Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Just K]

Results expected to take at least 6 weeks

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Victoria Camara definitely fits the killer’s type.

 

[Ruminations]

Yes, but the question is a conspiracy to commit what particular crime ? I have zero legal training, but just reading this document from a layman's point of view, the language seems incredibly unclear to me. I don't know if that's because LE was trying to cover every possible scenario of what they might discover during a search warrant, or if they had something particular in mind. The search warrant was for the truck if I'm not mistaken, and the truck was in possession of RH's brother, so it's possible that LE was simply covering their bases should they come to discover that the brother took possession of the truck with the clear knowledge that he was attempting to conceal evidence of a crime.

OR...I could just be dumb as a rock, which is far more likely. LOL .

Could be Craig for that reason. We just don't know.

MOO

 

[dotr]

'Aug 17, 2023
Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann was arrested one month ago. In that time, he’s gone through an evolution in jail, according to Suffolk County Sheriff Errol Toulon Jr. FOX 5 NY's Jodi Goldberg sat down with the sheriff to investigate the crime further.'

 

[Momoffourboys]

Heuermann showing little emotion in jail, has no contact with other inmates

It has been just over a month since Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann was arrested. In that time, he’s gone through an evolution behind bars, according to Suffolk County Sheriff Errol Toulon Jr.

www.fox5ny.com

 

[CuriousCricket]

I think Rex's searches helped them ID her.

If my theory is true, he knows names of other victims. And Karen is one of them.

MOO

If your theory is correct, LE also knows the names of other victims as well, using his Internet searches to lead them.

As an aside, what I've read of other serial killers indicates they often do know the victims' names. I have wondered why sometimes.

 

[LadyL]

Agreed. I doubt he's in a frame of mind to be able to concentrate on reading a novel or long work, so how would you pass the endless time?

pondering how he's going to get out of this and be free to commit more murders?

 

[Luna20]

It has always amazed me how the incarcerated seemingly find Jesus. Particularly murders and rapists.

MOO

More like Jesus found them and put them behind bars. Busted. They have a twisted sense of never being caught.

 

[LadyL]

I'm not qualified to make a clinical diagnosis, but I do find it interesting that many trained psychologists diagnosed Jeffery Dahmer as a psychopath despite the fact that he clearly felt remorse and revulsion by his own behavior.

that is interesting
I don't know much about that case cause just can't stomach it

 

[LadyL]

At this point why would they be withholding the victims names? If RH murdered them, he probably doesn't even know their names, or at least it's not likely IMO, so how would he give up the names to bargain with LE?

he would know their work pseudonym from responding to their ads and texting with them

 

[Vern]

he would know their work pseudonym from responding to their ads and texting with them

Most women also carry purses / pocketbooks with an identity/bank/credit card etc. In his case, he'd have access to those after killing them.

 

[MrsG728]

I'm wondering if LE knows if RH used an escort agency when in AC or Vegas

 

[minazoe]

If your theory is correct, LE also knows the names of other victims as well, using his Internet searches to lead them.

As an aside, what I've read of other serial killers indicates they often do know the victims' names. I have wondered why sometimes.

he could have their belongings, ID cards etc..he may have started killing long before on line "dating".

 

[SonsOfCain]

So Peaches and her baby are very interesting to me (I’ve been thinking about this for days). Specifically how they were found.

First we have Peaches. She was found mutilated and cut up, her body parts scattered in different areas (if I remember right. Please correct me if I am wrong). This tells me that the murderer clearly went to great lengths to make sure she would be harder to identify.

Then we have her baby. The baby was found intact and wrapped in a blanket, but the body was found quite a ways away from her mother. The blanket, in my opinion, tells me that with the baby, the killer had at least a teeny tiny little iota of remorse/guilt (obviously not enough guilt to keep the killer from killing the baby though). But the fact that the baby was buried away from her mother, in my own personal opinion, also seems to suggest cruelty/another way to have some sort of power over the victims by not even having any sort of decency to bury the mother and her child together. It could also be the killer not wanting police to link Peaches and the baby, but if that were the case then I almost feel like he would have buried the baby much further away than he did. If Heuermann is responsible for them, then I wonder if the reason the baby was wrapped up and left intact was because she reminded him of his own daughter, who would have been around the same age as Peaches’ baby.

What are everyone else’s thoughts?

 

[Ruminations]

So Peaches and her baby are very interesting to me (I’ve been thinking about this for days). Specifically how they were found.

First we have Peaches. She was found mutilated and cut up, her body parts scattered in different areas (if I remember right. Please correct me if I am wrong). This tells me that the murderer clearly went to great lengths to make sure she would be harder to identify.

Then we have her baby. The baby was found intact and wrapped in a blanket, but the body was found quite a ways away from her mother. The blanket, in my opinion, tells me that with the baby, the killer had at least a teeny tiny little iota of remorse/guilt (obviously not enough guilt to keep the killer from killing the baby though). But the fact that the baby was buried away from her mother, in my own personal opinion, also seems to suggest cruelty/another way to have some sort of power over the victims by not even having any sort of decency to bury the mother and her child together. It could also be the killer not wanting police to link Peaches and the baby, but if that were the case then I almost feel like he would have buried the baby much further away than he did. If Heuermann is responsible for them, then I wonder if the reason the baby was wrapped up and left intact was because she reminded him of his own daughter, who would have been around the same age as Peaches’ baby.

What are everyone else’s thoughts?

