Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Bobbbbberson]

Nice eyeballing the older photos! Whatever it is (new, old, same, variation) I hope it's removed for digging

Idk how to prove this, because I used software from work (Eagleview) and don’t feel comfortable exporting the photos off my work computer… for what it’s worth that deck was not there as of October 2023 (most recent date available). There was a large similar looking deck before the 2023 search on the north end of the backyard.

The deck now on the south end of the backyard is definitely new (since October 2023) just based on the condition/lack of weathering to the wood.

 

[Just K]

BBM. A floor plan you say? I'm sure most WS'ers remember BTK's floor plan (BDSM dungeon)?

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Gilgo Beach killings: Suspect Rex Heuermann's family struggling 'to comprehend' renewed focus on home

Their attorney's comment came as the law enforcement search of the Massapequa Park home stretched into a third day.

www.newsday.com

This garage is were my mind has been going. I honestly feel the garage holds some of the secrets

 

[Ruby_PA]

Idk how to prove this, because I used software from work (Eagleview) and don’t feel comfortable exporting the photos off my work computer… for what it’s worth that deck was not there as of October 2023 (most recent date available). There was a large similar looking deck before the 2023 search on the north end of the backyard.

The deck now on the south end of the backyard is definitely new (since October 2023) just based on the condition/lack of weathering to the wood

I thought the same, but then again, if the large white greenhouse was sitting on it for a long period of time, the wood would be protected from the elements and might look new upon removal of the greenhouse. It does appear to possibly be a little bit larger than the original platform though. If it's not entirely new, it might be expanded.

 

[Alkali13]

I thought the same, but then again, if the large white greenhouse was sitting on it for a long period of time, the wood would be protected from the elements and might look new upon removal of the greenhouse. It does appear to possibly be a little bit larger than the original platform though. If it's not entirely new, it might be expanded.

Also, don't you have to refinish and retreat wood every year anyway? It could've been spruced up since last year, although I am by no means a wood deck expert.

 

[Bobbbbberson]

I thought the same, but then again, if the large white greenhouse was sitting on it for a long period of time, the wood would be protected from the elements and might look new upon removal of the greenhouse. It does appear to possibly be a little bit larger than the original platform though. If it's not entirely new, it might be expanded.

Last thing I’ll say cause I realize without posting the photos my comments don’t help too much… but that area where the greenhouse platform was looks like it was used as a pile of chopped up fire wood and junk in the October 2023 photo.

 

[Inquisitive11201]

I thought it was a new platform in the back yard as well, but I just looked at this old article and it seems to be the same platform the the white greenhouse was sitting on during the 1st search, maybe expanded a little bit:
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I was a college student in Long Island from 2007-2010. I had a friend whose parents invited me for dinner in Massapequa several times, and to get to their place I passed RH's house. Never thought I would have constantly driven near a future accused serial killer's home in any future...

Also, I often took the Long Island Railroad into Penn Station, the NJ Transit train, and the Metro North to visit friends in CT and White Plains. I took those modes of transportation during the disappearances of the Gilgo Four, and Shannan Gilbert. I also can't help but feel that must have brushed past any of them at Penn Station, or any of the trains I mentioned.

I have been relentlessly reading about this case, read Robert Kolker's book, (I did contact him once to tell him how much his book was wonderful and incredibly human). I am still riveted as well as constantly haunted about this case. Justice, please for the women.

 

[NyxNY]

Also, don't you have to refinish and retreat wood every year anyway? It could've been spruced up since last year, although I am by no means a wood deck expert.

I don't think anything in that house has been "spruced" up since the 1970's. I just look at that house and I can smell it.

 

[Alkali13]

I was a college student in Long Island from 2007-2010. I had a friend whose parents invited me for dinner in Massapequa several times, and to get to their place I passed RH's house. Never thought I would have constantly driven near a future accused serial killer's home in any future...

Also, I often took the Long Island Railroad into Penn Station, the NJ Transit train, and the Metro North to visit friends in CT and White Plains. I took those modes of transportation during the disappearances of the Gilgo Four, and Shannan Gilbert. I also can't help but feel that must have brushed past any of them at Penn Station, or any of the trains I mentioned.

I have been relentlessly reading about this case, read Robert Kolker's book, (I did contact him once to tell him how much his book was wonderful and incredibly human). I am still riveted as well as constantly haunted about this case. Justice, please for the women.

Welcome! I always love having a local in these discussions.

 

[Cool Cats]

Scouring hundreds of current videos, taking screenshots and comparing them to those taken in July 2023

Sorry, I meant do you have a link?

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

IMHO, RH seems almost like he was cocky enough to plan for the eventuality of him getting caught, arrested and his home searched. To be fair, perhaps this is my biased speaking based on my view of how deplorably comfortable he was repeatedly calling, taunting and harassing Amanda Barthelemy, Melissa Barthelemy’s sister. It gave me the chilling impression he was so sure he wasn’t going to get caught or like he had his bases covered.

