Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Romans12]

That's very interesting. There are 8.53 miles from New Bedford to Westport in southwest direction and 13 miles (20.92 kilometers) by car, following the US-6 route.

Local – NBC Boston

In-depth news coverage of the Greater Boston and New England area.

www.necn.com

From article: A spokesperson for the agency said the FBI's Evidence Response Team is out on Route 88 in Westport "in connection with an ongoing, multi-jurisdictional investigation."
One would wonder if RH is tied into the murders in New Bedford, the New Bedford Highway Killer.
Source: "The women, in their 20s and 30s, had ties to drugs and prostitution in the New Bedford area and began vanishing
That's really interesting, honestly. People early on (including myself) have wondered about RH and a connection to New Bedford. And as another strange note, the name of one of the victims is Marilyn Roberts (RH alias "Andy Roberts")

So many “M” first names on his victim list!

 

[eishish]

Do we know the year the different emails were created?

@snooptroop88 was original poster. Even incl a aol email. Will try to find, ty. Hit, 9mm, hunter, miss leader, andy mid name are the meanings

 

[eishish]

@snooptroop88 was original poster. Even incl a aol email. Will try to find, ty. Hit, 9mm, hunter, miss leader, andy mid name are the meanings

2017 for sandbagger, 2021 for t/hawk, hit, a street fighter, or wrestler-any fit. Will find other dates

 

[Romans12]

The “Valentine’s Day” date doesn’t match either. That’s not day she went missing. It was last time her dad talked to her and they didn’t talk every day. It’s widely reported that she was “last seen” on Feb 14, 1996, but that isn’t a confirmed fact. She was in Jail that day, and called her dad from jail on Feb 14.

Her legs washed up on Fire Island 20 April and reports were they hadn’t been in water for that long. (not 2 months)

Not denying probable link to RH - it’s the Valentines date that doesn’t fit. Much more likely met her demise in April 1996. Not Feb 14. Not a violent act commited for significance on St Valentine day. Much less likely a Xmas tree still standing in April.

IMO need more info about her time in jail, who bailed KV and on what date. More info on the creepy cop boyfriend of witness - seems he knows a lot more about “games” and is fine with just walking away when there’s going to be trouble. He also prob knows that LE don’t take missing persons for person out on bail/awaiting trial … he might have actually specially delivered a person not likely to be missed.

I think Rodney Harrison interviewed the “swinger” because info she provided corroborated their own intelligence. I think they made the connection with the burner email names and date he made the fictitious account.

 

[Romans12]

There's something with those wood chips. NYT refers to them as "wood shavings." Wood chips were found with the remains of Rita Tangredi (last seen Nov 1/2 1993, remains recovered Nov 2), Sandra Costilla (body recovered Nov 21), and Colleen McNamee (last seen January 5 1994, body recovered Jan 30). NYT: "At both murder scenes, the killer had left clues. The same item of clothing was missing from both areas, and their nude bodies were posed identically. Near the bodies were wood shavings. And both Ms. McNamee and Ms. Tangredi had been beaten so badly that brain tissue was exposed."

The Nov to January time frame coincides with duck hunting season in New York. Most of these dates also seem to coincide with waterfowl/duck hunting season for Long Island specifically (which can vary, the link below's current website info). Also would be open for turkey hunting, and I believe deer hunting/archery.

Waterfowl Season-Setting

Most migratory game bird seasons are set based on five hunting zones that have been approved by the U.S. Fish Wildlife Service.

dec.ny.gov

Among the many uses for wood chips/shavings would be fuel. If one has a cabin in the woods, one might use wood shavings in a compost system, and particularly a compost heating system. It's pretty cold in NY that time of year. I know someone mentioned on here (and I've seen this as well) that RH owned a duck hunting boat with someone else. I'm wondering now about a cabin, too (not registered in RH's name) and these were in some respect actual hunting (duck, turkey, deer?) trips. But not really, or not completely. These turned into a different type of "hunting" trip like we see in the HK doc. And perhaps it wasn't just the cabin, either, it might have had some underground space/root cellar type of area.

