Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Momoffourboys]

Cops want a swab of accused serial killer Rex Heuermann's DNA

The Suffolk County District Attorney's office is asking a justice to allow prosecutors to swab Rex Heuermann's cheek for further DNA after collecting a sample off a pizza crust and napkin.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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In papers filed in the Suffolk County Criminal Court on Tuesday, officials at the District Attorney's Office said investigators want to compare DNA from Heuermann's cheek with DNA recovered from the pizza crust and napkin he tossed out in January.

The DNA profile created from the pizza crust and napkin is a 99.96 percent match with the DNA profile created from hair recovered from the 'bottom of the burlap' bag used to transport Waterman's naked body, according to the documents obtained by the New York Daily News.

Without the sample, Assistant District Attorney Michelle Haddad argued, forensic biologists would only be able to reference the pizza crust and napkin as being 'purported to be used/touched' by Heuermann.

A cheek swab, she said, 'would provide further relevant evidence of the defendant's identity as the perpetrator of these crimes.'

Haddad also requested that a Suffolk County Supreme Court Justice allow police officers to photograph and video record the cheek swabbing process.

 

[Megnut]

But if it turns out that he kept souvenirs there, or worst case, killed victims there, would she even want to live there? I wouldn't.

I would want OUT but I find it easy to make snap decisions and take action. She might not be like that and the whole process of moving might feel more overwhelming than putting the house back together again. She did mention her anxiety is high, and I can totally understand. It's hard to do anything or even think when so stressed. I hope she has some support, not just financially, but with planning what to do day-by-day.

jmo

She might not be in a position to go anywhere else.

RH has left a wake of victims, including his own family.

JMO

 

[Warwick7]

@Timmyyy

Suffolk @RayTierneyDA, @SCPDHq, @NewYorkFBI,
@Suffolk_Sheriff and @nyspolice holding a press conference at 10:30 a.m. Friday, Aug. 4 “to announce an update in the ongoing investigation by the Gilgo Beach Homicide Investigation Task Force”

Prosecutors wanted another DNA swab. Could it have comeback already??

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/03/us/rex-heuermann-dna-gilgo-beach-murders/index.html

 

[CuriousCricket]

<modsnip>. I believe the killer came from the east.

MOO <modsnip>

Interesting. Why? Other than side of road? Since we don't know where the women were killed, perhaps Heuermann's kill place was to the east.Perhaps someone he knew spent a lot of time along that road somehow and he was more likely to be recognized if he took the closest road . . . The distances are not that much different. Perhaps he wanted them on a particular side of the road for his own reasons, and it was more accessible to come in that way.

Another reason may be that Jones Beach was HIS territory - That's the park he grew up in, worked in as a youngster, where he and his family frequented. He kept the SWs and his secret life away from that area, which would involve approaching the shore from the Gilgo Beach end instead of Jones Beach. It was summertime. Did he take them to the beach for their trysts?

 

[Pavor Nocturnus]

Interesting. Why? Other than side of road? Since we don't know where the women were killed, perhaps Heuermann's kill place was to the east.Perhaps someone he knew spent a lot of time along that road somehow and he was more likely to be recognized if he took the closest road . . . The distances are not that much different. Perhaps he wanted them on a particular side of the road for his own reasons, and it was more accessible to come in that way.

Another reason may be that Jones Beach was HIS territory - That's the park he grew up in, worked in as a youngster, where he and his family frequented. He kept the SWs and his secret life away from that area, which would involve approaching the shore from the Gilgo Beach end instead of Jones Beach. It was summertime. Did he take them to the beach for their trysts?

John Bittrolff lived near Gilgo Beach as a teen did he not? And placenames that pop up when it comes to the murders on Long Island - Lindenhurst, Babylon, Gilgo Beach, Oak Beach, Fire Island, Islandia and Manorville - are all east of Massapequa Park.

 

[investigatefred]

John Bittrolff lived near Gilgo Beach as a teen did he not? And placenames that pop up when it comes to the murders on Long Island - Lindenhurst, Babylon, Gilgo Beach, Oak Beach, Fire Island, Islandia and Manorville - are all east of Massapequa Park.

Really not understanding your method of thinking....Rex had a vehicle and drove it whichever direction he fancied to dump the bodies of the people he killed. Was the vehicle not capable of driving in certain directions? What you said makes no sense. JMO

 

[NyxNY]

John Bittrolff lived near Gilgo Beach as a teen did he not? And placenames that pop up when it comes to the murders on Long Island - Lindenhurst, Babylon, Gilgo Beach, Oak Beach, Fire Island, Islandia and Manorville - are all east of Massapequa Park.