If Rex is responsible for Baby Peaches, it would be hauntingly atrocious if she were the same age as his daughter.

Yuck!

MOO

 

[dotr]

rbbm.

Gilgo Beach murders: 3 questions for author of 'Lost Girls' after suspect's arrest

Author Robert Kolker, who wrote "Lost Girls," about the unsolved murders of five women found on a Long Island beach, says he gasped when he heard a suspect had been arrested after 13-plus years.

ca.news.yahoo.com

'Robert Kolker was out walking his dog in Brooklyn, N.Y., early Friday morning when his wife texted him with some very unexpected news: More than 13 years after the bodies of five women were found on the same Long Island beach, and nearly a decade after “Lost Girls” — his bestselling book about their lives and the unsolved murders, later adapted into a Netflix movie — was published, authorities had finally arrested a suspect in the case.

“I gasped,” Kolker told Yahoo News in an interview. “I thought, ‘A suspect? Really?’ I rushed home, sat down in front of my computer and really didn't get up again for the rest of the day.”

1. When you heard about the arrest and then saw the suspect — who prosecutors described as living in plain sight — what were your first thoughts?

He lived in Massapequa Park, and my first reaction was how close that was to where those four sets of remains were dumped. I thought, Well, that's very convenient. Then I learned he was an architect who worked in Manhattan, and I immediately thought of the cellphone pings from a few of the victims’ phones that were traced to midtown. And then I looked at his office and I saw that it was a block from Madison Square Garden, which also happens to be Penn Station, where Maureen Brainard-Barnes was last heard from before she disappeared. And so all of that seemed right to me. But the thing that really surprised me was that he had this very public-facing job at an architecture firm that had done work for a lot of high-profile, established corporate clients. And my personal feeling this whole time was that the killer would be someone who is more of a loner. Then I learned he was a family man, that he's married, that he has two kids. That also surprised me. Then we all learned more about the case and the details from the DA’s office. There were many, many more surprises: He owned 92 gun permits; his DNA is traced to the victims. And here this is someone whose name never came up before publicly. Simply amazing, amazing developments.''

 

[Ruminations]

Tick, tick, tick.

Waiting on a couple of big drops: The identities of Peaches and Baby Peaches, and the results of DNA matches with NV victim-related evidence.

MOO

 

[NicMed329]

So Peaches and her baby are very interesting to me (I’ve been thinking about this for days). Specifically how they were found.

First we have Peaches. She was found mutilated and cut up, her body parts scattered in different areas (if I remember right. Please correct me if I am wrong). This tells me that the murderer clearly went to great lengths to make sure she would be harder to identify.

Then we have her baby. The baby was found intact and wrapped in a blanket, but the body was found quite a ways away from her mother. The blanket, in my opinion, tells me that with the baby, the killer had at least a teeny tiny little iota of remorse/guilt (obviously not enough guilt to keep the killer from killing the baby though). But the fact that the baby was buried away from her mother, in my own personal opinion, also seems to suggest cruelty/another way to have some sort of power over the victims by not even having any sort of decency to bury the mother and her child together. It could also be the killer not wanting police to link Peaches and the baby, but if that were the case then I almost feel like he would have buried the baby much further away than he did. If Heuermann is responsible for them, then I wonder if the reason the baby was wrapped up and left intact was because she reminded him of his own daughter, who would have been around the same age as Peaches’ baby.

What are everyone else’s thoughts?

Maybe it's his kid. JMO

 

[investigatefred]

Maybe it's his kid. JMO

I think they'd likely know and have released that already if he was, since they've had Rex's DNA since the pizza?

 

[Ruminations]

I think they'd likely know and have released that already if he was, since they've had Rex's DNA since the pizza?

If It's his daughter...that's a triple yuck

it would be getting into territory where the horror can't be ranked in degrees. Atrocities are horrific and unspeakable or they aren't.

If Baby Peaches were his daughter, I don't think they would announce their ID's until they were ready to charge Rex with something, or ready to explain how it could be his daughter and yet he not be charged.

I also wonder if his kicks are things that make babies.

MOO

 

[acutename]

So Peaches and her baby are very interesting to me (I’ve been thinking about this for days). Specifically how they were found.

First we have Peaches. She was found mutilated and cut up, her body parts scattered in different areas (if I remember right. Please correct me if I am wrong). This tells me that the murderer clearly went to great lengths to make sure she would be harder to identify.

Then we have her baby. The baby was found intact and wrapped in a blanket, but the body was found quite a ways away from her mother. The blanket, in my opinion, tells me that with the baby, the killer had at least a teeny tiny little iota of remorse/guilt (obviously not enough guilt to keep the killer from killing the baby though). But the fact that the baby was buried away from her mother, in my own personal opinion, also seems to suggest cruelty/another way to have some sort of power over the victims by not even having any sort of decency to bury the mother and her child together. It could also be the killer not wanting police to link Peaches and the baby, but if that were the case then I almost feel like he would have buried the baby much further away than he did. If Heuermann is responsible for them, then I wonder if the reason the baby was wrapped up and left intact was because she reminded him of his own daughter, who would have been around the same age as Peaches’ baby.

What are everyone else’s thoughts?

curious how the baby wound up with them at all- not typical for a meeting and wonder if he (or whomever) tried to act friendly towards these women- "we can drop your daughter off at ___ ; hop in I"ll give you a ride." also thinking that if RH is not responsible for all the Gilgo bodies, then we are back to looking for more killers.