Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 4 murders, July 2023 #10

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  • #501
Here's John Ray after the Peacock deal was made public.
His most recent or one of his most recent appearances.
@ 5:12 check this out if you don't want to listen to video.

 
  • #502
No
She’d worked most of her life before disability however she inherited a bit from our mother’s estate
Thank you.
An inheritance is not earned income though.
That is where the difference may be.
 
  • #503
My main concern with CH being part of the one million Peacock contract/deal is his ability to understand what he signed and the significance of what it entails for him being that he is "learning disabled" and it appears has been throughout his years.

Who has guardianship of CH?

imo: If it's Asa she has a conflict of interest.

The attorney who represents CH and VH is receiving 200,000 from the Peacock deal to represent the siblings.

 
  • #504
'The comments on behalf of Victoria and Christopher come after their mother broke her silence in her first interview last week where she revealed that she has been left filled with “anxiety” and their two children “cry themselves to sleep” over the horror.

“I woke up in the middle of the night, shivering ... anxiety,” she told The New York Post.

“My children cry themselves to sleep. I mean, they’re not children. They’re grown adults but they’re my children, and my son has developmental disabilities and he cried himself to sleep.”




 
  • #505
This is what really bothers me about Christopher being part of the Peacock deal.


'Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, 59, returned to pick up the pieces with her devastated kids, who’d “cry themselves to sleep,” she said, adding that Christopher, who has developmental disabilities, has been

“so distraught and doesn’t understand.”

Read more at:A SERIAL KILLER IN THE FAMILY


 
  • #506
This is what really bothers me about Christopher being part of the Peacock deal.


'Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, 59, returned to pick up the pieces with her devastated kids, who’d “cry themselves to sleep,” she said, adding that Christopher, who has developmental disabilities, has been

“so distraught and doesn’t understand.”

Read more at:A SERIAL KILLER IN THE FAMILY



I get bad vibes about all of this.
 
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  • #508
'The comments on behalf of Victoria and Christopher come after their mother broke her silence in her first interview last week where she revealed that she has been left filled with “anxiety” and their two children “cry themselves to sleep” over the horror.

“I woke up in the middle of the night, shivering ... anxiety,” she told The New York Post.

“My children cry themselves to sleep. I mean, they’re not children. They’re grown adults but they’re my children, and my son has developmental disabilities and he cried himself to sleep.”




Maybe, a "waking horror show" (title of linked news article) isn't the first one, they -the adult children- have to endure. Maybe, there were "horror shows" in that home before. Sex-adventurer/-addicts and people, who were earning their livelihood with sex, cavorted there, where a (probably) TEENAGER with developmental disabilities had to grow up.

AE with her son, who has issues, is using a nice opportunity to elicit pity. How long and effective had she been doing this?
If I were her, I would immediately stop this behavior. It does her more harm than good.
 
  • #509
DBM
 
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  • #511
This is what really bothers me about Christopher being part of the Peacock deal.


'Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, 59, returned to pick up the pieces with her devastated kids, who’d “cry themselves to sleep,” she said, adding that Christopher, who has developmental disabilities, has been

“so distraught and doesn’t understand.”

Read more at:A SERIAL KILLER IN THE FAMILY


The “disabled” are people, have a “voice” - I won’t judge on this.
He is an adult, doesn’t need to hide. If he can make this decision, on his own, or with support, he has every right. He has the right to make mistakes, poor choices, just like everyone else.
Not my business.
 
  • #512
Maybe, a "waking horror show" (title of linked news article) isn't the first one, they -the adult children- have to endure. Maybe, there were "horror shows" in that home before. Sex-adventurer/-addicts and people, who were earning their livelihood with sex, cavorted there, where a (probably) TEENAGER with developmental disabilities had to grow up.

AE with her son, who has issues, is using a nice opportunity to elicit pity. How long and effective had she been doing this?
If I were her, I would immediately stop this behavior. It does her more harm than good.
When the abnormal becomes normal to children which can entail an enabling spouse.
John Ray said in his video that I posted earlier that RH's brother and partner had lived with them, he didn't say when or for how long, maybe he'll expand on it at his symposium?

His point was their house was small and how did anyone not notice RH's demonic interests?

To me Asa went from out of the frying pan to the fire when she hooked up with Macedonio & Co.
 
  • #513
The “disabled” are people, have a “voice” - I won’t judge on this.
He is an adult, doesn’t need to hide. If he can make this decision, on his own, or with support, he has every right. He has the right to make mistakes, poor choices, just like everyone else.
Not my business.
If CH does have a guardian then he is not "like everyone else".
He would be like others who also have guardians, people who are there to prevent "mistakes,poor choices".
As I stated earlier that imo: if CH does have a guardian and it's Asa, I see that as a conflict of interest.
 
  • #514
If CH does have a guardian then he is not "like everyone else".
He would be like others who also have guardians, people who are there to prevent "mistakes,poor choices".
As I stated earlier that imo: if CH does have a guardian and it's Asa, I see that as a conflict of interest.
We don’t know his legal situation, mental capacity, advisors etc. You are assuming it’s AE alone, u don’t trust her, assuming he can’t make any decisions, but you don’t really know.