Bitrolff grew up in Mastic, way east of Gilgo, near Smithpoint beach. Also right next to Manorville where he wound up as an adult.

ETA: Bitrolff’s DNA has not been linked to any of the Gilgo victims that I am aware of. RH’s has. More to come tomorrow morning

 

[Momoffourboys]

Rex Heuermann's Wife Speaks to Court TV | Watch Court TV

Court TV met up with Asa Ellerup, the wife of alleged Gilgo Beach Serial Killer Rex Heuermann, in front of her Long Island home.

www.courttv.com

 

[Deleted member 117884]

"Newish" info starts at 3:24 mark

 

[margarita25]

A couple older videos in case not already posted, I’m sure they have been, impossible to keep up.

 

[Just K]

Today, something caught my eye. When he got married the first time he was working in Freeport for Greer Construction Corporation.

That is very near both the Sunrise Hwy and Meadowbrook Parkway, close to Merrick. I keep thinking that, at some point, he may have crossed paths with J Bittrolff who had his own construction company called Coastal Construction.

Then I saw that the home in
Palmyra, VA was associated with his family as early as 1994 until about 2014. I remembered a websleuth’s member brought up the 1996 murder of Alicia Showalter Reynolds. She was last seen on Rt 29 in the Culpepper area. Rt 15 meets Rt 29 in that area and goes directly to Palmyra. Alicia was found in a deserted area, in Lignum, “the killer covered her body with sticks and pine tree branches about 30 feet off of a loney gravel road used primarily by woodcutters.” This was similar to how JT’s torso was found in Manorville.

‘It’s an end to wondering’ her fate Discover of body clears up mystery for grieving family

LIGNUM, Va. — As Virginia state troopers hunt for a mysterious motorist they believe is a psychopathic killer, ttTC decomposed body found in a secluded makeshift grave was identified officially yesterday as that of a missing Johns…

www.baltimoresun.com

I looked at the suspect sketch and then found the picture of RH in the first wedding announcement. The suspect description in Alicia’s case was described, as he was looking into her engine, as being as tall as 6 ft, white and in his early to mid 30s. I’m thinking he really resembled that sketch when compared to his first wedding picture. Can anyone here find out if he owned a small green pickup truck in 1996?

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[margarita25]

Weighing in on the arrest of LISK, I wasn’t sure they’d ever catch him.

As for RH, I don’t know who I was expecting for LISK, but it wasn’t him.

 

[sds71]

Gilgo Beach serial killing victim Maureen Brainard-Barnes’ remains were bound with a distinctive belt embossed with the initials “WH” or “HM,” Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said in a Newsday interview Thursday — the first time authorities have disclosed that detail publicly.

The belt, images of which Suffolk police released during a news conference in 2020 in an attempt to drum up investigative tips in the case, was one of three belts used to bind Brainard-Barnes..

“There was a question hair that is still being tested that was removed by the buckle of the belt,” said Tierney, referring to one of the other belts, without any initials, used to bind her legs.

“One had “WH” on it. One had the distal end of the belt cut off, meaning the end of the belt furthest from the buckle and it was cut off, and that would have been the section where, had there been initials on it, that’s where those initials would have been.”

Tierney, also revealed that authorities likely will be able to identify the remains of three of the total 10 victims whose remains were found in the vicinity of Gilgo Beach.

Those victims — a woman who investigators have nicknamed “Peaches” because of a tattoo she had, a toddler that was found with her and those of a man who was found separately — have remained unidentified.

“I think we’re getting closer with regard to all of those profiles,” said Tierney, who confirmed that the identifications would be made by the FBI using genetic genealogy, “among other things."

“We’re honing in on that, and I think we’ll have information on that — on some of the identifications shortly,” Tierney said... “Real shortly.”

The district attorney’s office plans to hold a new conference Friday morning with members of the Gilgo Beach Homicide Task Force, Tierney declined to discuss what officials plan to announce.

The three belts found with Brainard-Barnes’ remains, dark in color, were identical except that only one of the belts was embossed with lettering. The belt bearing the initials was bound around her chest area, Tierney said…

Gilgo Beach killings: Maureen Brainard-Barnes' remains bound with belt embossed with the initials 'WH' or 'HM,' DA says

The killing was not part of the indictment of alleged serial killer Rex A. Heuermann, though prosecutors have named him as the "prime suspect" in her slaying.

www.newsday.com

 

[investigatefred]

Today, something caught my eye. When he got married the first time he was working in Freeport for Greer Construction Corporation.

