Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Kudzuu]

ITA! He had access to so many properties that he doesn't (has never) owned during periods of construction.

jmo

I can believe he may have used them to dispose of bodies. But RH is a hoarder and a SK. No way he didn't have trophies hidden in that house. And he may have buried trophies around the yard.

Just my opinion.

If they find these items maybe the can also find the victims DNA.

MOO

 

[sunshineray]

Why call the medical examiner? Not for blood evidence, that would be forensics job. What did they find, bones or maybe teeth squirreled away somewhere?

"On Monday, Suffolk County’s medical examiner was seen arriving on scene, which law enforcement experts said is unusual for a search warrant.
“To me, if the medical examiner is there, that means they found something already,” said Michael Alcazar, retired NYPD detective and adjunct professor with John Jay College of Criminal Justice. “Medical examiners are typically very busy. For them to be on site, there’s something very revealing, something very important to the case that they recovered.”

What new evidence could have triggered another search at suspected Gilgo Beach killer Heuermann's home?

Sources confirm to News 12 that the home is being searched. It is not clear what police are looking for.

longisland.news12.com

 

[dotr]

Speculation, imo.
If RH created architectural drawings on the printer, maybe he inserted a code, a symbol, a key, a number, an illustration etc. to surreptitiously note where he might have hidden certain things or activities?

 

[fred&edna]

I can believe he may have used them to dispose of bodies. But RH is a hoarder and a SK. No way he didn't have trophies hidden in that house. And he may have buried trophies around the yard.

Just my opinion.

If they find these items maybe the can also find the victims DNA.

MOO

Oh I agree... definitely in his house. I just think there could be hidden items on/in other properties and structures also.

 

[grannygates]

I wonder if being a hoarder makes a serial killer even more likely to keep trophies ?

 

[snarast]

I wonder if being a hoarder makes a serial killer even more likely to keep trophies ?

I don’t think so. But it does make it easier for say a filling in a tooth etc to remain in the building because the place rarely gets completely cleaned.

 

[Gemmie]

I wonder if being a hoarder makes a serial killer even more likely to keep trophies ?

My vote is yes, it does. It's hard to throw ANYTHING away when you're a hoarder. I'm borderline because anytime I get rid of something, even if I haven't used it in decades, I'll ALWAYS find a need for it shortly after getting rid of it. That makes it very, very hard to get rid of things. My fear of needing it in the future.

So, since I know how it feels (but I'm not at his level. I don't have an over-cluttered house), I can only imagine that not only is it hard for him to get rid of something, but REALLY hard to get rid of something that can bring back feelings and memories of the event. It's sickening to even think about.

 

[Warwick1991]

Nope, and I'm watching every day, SOOOO want to know what exactly they were looking for.

If they didn't find it, we might never know, I would guess? I hope we hear like something, anything. I'm guessing something small (?) because it looks like a "needle in the haystack" situation, oh, this (small but important item) could be anywhere. Obviously, though, lots of other possibilities. So curious, seriously. OH, and did anyone hear about the removal of the "printer," or they were looking at some device called a "printer" on that second search? Right here:

Earlier this week, police removed multiple boxes, household items, electronics and a large format printer.

Home of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann searched for 5th straight day

Investigators were seen Friday removing a large object covered in a blue tarp.

longisland.news12.com

One YouTuber I watched noted these architects might use a particular device for blueprints, and I think they also mentioned 3D. And they said this might be the "printer." How scary is that in light of the idea that he had some secret space/area/dungeon built into that home?? I just searched for "printer architecture 3D" on Google. "WebArchitectural 3D printers are used to make large-format prints of architectural blueprints for civil engineers, architects, civil engineers, and so on." That's potentially alarming.

There's nothing sinister or unusual about an architect owning a large format printer. It's a tool of the trade, and has replaced the long-obsolete blueprint machine. It is necessary to print copies of project drawings for distribution to permit agencies, engineering consultants, clients and contractors. Formerly, architects and engineers would send their master drawings to a blueprint company off site, but many now have their own printers. Since most construction drawings are now done via computer aided drafting (CAD), such printers are linked to computers and print from drawing files.

 

[Kudzuu]

Oh I agree... definitely in his house. I just think there could be hidden items on/in other properties and structures also.

Would not surprise me at all. He could sit in his truck near the place and relive the experience. IMO

He's a real sicko.

 

[Just K]

Would not surprise me at all. He could sit in his truck near the place and relive the experience. IMO

He's a real sicko.

Absolutely, or just to get thrills out of leaving things hidden inside an “upscale” house. He apparently didn’t treat many of these owners very well. Maybe leaving things as his personal mark on places. You know how some builders put their name or initials on buildings.

