Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Izzylizzy]

Geeezz....this very thought has just been growing in my gut so much recently. I just bet many of us have been feeling this same thing...

This thought that there was no friggin way that all this was soooo hidden.

 

[x_files]

I so hope Asa isn’t involved. I really, really want her to be innocent.

Or he involved his stepson against his will.

 

[Warwick7]

I have permission from Sillybilly to post this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1800916116635898192

Reminder of Asa's track record...kind of

Filed for divorce, possibly stopped it.
Was going to sell the house
Stayed instead.
Double flipped off the media.
Peacock signing.
She insisted her hubby was “not capable” of carrying out the four murders and that she was giving him “the benefit of the doubt.”
Says she will decide after evidence is presented in court.
She says that if Heuermann did commit the murders he was "living a double life" she knew nothing about it.
She posts a sign to LE and others "do not trespass."

And lest we forget the affidavit.

The first witness, Ray said, went to Heuermann’s house for a sex party in February 1996 with her boyfriend, who was a cop, and Vergata. Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, was at the house when they arrived, the witness said in an affidavit. The witness said that Vergata went downstairs and that Heuermann and her boyfriend vanished for a while. During that time, she spoke with Ellerup, who said that Heuermann had “brought her from her country and that everything she had, he has given her,” the affidavit states.

Victim Lawyer: Gilgo Beach Suspect Tied to 2 More Dead Women

And Rex Heuermann’s wife was allegedly in the house when he had escorts over for basement sex sessions.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Vaderman]

Hold on to your hats!

Is this a significant development? I've only watched one of his press conferences, and it came off as...odd and speculative to me. You're grounded and reasonable though, so this gives me some hope it could be a big deal?

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Or he involved his stepson against his will.

ugh, I hope not.

I'm trying not to jump to conclusions but it is hard not to first think his wife knew something about his activities.

But, it could be a sibling, hunting buddy, or someone else we don't know about.

And it could be malarkey.

jmo

 

[twall]

Is this a significant development? I've only watched one of his press conferences, and it came off as...odd and speculative to me. You're grounded and reasonable though, so this gives me some hope it could be a big deal?

He has been on NewsNation and CourtTV speculating more than one person is involved in the murders (coughAEcough) due to the document found on RH's hard drive stating it listed hair netS.

 

[x_files]

ugh, I hope not.

I'm trying not to jump to conclusions but it is hard not to first think his wife knew something about his activities.

But, it could be a sibling, hunting buddy, or someone else we don't know about.

And it could be malarkey.

jmo

I think having to wait 24 hours to find out is going to make me a bit crazy.
Trying hard Not to jump to any conclusions. It could be as simple as Asa knew he visited SW and was OK with it.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Thank you!
WH=William Heuermann on the belt.

When reading about the Happy Face Killer to whom he corresponded his Wikipedia page mentions his father beat him with a belt.
Curious if abuse was ever mentioned regarding RH's childhood, esp. from his own father.

Again where I wish we could hear from ER, first wife. Relationship to his dad (and more info on HIS death) would be sooo valuable.

This is the kind of stuff they hold for court though.

 

[Warwick7]

It's a positive thing individuals felt they could go to John Ray with information. With the likes of ex-officer Burke, anyone needed to be careful.

"Ray said four women have recently contacted him and detailed past experiences with Heuermann, and two of them signed affidavits.
These women were uniquely credible. They had details that they could express, each of them, that certainly makes you say, ‘Those details don’t just pop up because somebody invents them,'” Ray said."

Witnesses describe encounters with Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann

One of the witnesses said she had a previous encounter with Heuermann at a well-known swinger’s club near Heuermann’s Manhattan office.

www.newsnationnow.com

 

[Ruby_PA]

If his siblings or Mother watched the news they must have recognized the belt!
Unless this wasn't ever on the news.

BBM it was ALL OVER the news in 2020. There is no way she didn't see the picture of the belt when it was first released as a new clue. I just wonder if she recognized it at all or had any suspicions at the time...