Cops haul filing cabinet out of 'serial killer' Rex Heuermann's home

Forensic officers could be seen hauling large items, including a giant filing cabinet, from suspected serial killer Rex Heuermann's home on Saturday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

That is very near both the Sunrise Hwy and Meadowbrook Parkway, close to Merrick. I keep thinking that, at some point, he may have crossed paths with J Bittrolff who had his own construction company called Coastal Construction.

Then I saw that the home in
Palmyra, VA was associated with his family as early as 1994 until about 2014. I remembered a websleuth’s member brought up the 1996 murder of Alicia Showalter Reynolds. She was last seen on Rt 29 in the Culpepper area. Rt 15 meets Rt 29 in that area and goes directly to Palmyra. Alicia was found in a deserted area, in Lignum, “the killer covered her body with sticks and pine tree branches about 30 feet off of a loney gravel road used primarily by woodcutters.” This was similar to how JT’s torso was found in Manorville.

‘It’s an end to wondering’ her fate Discover of body clears up mystery for grieving family

LIGNUM, Va. — As Virginia state troopers hunt for a mysterious motorist they believe is a psychopathic killer, ttTC decomposed body found in a secluded makeshift grave was identified officially yesterday as that of a missing Johns…

www.baltimoresun.com

I looked at the suspect sketch and then found the picture of RH in the first wedding announcement. The suspect description in Alicia’s case was described, as he was looking into her engine, as being as tall as 6 ft, white and in his early to mid 30s. I’m thinking he really resembled that sketch when compared to his first wedding picture. Can anyone here find out if he owned a small green pickup truck in 1996?

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Yes, I brought this one up as it happened not far from me, and I thought the sketch looked like a younger RH. I wondered if anyone knew what vehicle he had prior to the green 2002 Chevrolet Avalanche, since the route is on the way to/from where he had family. I hope he's checked against evidence they have collected from Alicia.

 

[margarita25]

Question, sorry if rehash.

Did we know Amber C’s boyfriend had given the description of the suspect to police, and that he was described as extremely large like an “ogre”? Was the public ever given this description of the suspect and his Avalanche vehicle? I’m not remembering this, maybe I just forgot. If they never publicly released the vehicle description, then it must have been strategic, so he wouldn’t get rid of it? As for his physical description, if it was not released, then I’m not quite sure what to think about that.

 

[Pavor Nocturnus]

Really not understanding your method of thinking....Rex had a vehicle and drove it whichever direction he fancied to dump the bodies of the people he killed. Was the vehicle not capable of driving in certain directions? What you said makes no sense. JMO

So he came from Massapequa Park then turned his car around and THEN dumped the bodies on the north side? <modsnip> I assume any killer wanted to dump the bodies then get away unnoticed. Then coming from the east would be easier, would it not? <modsnip>

MOO

 

[Pavor Nocturnus]

Bitrolff grew up in Mastic, way east of Gilgo, near Smithpoint beach. Also right next to Manorville where he wound up as an adult.

ETA: Bitrolff’s DNA has not been linked to any of the Gilgo victims that I am aware of. RH’s has. More to come tomorrow morning

Bittrolff has lived in North Babylon and Amityville around 1980.

 

[kittythehare]

Question, sorry if rehash.

Did we know Amber C’s boyfriend had given the description of the suspect to police, and that he was described as extremely large like an “ogre”? Was the public ever given this description of the suspect and his Avalanche vehicle? I’m not remembering this, maybe I just forgot. If they never publicly released the vehicle description, then it must have been strategic, so he wouldn’t get rid of it? As for his physical description, if it was not released, then I’m not quite sure what to think about that.

Mislaid, wasn't it?

 

[citizen_sleuth]

So he came from Massapequa Park then turned his car around and THEN dumped the bodies on the north side? <modsnip> I assume any killer wanted to dump the bodies then get away unnoticed. Then coming from the east would be easier, would it not? <modsnip>

MOO

There isn't a massive difference between the two routes you're describing. I will say that one potential reason he may have opted to take the 'longer' route (i.e., over the Great South Bay Bridge) is to avoid the additional traffic around the roundabout at Jones Beach State Park (it is also not at all uncommon to see State Troopers set up in that area, especially in the summer when the beach is packed, not ideal to be driving around with a body in your trunk there). With the exception of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, who disappeared on a Monday, all of the Gilgo 4 victims disappeared on days where traffic at Jones Beach is higher than usual (Thursday - Sunday). JMO.

 

[DS2021]

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