I think it is possible that if he did keep belongings from any of his victims or evidence from any of the crime scenes, he hid them in homes or buildings that he had regular and easy access to. He might have considered keeping these items, or at least a portion of them, outside the home and in places not so apparent to shield them from the police while also ensuring he could access them when he felt the disgusting need or urge to (for example, to relive, reminisce over or fantasize about the crimes.

This may mean that unfortunately LE might consider also searching his mother’s home, the South Carolina property again and any storage units that are not in his name but he still had access to through his job or relatives. It is possible that the owners of these properties didn’t even know he had access or how and how often was using them.

JMO/speculation

'He Knew My Name': Victim's Sister Recounts 'Taunting' Phone Call Allegedly Made by Gilgo Beach Suspect

Melissa Barthelemy was one of four murder victims found along Gilgo Beach on Long Island, N.Y. in December 2010

people.com

Gilgo Beach murder case: Police search Long Island storage unit connected to suspect

Days after police nabbed the man suspected of killing multiple women and dumping their bodies in the Gilgo Beach area of Long Island, police are now searching for more possible clues and evidence related to the serial slayings.

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

IMHO, RH seems almost like he was cocky enough to plan for the eventuality of him getting caught, arrested and his home searched. To be fair, perhaps this is my biased speaking based on my view of how deplorably comfortable he was repeatedly calling, taunting and harassing Amanda Barthelemy, Melissa Barthelemy’s sister. It gave me the chilling impression he was so sure he wasn’t going to get caught or like he had his bases covered.

I think it is possible that if he did keep belongings from any of his victims or evidence from any of the crime scenes, he hid them in homes or buildings that he had regular and easy access to. He might have considered keeping these items, or at least a portion of them, outside the home and in places not so apparent to shield them from the police while also ensuring he could access them when he felt the disgusting need or urge to (for example, to relive, reminisce over or fantasize about the crimes.

This may mean that unfortunately LE might consider also searching his mother’s home, the South Carolina property again and any storage units that are not in his name but he still had access to through his job or relatives. It is possible that the owners of these properties didn’t even know he had access or how and how often was using them.

JMO/speculation

'He Knew My Name': Victim's Sister Recounts 'Taunting' Phone Call Allegedly Made by Gilgo Beach Suspect

Melissa Barthelemy was one of four murder victims found along Gilgo Beach on Long Island, N.Y. in December 2010

people.com

Gilgo Beach murder case: Police search Long Island storage unit connected to suspect

Days after police nabbed the man suspected of killing multiple women and dumping their bodies in the Gilgo Beach area of Long Island, police are now searching for more possible clues and evidence related to the serial slayings.

www.nbcnewyork.com

Yes! ^^^ and not to over emphasize it, as there are at least four female victims involved that we are aware of……. they are the priority IMO…….

Just maybe that book was perhaps RHs? And if the case, begs the question if it was earlier seen, then how did it reappear later in this most recent search warrant evidence collection? And by whom? AFAIK RH wouldn’t have been in the residence to have placed it the second time? And yet if it wasn’t his then whose book is it? I envision DNA work on it might elucidate who had touched it?

Maybe one of the family’s lawyers will clarify that?

I am also hoping that perhaps we will hear something soon from any other attorney(s) involved with this case. MOO

 

[minazoe]

this whole scene feels a little off doesn't it? very eccentric. I'm not sure what exactly was happening in that house. The bathroom looked as though it was being remodeled..there is so much stuff in there..it's dangerous almost, a nightmare, unwholesome. I think LE caused some of the mess but they didn't create all that stuff stacked to the ceilings..I see some shots where I see some nice Italian backsplash tile in the kitchen..maybe they were fixing it up somewhat when all this went down. This house is a cool little mid century box house..it could be very nice. He is a freaking architect and has 2X4's holding up his roof.

The book is just more weirdness...edgy art book? crime porn? they seem a strangely emeshed family in this too small house as I look in from the outside. Rex has a son who is dependent and needs around the clock care. This alone is a trauma. It seems like they are truly hoarders and this search must be truly traumatic for them because hoarding is a form of self protection I think. Also it is embarrassing and an assault on your privacy.

they seem oddly focused on how to exploit their trauma and how to maximize the financial outcome of all of this in terms of assets. just saying...was Rex having swinger parties there where his children lived? This house seems like some crazy bad drug scene from the 70's with kids tripping over their passed out parents and friends in the living room..wonder if it's all true..this case is so strange. mOO

 

[Just K]

Sorry, I meant do you have a link?

Oh, I took a ton of screenshots but either my security settings will not allow me to post them or this site won’t. I tried several times to post the before and after- the July and the present for comparison but they wouldn’t load.

 

[Just K]

IMHO, RH seems almost like he was cocky enough to plan for the eventuality of him getting caught, arrested and his home searched. To be fair, perhaps this is my biased speaking based on my view of how deplorably comfortable he was repeatedly calling, taunting and harassing Amanda Barthelemy, Melissa Barthelemy’s sister. It gave me the chilling impression he was so sure he wasn’t going to get caught or like he had his bases covered.

