstate. She could have wanted to see either of them.

Her car was abandoned, however. She would have taken better care of it if she accepted a ride.

MOO.

 

[investigatefred]

Debts are divided like assets in NY divorces. If you entered the marriage with a debt, you're more likely to keep it. If it was incurred in marriage, likely to split it in a similar proportion to assets. NY lawyers bill a lot per hour to argue that a in marriage debt really belongs to their soon-to-be ex because it was mismanagement of the marital funds.

BBM

This is the part that was the most curious to me. How most of the remains and evidence had deteriorated over the years, but the paper towels remained intact. What was different about this victim found with that precise paper towel? Or was it victims?

MOO...I've wondered if Rex held the purse strings and handled all the finances so his wife never really knew what they had/didn't have/what he spent $$$ on.


Re: the paper towels. I too have been perplexed about the specific ones listed. There's obviously some sort of evidence found with at least 1 of the 3 he has been charged with. It has always been my understanding they were killed by asphyxia....We know there have been belts, tape, etc involved with their remains as well. I don't want to be graphic, but I wonder if he didn't stuff paper towels in their mouth before or during the strangling, which I believe he always used some sort of ligature to do, not bare hands. (Belt, rope, etc.) Strangling can cause foam/frothing.

 

[minazoe]

Very good point about why he might prefer to drive than fly to Vegas!

Perhaps he met a SW in LV and offered her a ride cross-country. I also wonder that about Peaches, found on LI. Perhaps he drove her and the child to NY because she needed a lift. idk

I've made plenty of cross-country road trips and one benefit is that you can bring stuff along that you can't on a plane.

Something always strikes me when I travel by road in USA: we have so much land! Who knows what he was capable of doing on a road trip, if he indeed drive.

jmo

This popped up with grouping of 4 victims including Lindsay Marie..with another suspect mentioned..how weird is it that there are 4 victims in this grouping..must have been dismissed because they are talking about Rex now..

Man killed by sex worker could be serial killer

Police believe a man killed last week by a West Virginia sex worker could be linked to the disappearances or deaths of four prostitutes in the Las Vegas area a decade ago — and maybe a half-dozen more women in Chillicothe, Ohio.

www.ksdk.com

 

[iamshadow21]

BBM

This is the part that was the most curious to me. How most of the remains and evidence had deteriorated over the years, but the paper towels remained intact. What was different about this victim found with that precise paper towel? Or was it victims?

Well, we think of them being out there for absolutely ages, but Amber had been out there only three months, Megan, six. And we know decedents are found with paper items all the time, you just have to visit the Unidentified forums. Photographs, bus tickets, receipts, notes of various kinds, saint cards, business cards, tissues, price tags, playing cards, cigarette cartons with tax stamps that are legible... the list goes on, and some of those Does were found in equally inhospitable environments after similar periods of decomposition and exposure. They found readable paper artifacts with the Titanic, and in sand dunes in Egypt from the time of the Pharaohs. When we unstuck the top half of a window in a 150 year old house we were living in, we found newspaper that was probably from the 1950s in the track, put there to keep out the draughts and rain if the weather was hitting that side of the house when the top half of the window was nailed shut. It'd been there for at least sixty years, and we could still read the ads on it in the old money from before decimalisation (pre1966 Australia was pounds shillings and pence, like England). Paper is a lot more durable than we think.

MOO

EDIT: I will also add that paper towel is the one paper item I can think of that is specifically designed to absorb a lot of moisture and NOT fall apart. The whole point of it is that it keeps its structural integrity. So it may have been uniquely suited to stand up to decomp and weather on the very edge of the Atlantic without completely disintegrating.

 

[Pinkizzy]

What you said is true. Wife could be busy, too. Raising two children, one of them disabled, organizing things for them takes time. IMHO they were living in different worlds, and even if something was off in his, she’d not notice. I imagine him using the basement solely for his needs and collections.


Simply, if he explained “the cost of business class to Las Vegas is expensive, and the economy seats are too small for a person my height, it would raise no questions.

His size limits his ability to fly, doesn't it? Driving all that way makes sense now.

 

[Ruminations]

This is weird:

Rex's possible victim, if he was in Las Vegas at the right time and traveled by car, had two vehicles. She had both a car, parked at a casino/hotel, and a rental car that was inexplicably abandoned, not at her home, either.

if She lived with and only with her boyfriend, how could both cars be away? (I don't know her living arrangements; articles imply she lived with her bf. None mentioned interviews with housemates. But its still speculation.)

I could see an escort renting a car to thwart stalkers. By the week it doesn't necessarily add a lot to overhead, but that is also just a guess. Anybody who has done the work know why a car would be rented?