"Near the bodies were wood shavings." Some fabrics really, really hang on to those wood shavings. What if the bodies were wrapped in some kind of fabric that held on to those shavings, and when they removed the bodies, some of those shavings scattered around them? Or what if they'd stored the bodies out in the compost area until they moved them? Maybe they were concealed for a time in compost. I just have a feeling those wood chips are vitally important, MOO.

In the early 1990’s a friend had horse stables and they used wood shavings. Are there horse stables around manorville?

 

[eishish]

2017 for sandbagger, 2021 for t/hawk, hit, a street fighter, or wrestler-any fit. Will find other dates

2011, 21, 23. These had his selfies and all the horrendous searches. Email accouts meaning, gun, hit, hunter as listed in bail doc

 

[Romans12]

well the person making the statement wasn't sure. She said her date RW just kept disappearing downstairs. Why couldn't they both be having sex with Vergata? And the person making the statement said there was a Christmas tree, the photo from Rex's house with the tree was released about Aug 1, the affidavit was signed Aug 31. Are they getting details that they saw on TV or the internet? I am just not sure how much credence to give the affidavit. There isn't an aha moment in it for me. I don't disbelieve it, but I am just not sure. Also would he hurt or kill Karen V with Asa home? And most likely the kids? seems very risky and unlike his behavior

What year was their daughter born? 1996? Or 1997..if she was born in November of 1996 then she was newly pregnant or near the time of conception.

 

[eishish]

What year was their daughter born? 1996? Or 1997..if she was born in November of 1996 then she was newly pregnant or near the time of conception.

Married asa 96, victoria birth 97

 

[willy wagtail]

2017 for sandbagger, 2021 for t/hawk, hit, a street fighter, or wrestler-any fit. Will find other dates

Thanks

 

[eishish]

Thanks

T/hawk is also a hatchet or a type of drone

 

[FromGermany1]

So many “M” first names on his victim list!

I believe, that has a certain reason; can't be only coincidence, when there are so mannny first names to select from! Wonder, if there are also numbers, RH would prefer?

 

[willy wagtail]

I was just looking through unsolved cold cases on fb
Coincidence or not these are some of the Missing people starting with "M"
There are many many more.

 

[FromGermany1]

It seems like it came into his mind as he listed all these things that were potential problems and might get him caught... UNLESS... unless there were things he could do to MISLEAD them on to a different investigative path, leading anywhere but to him. And he obviously thinks he's this super-genius, smarter than all LE anyway, and he may have started thinking he could basically tell them what or how to think, just by purposefully leaving them clues that were really anti- clues! So that he could claw back some of that control that he always felt he had to have in any situation IMO. Committing such barbaric and wild, crazy acts had to necessarily involve giving up some control over the situation, since things never go exactly as planned or the way he'd like them to, since his prey was HUMANS, known to be unpredictable, to put it mildly. Identifying and employing some clever (to him) misleading items or actions, etc. could give him back some of that lost control, allowing him to steer the investigation away from himself

bbm
^^ That!! I took an excerpt of your post, because I'm thinking, it says the most relevant part.

Apropos "super genius": Do you all think, he tried to mislead the investigators, BUT would have liked it always, when a dead victim finally was found and a perp couldn't be established? Without the discovery of a dead victim his super-genius status (in HIS mind) was only worth half, I think. The victim to be "missing" couldn't have been his goal, precisely because SWs aren't searched for very intense by LE.
MOO

 

[Betty P]

What year was their daughter born? 1996? Or 1997..if she was born in November of 1996 then she was newly pregnant or near the time of conception.

She’s 27, per Newsweek article. 'Demonic' details revealed about Rex Heuermann and daughter: 'Human devils'

 

[FromGermany1]

I haven't followed the Bittroilff cases so I'm out of the loop.
Ok, I have a question about this:
"the creepy punishment dolls by the GB4"
I agree if he constantly changed his MO, it would be much harder to connect the dots esp. without DNA or hair.
I think SKs have caught onto the MO and would diversify to NOT get caught.

The punishment dolls (I know them, had bought one, when it was a harmless deko trend here many years ago) I attribute to AE. I believe, in her mind the SWs themselves were to blame for their fate and should be ashamed, even after death. For that AE must have known about the deaths and the locations. Maybe, her husband one day wasn't able to keep the secret to himself any longer and told her. He had to bragg about it, but couldn't do it without big risk, so he possibly used his wife as a listener.
Speculation and feeling and MOO.