You are mistaken about disabled rights. Each person has differing abilities, and about choices they can make. People don’t lose the right to make any decisions due to disability. His abilities, advisors, mental capacity, financial situation are his own business. He is allowed to make mistakes, make poor choices within his decision making capacity. Think about it. Don’t just write-off people because they are different. He can decide what he wants to buy with his own money, he can decide where to go, what movie to see, he can decide to a park. Poor decision would be going on a rainy day. Or buying a TV that’s too big. He’s allowed to make mistakes like other people who make mistakes and poor decisions all the time.
He might be able to decide that he wants to participate, to been SEEN as a person who has something to say. Don’t deny him that. Don’t decide that based on your idea of disability that he does not exist, doesn’t deserve to be seen.
 
  • #515
'The comments on behalf of Victoria and Christopher come after their mother broke her silence in her first interview last week where she revealed that she has been left filled with “anxiety” and their two children “cry themselves to sleep” over the horror.

“I woke up in the middle of the night, shivering ... anxiety,” she told The New York Post.

“My children cry themselves to sleep. I mean, they’re not children. They’re grown adults but they’re my children, and my son has developmental disabilities and he cried himself to sleep.”




I don’t know what to think about AE and her alleged or rumored levels of knowledge and/or participation — but those poor children. Wish they could move to a nice cozy and well maintained, clean bungalow out in Oceanside or Rockville Centre, bringing just essential furniture and things they love, to get out of the mess and a home with now totally horrific associations and gawkers. How can they ever feel comfort or solace again in that house? When coming home, a family house should be like a hug and a safe haven, not a 3-D plus emotional/spiritual assault. IDK. JMO.

Are there aunts or uncles or some extended family who could assist with helping them? They *are* living in a hE11 hole, at a time when they need to feel protected, soothed, loved, unjudged, and embraced in stability. OMO.

In my fantasy for them, they would be indulged with daily visits from a competent social worker, comfort food, cushy upholstered furniture, thick duvets and soft music, cheerful but soothing colors, smells of baking bread and chocolate-chip cookies, and order and organization, with no TV or SM. IMHO.
 
  • #516
We don’t know his legal situation, mental capacity, advisors etc. You are assuming it’s AE alone, u don’t trust her, assuming he can’t make any decisions, but you don’t really know.

You are mistaken about disabled rights. Each person has differing abilities, and about choices they can make. People don’t lose the right to make any decisions due to disability. His abilities, advisors, mental capacity, financial situation are his own business. He is allowed to make mistakes, make poor choices within his decision making capacity. Think about it. Don’t just write-off people because they are different. He can decide what he wants to buy with his own money, he can decide where to go, what movie to see, he can decide to a park. Poor decision would be going on a rainy day. Or buying a TV that’s too big. He’s allowed to make mistakes like other people who make mistakes and poor decisions all the time.
He might be able to decide that he wants to participate, to been SEEN as a person who has something to say. Don’t deny him that. Don’t decide that based on your idea of disability that he does not exist, doesn’t deserve to be seen.
Please refrain from putting your words in my mouth.
 
  • #517
'There must be at least two parties to the contract, both of which must have the capacity to enter into the agreement; that is, each party must understand what he or she is entering into and the consequences of doing so. If a person who does not have this capacity signs the agreement, it may be voided.


Mental Capacity and Contracts - AMA Journal of Ethics


American Medical Association
https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org › article › mental-ca...


'Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, 59, returned to pick up the pieces with her devastated kids, who’d “cry themselves to sleep,” she said, adding that Christopher, who has developmental disabilities, has been

“so distraught and doesn’t understand.”

Read more at:A SERIAL KILLER IN THE FAMILY
 
  • #518
This is an ongoing investigation and I hear them commenting quite a bit that this is "only the beginning." Has anyone considered what's going to happen if RH committed (at least) one of his murders in a death penalty state?
 
  • #519
This is an ongoing investigation and I hear them commenting quite a bit that this is "only the beginning." Has anyone considered what's going to happen if RH committed (at least) one of his murders in a death penalty state?
Alabama, Arizona, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas.
 
  • #520
If CH does have a guardian then he is not "like everyone else".
He would be like others who also have guardians, people who are there to prevent "mistakes,poor choices".
As I stated earlier that imo: if CH does have a guardian and it's Asa, I see that as a conflict of interest.

I think you are both right. Everybody has a right to make their own decisions with autonomy, without regard to ability levels.

But nobody has the right to take advantage of others because of different ability levels, different access to information, etc.

So the question becomes was this poor choice an autonomous poor choice, or was it a situation where a person with different abilities was abused?

I speculate that the Macedonio/Mitov plan all along was to defend Rex and protect others involved in depraved activities, and to monetize this horror. Part of that may have been setting up a guardianship for C.

We don't know, but it does seem plausible that C. was taken advantage of.

MOO
 
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