 

[snooptroop88]

SBM
I was thinking exactly the same thing. The windows are fabulous. But there is some strange psychology involved in RH keeping this house exactly like it was in his youth. Obviously, it's not a love of mid century architecture because it looks like he went to the trouble of exactly matching the trim work under the eaves of the house but didn't even bother to carry the paint job all the way up. It's almost like he only cared about what he could see as he drove up the drive. No love of the house, just a need for visual reminders of something. His youth ? His father ? I dunno.

Totally agreed. Well, but it undoubtedly doesn't look exactly as it did in his youth. Then, it probably looked good. He drove it over the cliff because we're seeing that house many decades later and he took no care of it. Why? 100% agreed, there's something really important behind his decision to do that.

Just noting, though, the inside of the house is in much better shape MOO, based solely on that image I could find of the interior. But is that single image enough to base a conclusion on? No way, but at the same time, couldn't help but notice.

Generally speaking, I think he took that house straight to hell, and it would be interesting to know why. But yes, I do think in that one image of the interior, the interior looks far, far better than the exterior. I'm weighing that, though, against what I've heard YouTubers noting about the condition of the interior, and it isn't the pretty picture like that Christmas image.

 

[Gemmie]

Absolutely, or just to get thrills out of leaving things hidden inside an “upscale” house. He apparently didn’t treat many of these owners very well. Maybe leaving things as his personal mark on places. You know how some builders put their name or initials on buildings.

BBMFF

Your comment made me wonder what might be hidden behind the walls.

 

[vls12345]

Not defending RH in any way, but maybe his wife is more of a hoarder than him. So maybe not all of it is his mess, he just adapted and lived around it. I say all this from my own experience with hoarders in my family. Imo, whoever does the hoarding likely has depression (but won't seek treatment) and a bevy of other issues. Asa's defiant attitude during the initial search kind of reminded me of how a hoarder reacts when someone approaches their stash. So, maybe he just existed in the mess, didn't update the house for various reasons (hoarders don't seem to like change so Asa may have not wanted him to get work done, work, too much time with after work activities, not handy, miserly, etc.) and it's not a factor in the killings (other than it is easier to hide or lose things in a hoard). Just my random observations based on nothing but my own opinion.

 

[FromGermany1]

Totally agreed. Well, but it undoubtedly doesn't look exactly as it did in his youth. Then, it probably looked good. He drove it over the cliff because we're seeing that house many decades later and he took no care of it. Why? 100% agreed, there's something really important behind his decision to do that.

Just noting, though, the inside of the house is in much better shape MOO, based solely on that image I could find of the interior. But is that single image enough to base a conclusion on? No way, but at the same time, couldn't help but notice.

Generally speaking, I think he took that house straight to hell, and it would be interesting to know why. But yes, I do think in that one image of the interior, the interior looks far, far better than the exterior. I'm weighing that, though, against what I've heard YouTubers noting about the condition of the interior, and it isn't the pretty picture like that Christmas image.

I'm noticing, that RH on the second attempt found just the right wife suitable to his imagination of living. Because to me AE doesn't make the impression of being especially subservient, I think, it is her own lifestyle, she probably also always wanted and then got with this architect. They had their joys in life, and it weren't new furniture or new carpets or a new fassade. AE was able to take journeys to Iceland (even with her children) and also to Comic conventions and where ever else. What he indulged in, we know.
With his first wife, this concept of life might not have been so easy to realize. He tried, and it wasn't, what he needed. AE tried too and had to change for reasons, afaik. - Of course MOO and speculation.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

I wonder if during this search they started taking more of his family members belongings because they realize he may have used them to commit his crimes while they were abroad? For example, the pink backpack and shoe box look like something that would belong to the daughter and one of the women of the house, respectively. Same with the diapers and wipes in the bin that may not have been his but belonged to his wife or kids.

The huge pill bottles indicate that one or more of his victims were found to have ingested a drug or vitamin he gave them/forced upon them? Perhaps this may be more likely if he kept a victim alive and captive for more than one or two days. Like before the pills could have at one point belonged to his wife or kids but he stole or used them without their permission or knowledge?

Just my own speculation could be wrong of course

 

[FromGermany1]

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I wonder if during this search they started taking more of his family members belongings because they realize he may have used them to commit his crimes while they were abroad? For example, the pink backpack and shoe box look like something that would belong to the daughter and one of the women of the house, respectively. Same with the diapers and wipes in the bin that may not have been his but belonged to his wife or kids.

