Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Jade]

Here's the sketch.

Here's the newly seen pictures of a younger RH.
The redness RH often has seems indicated in the sketch around the nose?

RH has a sort of narrow inner face in some pictures then in others his jowls make his face look wider.
The hair and hairline complete with the straggly side bangs seems consistent with RH?

imo

 

[x_files]

So Derek in town 11 days no note of taking back to airport seems a long time to cut posts on bandsaw considering he is a woodworker.

ok, Did I miss something Who the heck is DEREK? A close friend? Or his alter ego?

 

[x_files]

Regarding the BELT with the initial stamped on it. Was it his father's or grandfather's belt and if so was it used to punish him as a child?
I don't expect anyone to know the answer. Curious if this is a significant triggering item.

 

[iamshadow21]

Regarding the BELT with the initial stamped on it. Was it his father's or grandfather's belt and if so was it used to punish him as a child?
I don't expect anyone to know the answer. Curious if this is a significant triggering item.

Grandfather. I know it was dug over some time ago in the threads, but I'm not sure when, so here's an article from the Post.

Distinctive initialed belt used to bind Gilgo Beach victim could match Rex Heuermann relatives

The belt may tie Maureen Brainard-Barnes, who vanished in 2007, to suspect Rex Heuermann.

nypost.com

No idea if it had a significance for him or was just a belt he didn't use that was convenient for typing up a body, or as a murder weapon.

MOO

 

[Diddian]

ok, Did I miss something Who the heck is DEREK? A close friend? Or his alter ego?

I don’t think we know WHO Derek is or even if he is an invention to explain away RH’s absence or activities.

The name Derek is noted twice in the calendar excerpt from RH’s Palm Pilot included as page 14 of the June 6, 2024 Bail Application. One note Wednesday, July 16, 2003 references picking up “Derek at 6 am for airport” and the other on Sunday, July 27, 2003 references Derek coming to house between 10 to 11 am to cut 6x6 post on band saw. The calendar entry immediately after - from 12 to 1 pm - is “Camp Smith Match.”

Jessica went missing in the days between those two dates.

AE was in Vermont for the last week of that time period.

Could the mention of Derek’s presence at the house on the 27th have been to explain away the sounds of the operation of the band saw in case a neighbor later mentioned it to AE when she returned from Vermont? And the earlier 6 am notation have been to explain away RH’s early morning absence from home and his need to drive his vehicle that day? That is, is “Derek” used to create cover stories?

ETA: Just noticed that the calendar excerpt included with the Superceded Bail Application was printed 12/26/2023 at 3:19 pm. So, while many of us were tucked into the heart of our families enjoying our Christmas holiday, some LE officer or agent was hard at work investigating these horrendous crimes. God bless them.

 

[x_files]

Grandfather. I know it was dug over some time ago in the threads, but I'm not sure when, so here's an article from the Post.

Distinctive initialed belt used to bind Gilgo Beach victim could match Rex Heuermann relatives

The belt may tie Maureen Brainard-Barnes, who vanished in 2007, to suspect Rex Heuermann.

nypost.com

No idea if it had a significance for him or was just a belt he didn't use that was convenient for typing up a body, or as a murder weapon.

MOO

Thank you!
WH=William Heuermann on the belt.

When reading about the Happy Face Killer to whom he corresponded his Wikipedia page mentions his father beat him with a belt.
Curious if abuse was ever mentioned regarding RH's childhood, esp. from his own father.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Regarding the BELT with the initial stamped on it. Was it his father's or grandfather's belt and if so was it used to punish him as a child?
I don't expect anyone to know the answer. Curious if this is a significant triggering item.

WH was the grandfather. TH was his father.
Who knows if the belt was anything more than just a belt to RH, one of three belts that HR used to tie up his victim.

"The belt — first teased as a possible clue in 2020 — was one of three used to tie 25-year-old Brainard-Barnes’ feet, ankles and legs together, Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney told Newsday on Thursday.

“Yes, there was ‘WH’ or ‘HM’ on the belt. The last name is Heuermann. There are ancestors with WH, so assign to that what you will,” Tierney said.

Distinctive initialed belt used to bind Gilgo Beach victim ...​

New York Post
https://nypost.com › 2023/08/04 › gilgo-beach-victim-...




https://nypost.com/2023/08/04/gilgo-beach-victim-was-bound-with-distinctive-wh-or-hm-belt/
Aug 4, 2023 — The belt may tie Maureen Brainard-Barnes, who vanished in 2007, to suspect Rex Heuermann.

 

[x_files]

WH was the grandfather. TH was his father.
Who knows if the belt was anything more than just a belt to RH, one of three belts that HR used to tie up his victim.