I think it is possible that if he did keep belongings from any of his victims or evidence from any of the crime scenes, he hid them in homes or buildings that he had regular and easy access to. He might have considered keeping these items, or at least a portion of them, outside the home and in places not so apparent to shield them from the police while also ensuring he could access them when he felt the disgusting need or urge to (for example, to relive, reminisce over or fantasize about the crimes.

This may mean that unfortunately LE might consider also searching his mother’s home, the South Carolina property again and any storage units that are not in his name but he still had access to through his job or relatives. It is possible that the owners of these properties didn’t even know he had access or how and how often was using them.

JMO/speculation

'He Knew My Name': Victim's Sister Recounts 'Taunting' Phone Call Allegedly Made by Gilgo Beach Suspect

Melissa Barthelemy was one of four murder victims found along Gilgo Beach on Long Island, N.Y. in December 2010

people.com

Gilgo Beach murder case: Police search Long Island storage unit connected to suspect

Days after police nabbed the man suspected of killing multiple women and dumping their bodies in the Gilgo Beach area of Long Island, police are now searching for more possible clues and evidence related to the serial slayings.

www.nbcnewyork.com

Yes, I think the Palmyra, VA house where his mother was living is probably a goldmine. The SC property as well. Especially after selling mom’s house and moving her to his sister’s home in Upstate NY.

 

[x_files]

Yes! ^^^ and not to over emphasize it, as there are at least four female victims involved that we are aware of……. they are the priority IMO…….

Just maybe that book was perhaps RHs? And if the case, begs the question if it was earlier seen, then how did it reappear later in this most recent search warrant evidence collection? And by whom? AFAIK RH wouldn’t have been in the residence to have placed it the second time? And yet if it wasn’t his then whose book is it? I envision DNA work on it might elucidate who had touched it?

Maybe one of the family’s lawyers will clarify that?

I am also hoping that perhaps we will hear something soon from any other attorney(s) involved with this case. MOO

All I know is I don't think an average family w/o having someone interested or involved in detective/forensics would own it. A weird teen maybe, but on the kitchen counter? Kinda weird.
It's ODD.

 

[Alkali13]

All I know is I don't think an average family w/o having someone interested or involved in detective/forensics would own it. A weird teen maybe, but on the kitchen counter? Kinda weird.
It's ODD.

I mean, I added it to my Amazon cart the second I heard about it because I think it sounds fascinating and wouldn't question anyone owning it for that reason... UNLESS it turns out they were a SK. Then it becomes a very different story.

 

[snarast]

I mean, I added it to my Amazon cart the second I heard about it because I think it sounds fascinating and wouldn't question anyone owning it for that reason... UNLESS it turns out they were a SK. Then it becomes a very different story.

Feels like a statement in a way - this place is a crime scene. Maybe thats all it is now even to ppl who grew up there? Speculating obviously.

 

[sds71]

Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney visited the home of suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann on Thursday as an extensive search of the property reached a fourth day.

The prosecutor, who had not previously been seen at the architect’s house all week, spent 20 minutes inside the home before leaving without speaking to reporters gathered down the street.

Crime scene personnel could be seen photographing Heuermann’s front porch, where they removed paint chips and a piece of rope and placed them in evidence bags, before returning other items to the garage late Thursday afternoon. A large-format architect’s printer was among the items taken out of the house, only to be returned hours later.

Gilgo Beach killings: Suffolk DA Ray Tierney visits suspected killer's house amid extensive search

Crime scene personnel were seen photographing the porch, where they removed paint chips and a piece of rope.

www.newsday.com

 

[fred&edna]

Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney visited the home of suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann on Thursday as an extensive search of the property reached a fourth day.

The prosecutor, who had not previously been seen at the architect’s house all week, spent 20 minutes inside the home before leaving without speaking to reporters gathered down the street.

Crime scene personnel could be seen photographing Heuermann’s front porch, where they removed paint chips and a piece of rope and placed them in evidence bags, before returning other items to the garage late Thursday afternoon. A large-format architect’s printer was among the items taken out of the house, only to be returned hours later.

Gilgo Beach killings: Suffolk DA Ray Tierney visits suspected killer's house amid extensive search

Crime scene personnel were seen photographing the porch, where they removed paint chips and a piece of rope.

www.newsday.com

The camera lens is pointed upwards towards the interior of the porch roof... couple that with rope and paint chips. Did a victim's belongings hang from that porch or what?? Yeah, my mind whirls with thoughts because I've spent so many years on WS. This RH is one evil psycho torture killer freak and has been for years and years and years.

 

[NyxNY]

Floor plan or floor fan? I'm confused. Article is behind a paywall for me.

Good lord, WHERE is my head at? Thank you for pointing that out. It is indeed Floor fan.