The huge pill bottles indicate that one or more of his victims were found to have ingested a drug or vitamin he gave them/forced upon them? Perhaps this may be more likely if he kept a victim alive and captive for more than one or two days. Like before the pills could have at one point belonged to his wife or kids but he stole or used them without their permission or knowledge?

Just my own speculation could be wrong of course

I'm asking myself: What is the plan for what should be searched and what should not? I would like to know these logistical processes.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Nope, and I'm watching every day, SOOOO want to know what exactly they were looking for.

If they didn't find it, we might never know, I would guess? I hope we hear like something, anything. I'm guessing something small (?) because it looks like a "needle in the haystack" situation, oh, this (small but important item) could be anywhere. Obviously, though, lots of other possibilities. So curious, seriously. OH, and did anyone hear about the removal of the "printer," or they were looking at some device called a "printer" on that second search? Right here:

Earlier this week, police removed multiple boxes, household items, electronics and a large format printer.

Home of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann searched for 5th straight day

Investigators were seen Friday removing a large object covered in a blue tarp.

longisland.news12.com

One YouTuber I watched noted these architects might use a particular device for blueprints, and I think they also mentioned 3D. And they said this might be the "printer." How scary is that in light of the idea that he had some secret space/area/dungeon built into that home?? I just searched for "printer architecture 3D" on Google. "WebArchitectural 3D printers are used to make large-format prints of architectural blueprints for civil engineers, architects, civil engineers, and so on." That's potentially alarming.

From a Bing search for "When were large format printers invented?"
Dr Behrokh Khoshnevis, an academic based in California, first envisioned 3D printing larger layers on huge, industrial-scale printers in the mid-1990s.

The Complete History of 3D Printing: From 1980 to 2023 - ​

There is mention that the process actually goes back to the 1950s.​

What is the interest in the printer? Any ideas?

 

[sunshineray]

Totally agreed. Well, but it undoubtedly doesn't look exactly as it did in his youth. Then, it probably looked good. He drove it over the cliff because we're seeing that house many decades later and he took no care of it. Why? 100% agreed, there's something really important behind his decision to do that.

Just noting, though, the inside of the house is in much better shape MOO, based solely on that image I could find of the interior. But is that single image enough to base a conclusion on? No way, but at the same time, couldn't help but notice.

Generally speaking, I think he took that house straight to hell, and it would be interesting to know why. But yes, I do think in that one image of the interior, the interior looks far, far better than the exterior. I'm weighing that, though, against what I've heard YouTubers noting about the condition of the interior, and it isn't the pretty picture like that Christmas image.

The pictures I've seen the house looks a mess. Is that after the first search?

 

[sunshineray]

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I wonder if during this search they started taking more of his family members belongings because they realize he may have used them to commit his crimes while they were abroad? For example, the pink backpack and shoe box look like something that would belong to the daughter and one of the women of the house, respectively. Same with the diapers and wipes in the bin that may not have been his but belonged to his wife or kids.

The huge pill bottles indicate that one or more of his victims were found to have ingested a drug or vitamin he gave them/forced upon them? Perhaps this may be more likely if he kept a victim alive and captive for more than one or two days. Like before the pills could have at one point belonged to his wife or kids but he stole or used them without their permission or knowledge?

Just my own speculation could be wrong of course

Why in the heck would LE be taking bags if unused diapers as evidence?

 

[lonewanderer]

Not defending RH in any way, but maybe his wife is more of a hoarder than him. So maybe not all of it is his mess, he just adapted and lived around it. I say all this from my own experience with hoarders in my family. Imo, whoever does the hoarding likely has depression (but won't seek treatment) and a bevy of other issues. Asa's defiant attitude during the initial search kind of reminded me of how a hoarder reacts when someone approaches their stash. So, maybe he just existed in the mess, didn't update the house for various reasons (hoarders don't seem to like change so Asa may have not wanted him to get work done, work, too much time with after work activities, not handy, miserly, etc.) and it's not a factor in the killings (other than it is easier to hide or lose things in a hoard). Just my random observations based on nothing but my own opinion.

Ya know, my great-uncle was married to a woman who hoarded newspapers. The entire house was stacked with them and there was basically a bunch of hallways made of newspaper stacks. I remember my brother and I sitting on the stacks as furniture.

They lived an hour or two away and we didn't visit them often, so I don't remember too many details.

I do know though, when she passed away, the newspaper where taken out of the house right away. The people helping my uncle uncovered a stash of Playboys in the bathroom. His reaction "Ohhhh i didn't put those there. Wonder why those are in here?" (cmon now ) He then married a woman about a week later that looked EXACTLY like her.

The point of this boring story? My uncle used the hoarding to hide things, maybe Rex did too?