Since her legs were found far from NV and NY, I would think Rex could be eliminated as a suspect or become more viable as a suspect fairly quickly. I hope Rex uses Amex for gas. I hope he deducted the expenses, so he kept receipt.

MOO

 

[Lyanna]

Yes. That sure is a curious one.

Would have thought the paper towel itself would have disintegrated if found with one of the ladies? perhaps packaging was found with one of them?

Moo

 

[Cjrbr]

Do we know if RH was ever known to go hunting? Were any of his guns registered? Had he ever had a hunting permit? How many hunting knives were found? Was he ever know to eat wild game or fowl? We know he is a collector, (forgive me if I go off topic real quick, I just had a flashback of Denzel in The Bone Collector) because of the guns. What else did he collect? Knives? Dolls? Socks? Panties? Jewelry? Hair?

I’m not in the States and so am entirely unfamiliar with the locations being discussed but have been following this case and just googled Atlantic City to find out more about the area. This result appeared and stood out to me given how much discussion I have read on multiple platforms about hunting licences/‘duck hunting’ etc.

 

[iamshadow21]

His size limits his ability to fly, doesn't it? Driving all that way makes sense now.

Literally one of my first thoughts when I saw that picture of him a head taller than the LE surrounding him, was, "Well, he's got a very good excuse for getting out of going on holiday with his wife, but also for taking long road trips for work or pleasure without raising suspicion." If you're very tall, have a high body mass, or just about any other physical difference, flying is an absolute nightmare.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Maybe he took a picture and then asked someone to paint it.

I'm trying to find out if she painted.

Lindsay was only 21. A self-portait of a bruised face would be age-appropriate. Especially in teen years. I dont want to wildly derail this thread until evidence comes in making Rex a more likely suspect. But I can see a teenager painting herself processing how "ugly" she is after an accident, or processing a violent relationship. And, I could see Rex Hueurman taking a liking to the painting.

MOO

 

[Pinkizzy]

Who's the suspect? The link doesn't open for me

This popped up with grouping of 4 victims including Lindsay Marie..with another suspect mentioned..how weird is it that there are 4 victims in this grouping..must have been dismissed because they are talking about Rex now..

Man killed by sex worker could be serial killer

Police believe a man killed last week by a West Virginia sex worker could be linked to the disappearances or deaths of four prostitutes in the Las Vegas area a decade ago — and maybe a half-dozen more women in Chillicothe, Ohio.

www.ksdk.com

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Literally one of my first thoughts when I saw that picture of him a head taller than the LE surrounding him, was, "Well, he's got a very good excuse for getting out of going on holiday with his wife, but also for taking long road trips for work or pleasure without raising suspicion." If you're very tall, have a high body mass, or just about any other physical difference, flying is an absolute nightmare.

MOO

I'm assuming he flew to Iceland. Or did he take a cruise?

But I totally agree that driving might be more comfortable than flying given his size. Also gives time for his activities, unfortunately. I do hope LE can trace his movements.

jmo

 

[ArianeEmory]

Randomly: I put off listening to older podcast episodes on this case because I thought it might be annoying if they spent a lot of time going down wrong paths. But after listening to post-arrest episodes of LISK: The Long Island Serial Killer, I was impressed enough with their production and research quality that I finally started from the beginning. This podcast is a great resource and really covers many bases. It breaks down things like Shannan’s 911 call.

And the real reason I posted is this: I’m listening to some “profiling” episodes they did in Aug 2021, and a lot of the stuff is scarily accurate to RH. (That said, I can’t remember the date/year that LE got onto RH.)

I am not affiliated with or promoting the podcast … not including a link because I’m not sure of the podcast linking rules.

 

[Friday13]

Randomly: I put off listening to older podcast episodes on this case because I thought it might be annoying if they spent a lot of time going down wrong paths. But after listening to post-arrest episodes of LISK: The Long Island Serial Killer, I was impressed enough with their production and research quality that I finally started from the beginning. This podcast is a great resource and really covers many bases. It breaks down things like Shannan’s 911 call.

And the real reason I posted is this: I’m listening to some “profiling” episodes they did in Aug 2021, and a lot of the stuff is scarily accurate to RH. (That said, I can’t remember the date/year that LE got onto RH.)

I am not affiliated with or promoting the podcast … not including a link because I’m not sure of the podcast linking rules.

Their season 3, episodes 2&3 were sooooo intriguing, I posted my recommendation here about them a few days ago. Did you get the chance to listen to those 2? Wow….opens up a slew of new questions and possibilities, IMHO