"The belt — first teased as a possible clue in 2020 — was one of three used to tie 25-year-old Brainard-Barnes’ feet, ankles and legs together, Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney told Newsday on Thursday.

“Yes, there was ‘WH’ or ‘HM’ on the belt. The last name is Heuermann. There are ancestors with WH, so assign to that what you will,” Tierney said.

Distinctive initialed belt used to bind Gilgo Beach victim ...​

New York Post
https://nypost.com › 2023/08/04 › gilgo-beach-victim-...




Distinctive initialed belt used to bind Gilgo Beach victim could match Rex Heuermann relatives
Aug 4, 2023 — The belt may tie Maureen Brainard-Barnes, who vanished in 2007, to suspect Rex Heuermann.

I feel the use of this belt is significant.
It looks like the initials were carved by hand.

 

[IDK]

View attachment 509760
Here's the sketch.

Here's the newly seen pictures of a younger RH.
The redness RH often has seems indicated in the sketch around the nose?

RH has a sort of narrow inner face in some pictures then in others his jowls make his face look wider.
The hair and hairline complete with the straggly side bangs seems consistent with RH?

imo

It looks like he was pretty obese in those pictures. I guess the witness might have missed that fact if he was seated in a vehicle?

That old phrase that’s been mentioned about him before also comes to mind:

“The banality of evil”

 

[Just K]

I don’t think we know WHO Derek is or even if he is an invention to explain away RH’s absence or activities.

The name Derek is noted twice in the calendar excerpt from RH’s Palm Pilot included as page 14 of the June 6, 2024 Bail Application. One note Wednesday, July 16, 2003 references picking up “Derek at 6 am for airport” and the other on Sunday, July 27, 2003 references Derek coming to house between 10 to 11 am to cut 6x6 post on band saw. The calendar entry immediately after - from 12 to 1 pm - is “Camp Smith Match.”

Jessica went missing in the days between those two dates.

AE was in Vermont for the last week of that time period.

Could the mention of Derek’s presence at the house on the 27th have been to explain away the sounds of the operation of the band saw in case a neighbor later mentioned it to AE when she returned from Vermont? And the earlier 6 am notation have been to explain away RH’s early morning absence from home and his need to drive his vehicle that day? That is, is “Derek” used to create cover stories?

ETA: Just noticed that the calendar excerpt included with the Superceded Bail Application was printed 12/26/2023 at 3:19 pm. So, while many of us were tucked into the heart of our families enjoying our Christmas holiday, some LE officer or agent was hard at work investigating these horrendous crimes. God bless them.

Or there really is a Derek and he wanted his fingerprints on the saw, ugh!

 

[Izzylizzy]

I don’t think we know WHO Derek is or even if he is an invention to explain away RH’s absence or activities.

The name Derek is noted twice in the calendar excerpt from RH’s Palm Pilot included as page 14 of the June 6, 2024 Bail Application. One note Wednesday, July 16, 2003 references picking up “Derek at 6 am for airport” and the other on Sunday, July 27, 2003 references Derek coming to house between 10 to 11 am to cut 6x6 post on band saw. The calendar entry immediately after - from 12 to 1 pm - is “Camp Smith Match.”

Jessica went missing in the days between those two dates.

AE was in Vermont for the last week of that time period.

Could the mention of Derek’s presence at the house on the 27th have been to explain away the sounds of the operation of the band saw in case a neighbor later mentioned it to AE when she returned from Vermont? And the earlier 6 am notation have been to explain away RH’s early morning absence from home and his need to drive his vehicle that day? That is, is “Derek” used to create cover stories?

ETA: Just noticed that the calendar excerpt included with the Superceded Bail Application was printed 12/26/2023 at 3:19 pm. So, while many of us were tucked into the heart of our families enjoying our Christmas holiday, some LE officer or agent was hard at work investigating these horrendous crimes. God bless them.

BBM:
Beautifully said and a well needed reminder.

 

[Ruby_PA]

I feel the use of this belt is significant.
It looks like the initials were carved by hand.

I wonder if he used this specifically to give a clue to LE as a way of taunting them?
I also wonder if AE ever saw the news reports on this belt and the picture of it in 2020, if she recognized it at all or was even slightly suspicious.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Interestingly the witnesses did see a tall man.

I think it might be significant they note he was tall. That sets the man apart from average or a bit taller making the man seen rarer in the general population?

>>
The student’s sister said several witnesses had seen a tall white man in the area, and a couple of sketches were later made.
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https://pix11.com/news/suspect-sket...ike-accused-gilgo-killer-victims-family-says/






RH wasn’t as ogre-y when he was younger, imo.