 

[Romans12]

She’s 27, per Newsweek article. 'Demonic' details revealed about Rex Heuermann and daughter: 'Human devils'

I just checked online and yes, she was born October 1996

 

[snooptroop88]

The punishment dolls (I know them, had bought one, when it was a harmless deko trend here many years ago) I attribute to AE. I believe, in her mind the SWs themselves were to blame for their fate and should be ashamed, even after death. For that AE must have known about the deaths and the locations. Maybe, her husband one day wasn't able to keep the secret to himself any longer and told her. He had to bragg about it, but couldn't do it without big risk, so he possibly used his wife as a listener.
Speculation and feeling and MOO.

Am holding out hope it's RH rather than AE on the dolls, but realize it could well be the case regardless that it's AE. I can picture RH doing it, though. It's just more of the same, the violent horror, murder of other hb's that he evidently is unphased by and must enjoy. Then he seems to snicker when he leaves little "tokens" that are the equivalent of sick jokes and probably is doubled over in evil laughter that people are appalled and horrified by his little "gestures."

AE's completely out of her mind if she has guilty knowledge and signed on for the Peacock deal. But you'd have to be completely out of your mind to have the guilty knowledge in the first place, so-- we will see. (Those dolls are ghastly in context. If he did that, it's reminding me a lot of BTK.) Did LE recover those dolls or were they taken down by an "unknown someone"? Does anyone know?

 

[eishish]

Am holding out hope it's RH rather than AE on the dolls, but realize it could well be the case regardless that it's AE. I can picture RH doing it, though. It's just more of the same, the violent horror, murder of other hb's that he evidently is unphased by and must enjoy. Then he seems to snicker when he leaves little "tokens" that are the equivalent of sick jokes and probably is doubled over in evil laughter that people are appalled and horrified by his little "gestures."

AE's completely out of her mind if she has guilty knowledge and signed on for the Peacock deal. But you'd have to be completely out of your mind to have the guilty knowledge in the first place, so-- we will see. (Those dolls are ghastly in context. If he did that, it's reminding me a lot of BTK.) Did LE recover those dolls or were they taken down by an "unknown someone"? Does anyone know?

Apparently they were placed and removed by a redditor...my opinion was sw were being mocked and in a corner. A sick gravemarker, but was wrong...a girl placed them!!! I believe 7 in total. Dolls are used for memorials, but not time out. I think they are odd as hell...

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Just my own thoughts but I think the dolls were perhaps left by a local resident as a way to shame, ridicule and disrespect the victims even in death. This individual may have their own bias against sex workers and both dehumanize and discriminate them. The way the dolls are posed with either their backs turned or faces covered seemed to be the way the person projects their own thoughts and feelings regarding sex work onto the victims. They also seem to mock the victims. It seems IMO cruel or just another way to taunt those who have already been denied their right to life, safety, freedom and justice for so long.

It reminded me of how the SCPD and the media also dehumanized the victims found at Gilgo Beach back in 2011 when their remains were first discovered. Their murders were disregarded as well deserved punishments for being sex workers. They were treated as people who cases needed to be solved, whose murders were of course unjust or like fellow human beings who were entitled to safety. Unfortunately, instead of portraying them as those you can see same light as friends, sisters, brothers, neighbor, classmates and such they were just labeled as prostitutes, portrayed as criminals while their lives and deaths were harshly treated like burdensome trash unworthy of empathy or compassion.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Married asa 96, victoria birth 97

No. Macedonio said that the swinger affadavit's statement wasn't true because Asa was pregnant with Victoria at that time. Asa couldn't have Victoria in 1997 and be pregnant with her anytime near Valentine's Day, 1996.

(It was a little rich to listen to male attorneys announce brand new pregnancy
and discuss the impact on the pregnant person's sexual activity, as I recall.)

When Amber Costello disappeared in September of 2010, VH was a month shy of her 14th birthday. 2010-14=1996

Daughter's DNA Helped Link Gilgo Suspect Rex Heuermann To Murders: DA

Nuclear DNA technology led to new information, Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney says.

patch.com

MOO