 

[NicMed329]

Also Amity meeting Is that for alcohol and drugs
Or to find people who have these issues?

Probably meaning Amityville which is the next town over imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

A calling card or leaving a signature.
I think he despised eveither his grandfather and/or his Father for abuse or perceived abuse.

His high school classmates said that he was a "momma's boy" which has been interpreted by h
those who investigated and write about SK'ers as very concerning and he never spoke about his father, that is until the interview he did and the woodworking that he learned from him.

Was his mother and him abused by the father , did the father abuse him and the mother never protected him and just clung to him?

The father could have been an absolute sweetheart and we may never know the real story unless someone starts talking and it can be confirmed.

 

[iamshadow21]

Is this a significant development? I've only watched one of his press conferences, and it came off as...odd and speculative to me. You're grounded and reasonable though, so this gives me some hope it could be a big deal?

What I will say about Ray is that he has been dedicated to keeping this case in the headlines.

When he holds press conferences, it's always dramatic, even when I don't necessarily think the information he has is likely to be useful in the way he thinks it will be.

I don't necessarily agree with all of his conclusions, but that's the wonderful thing about opinions. We're all allowed to have them.

I respect that he fought to keep the victims in the public eye when no one in LE seemed to care. That matters.

MOO

 

[Eaglette]

I think having to wait 24 hours to find out is going to make me a bit crazy.
Trying hard Not to jump to any conclusions. It could be as simple as Asa knew he visited SW and was OK with it.

I have to agree (sans the "bit crazy").

1) IMO AE turned a blind eye to all of RH's sick addictions.
2) Cadaver "coffee book" on the kitchen table surely needs explained.
3) AE's pay off could have been "RH's coercive control" - "you get a holiday wifey and I get SW"
4) That makes AE complicit to some degree?
5) "an open marriage"

As we still don't have clarification whether the Divorce happened or not.

All IMO

 

[Just K]

Thanks for adding the sketch, though more of a portrait!!!

I always thought that composite was drawn from some surveillance image.

 

[IDK]

The recent uncovered pictures are from 2008. Alicia Showalter Reynolds was murdered in 1996. If we look at pics of him since 1990 (wedding announcement) through the 90s he was very much thinner. The first pic is one of the suspect sketches from 1996. 2. 1990 wedding 3. Oops, his father Late HS or soon thereafter. 4. Is HS 5. Is a map from mom’s Palmyra house to where ASR was last seen. It was a straight shot down RT 15 to his mother’s home. The tag “A” is where here body was found in Lignum off a logging road.
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Thank you for the clarification!

 

[IDK]

Yes, but in other pictures in that video he doesn’t look as notably obese.

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Exclusive: Never-before-seen photos show Rex Heuermann around the time of the Gilgo Beach killings



Maybe when he is standing all tall and important he slims up like in some of his pictures.

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Witnesses say the tall man was seen in the area so maybe just not in a vehicle?


all imo

All good points!!!

 

[Warwick7]

What I will say about Ray is that he has been dedicated to keeping this case in the headlines.

When he holds press conferences, it's always dramatic, even when I don't necessarily think the information he has is likely to be useful in the way he thinks it will be.

I don't necessarily agree with all of his conclusions, but that's the wonderful thing about opinions. We're all allowed to have them.

I respect that he fought to keep the victims in the public eye when no one in LE seemed to care. That matters.

MOO

He is quirky but he gets the job done.
Last October he held a press conference. Ray said that new evidence has been uncovered that could link Heuermann to Karen Vergata.

As it stands, with that affidavit signed by the witness, it looks like Ray did have it right.

 

[x_files]

BBM it was ALL OVER the news in 2020. There is no way she didn't see the picture of the belt when it was first released as a new clue. I just wonder if she recognized it at all or had any suspicions at the time...

Yeah, that's what I thought too! Unless his extended family doesn't watch the news.

 

[fred&edna]

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1800916116635898192

I wonder if he has another witness who has come forward (and signed an affidavit) regarding RH family member?

I'm always waiting for LE/DA to use (prove/disprove) any info in the affidavits.

jmo