Picture at: 32 on Ruminations link

Sure looks like RH!

The sketch at: 31 in the video

https://pix11.com/news/suspect-sket...ike-accused-gilgo-killer-victims-family-says/


all imo

I'm having such trouble finding that sketch. But the embedded articles in the SC articles are pretty amazing.

SC is really bubbling, isn't ?
I really hope LE says something soon.

 

[Just K]

It looks like he was pretty obese in those pictures. I guess the witness might have missed that fact if he was seated in a vehicle?

That old phrase that’s been mentioned about him before also comes to mind:

“The banality of evil”

The recent uncovered pictures are from 2008. Alicia Showalter Reynolds was murdered in 1996. If we look at pics of him since 1990 (wedding announcement) through the 90s he was very much thinner. The first pic is one of the suspect sketches from 1996. 2. 1990 wedding 3. Oops, his father Late HS or soon thereafter. 4. Is HS 5. Is a map from mom’s Palmyra house to where ASR was last seen. It was a straight shot down RT 15 to his mother’s home. The tag “A” is where here body was found in Lignum off a logging road.

 

[Ruminations]

View attachment 509760
Here's the sketch.

Here's the newly seen pictures of a younger RH.
The redness RH often has seems indicated in the sketch around the nose?

RH has a sort of narrow inner face in some pictures then in others his jowls make his face look wider.
The hair and hairline complete with the straggly side bangs seems consistent with RH?

imo

He really never significantly changed up his hair style or glasses style. His clothes are pretty consistent, too.

Interesting that he was flexible about his MO with his victims and choosing consensual sex/swing partners, but seems pretty rigid about his appearance.

MOO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Interestingly the witnesses did see a tall man.

I think it might be significant they note he was tall. That sets the man apart from average or a bit taller making the man seen rarer in the general population?

>>
The student’s sister said several witnesses had seen a tall white man in the area, and a couple of sketches were later made.
>>
https://pix11.com/news/suspect-sket...ike-accused-gilgo-killer-victims-family-says/






RH wasn’t as ogre-y when he was younger, imo.

Picture at: 32 on Ruminations link

Sure looks like RH!

The sketch at: 31 in the video

https://pix11.com/news/suspect-sket...ike-accused-gilgo-killer-victims-family-says/


all imo

Also...thanks for highlighting the "tall man". I know earlier I saw 5.9---6.0 feet
Somewhere.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I feel the use of this belt is significant.
It looks like the initials were carved by hand.

IMO:
Maybe RH's first wife ER was able to give LE info on his relationship with his father and mother?
Something tells me that his brother CH wouldn't be forthcoming and we don't know what other, if any relatives were questioned.

Using and then leaving the belt that has your relative's initials on it that you used in a crime seems like a calling card..but to who and why?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

The recent uncovered pictures are from 2008. Alicia Showalter Reynolds was murdered in 1996. If we look at pics of him since 1990 (wedding announcement) through the 90s he was very much thinner. The first pic is one of the suspect sketches from 1996. 2. 1990 wedding 3. Late HS or soon thereafter. 4. Is HS 5. Is a map from mom’s Palmyra house to where ASR was last seen. It was a straight shot down RT 15 to his mother’s home. The tag “A” is where here body was found in Lignum off a logging road.
View attachment 509792

Thanks for adding the sketch, though more of a portrait!!!

 

[Friday13]

The recent uncovered pictures are from 2008. Alicia Showalter Reynolds was murdered in 1996. If we look at pics of him since 1990 (wedding announcement) through the 90s he was very much thinner. The first pic is one of the suspect sketches from 1996. 2. 1990 wedding 3. Late HS or soon thereafter. 4. Is HS 5. Is a map from mom’s Palmyra house to where ASR was last seen. It was a straight shot down RT 15 to his mother’s home. The tag “A” is where here body was found in Lignum off a logging road.
View attachment 509792

The third photo is RH’s father in high school, not RH

 

[Deleted member 117884]

The recent uncovered pictures are from 2008. Alicia Showalter Reynolds was murdered in 1996. If we look at pics of him since 1990 (wedding announcement) through the 90s he was very much thinner. The first pic is one of the suspect sketches from 1996. 2. 1990 wedding 3. Late HS or soon thereafter. 4. Is HS 5. Is a map from mom’s Palmyra house to where ASR was last seen. It was a straight shot down RT 15 to his mother’s home. The tag “A” is where here body was found in Lignum off a logging road.
View attachment 509792

Is that third picture really him? Or his father?

jmo