Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Megnut]

I'm thinking there are places in the basement where Asa and the kids never went. I don't think that is hugely unusual, even in a small house. She might have been happy letting him his own space that didn't involve her.

I am worried about the images he seems he took of the victims - did they end up on the web before he destroyed them? How do perps get the images to look at - somebody has to supply them? So gross and incredibly sad.

jmo

Where is their laundry room, I wonder.

This paneled room, perhaps it was sealed apart from the basement and only reintroduced as common space.

I can't imagine being ANYONE today who had at any time for any reason been in that basement. Horrors.

JMO

 

[Teche]

According to the timeline, his first wife had recently moved out of their house.

Witness 3 is likely his first wife.

Edit: Updated to reflect bail doc.

By witness, do they imply that the witness saw the murder and/or dumping of the body.

 

[Bobbbbberson]

I don't understand the thing with the cat litter?

Cat litter has properties that absorb moisture (body fluids/blood and moisture from the body), slows decomposition, and controls odor.

MOO but if he was holding their bodies post-mortem he maybe used cat litter to slow decomp and extend his “play time” as noted in the new bail doc.

 

[Izzylizzy]

'District Attorney says ‘fair’ to say Heuermann is suspect in seventh murder not included in today’s indictment'​

'Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said it’s “fair” to say Rex Heuermann is a suspect in a seventh murder.
The Manhattan architect was initially charged with the 2009 and 2010 murders of Megan Waterman, Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Lynn Costello and Maureen Brainard-Barnes — known as the “Gilgo Four.” Now, he faces new charges for the 2003 dismemberment death of 20-year-old Jessica Taylor and the 1993 death of 28-year-old Sandra Costilla.
Tierney says Heuermann may be a suspect in the murder of Valerie Mack.
Gilgo Beach Task Force investigators completed a second search of Heuermann’s home in Massapequa Park and a search of an area of Manorville where the partial remains of both Taylor and Mack were found more than two decades ago.
However, Mack’s murder was not included in Thursday’s indictment.'

Katie Hawkinson6 June 2024 17:11

Gilgo Beach killer suspect hit with new charges, including dismemberment: Live

The suspected serial killer has already pleaded not guilty to the murders of the Gilgo Four

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Ruminations]

Oh man...
I've got to walk away from this today for awhile.

I told myself the same thing.

I switched devices. That was how far away I got.

MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

By witness, do they imply that the witness saw the murder and/or dumping of the body.

"A witness was interviewed in 2003 after Taylor's remains were found, who said at 10:30 p.m. on July 25, she saw a dark-colored Chevrolet pickup track backed-in to the same wooded area where Taylor's body was found, prosecutors said."

Accused Gilgo Killer Had Chilling 'Blueprint' To Plan Murders: DA

"His intent was to hunt them down. Bring them under his control — and kill them." Rex Heuermann now stands charged in 6 of the Gilgo deaths.

patch.com

 

[Megnut]

Thanks - that is worth the re-read! Some snippets:

"During one rehearsal, Heuermann - without telling anyone - added additional weights to the bottom of the pulley system that raised and lowered the stage curtains, the classmate recalled.

When she pulled on a lever to drop the curtains while holding onto a rope connected to the system, her 95-pound body suddenly went soaring toward the auditorium ceiling.....

[T]he former classmate said she thought the hulking, 6-foot-4 teen was 'marking his domain' by making it hard for other students to handle the curtains under the additional weight."

link in quote post.

Who can fathom the mind of a sadistic serial killer like RH? She thought he added the weights so only he could pull the curtains when it's far more likely, knowing what we know now, it was no accident and he was probably setting up his first (attempted) murder.

Dark triad.

I am always stunned by the admissions of killers when they reveal, "I wanted to know how it would feel...." the torture of pets... to the murder of people.... like it's all an experiment to see how it would feel to them, not a consideration for how it'll feel to the victim.

IMO RH has taken this to new heights. Depths. If captivity was part of his M.O., he was looking to cause maximum pain... evolving, devolving into a sicker and sicker beast.

Horrendous.

JMO

 

[Deleted member 117884]

deleting as I think I understood a post incorrectly (not for the first or last time)

 

[Diddian]

I don't understand the thing with the cat litter?

Since listed with “bags,” all I could think of was that it might be used to soak up liquids (such as blood) to ease scooping up for disposal.

ETA: maybe the wood chips or sawdust found on or with other victims was for the same purpose?

 

[Just K]

Did he coldc0ck his victims, bring them to his empty home, hold them hostage while torturing them, then murder and dispose of them right before his family's return?

What HELL happened in that home?????

Jmo

I don’t know of the rest of us, here but I’m feeling overwhelmed and less safe knowing that monsters like this walk right beside us. This new information makes it all so real. I always suspected this was the work of one man, at times I thought he might have shared his activities with other sick people but now I’m wondering if didn’t find other perverts, follow their activities, join their online chat rooms maybe even going to places they spoke of. I also think he didn’t stalk only targets but potential patsies.

 

[windrower]

Vess Mitev trashed Ray big time after Ray came out with claims that Asa was not at a hotel vacationing when she supposedly was there.

Lawyer for Gilgo 'serial killer' Rex Heuermann's children ...​

The US Sun
https://www.the-sun.com › News › US News




Feb 6, 2024 — Vess Mitev told The U.S. Sun the fantastical allegations made by attorney John Ray during a symposium on the Long Island Serial Killer last ...

Oh dear this is so tragic !
Those poor women
Six (6) now......
RH would have been 29/30yo - fits right in with when Serial Killers start......

Who is witness 3 ? if, indeed this is correct ?

Okay. Hair of RH’s live-in girlfriend found on SC.

Hair of AE and daughter found on other victims.

Explainable, sure. (My family has several long-haired women, I know how it gets places.)

But I hope every possibility is thoroughly investigated before all is said and done.

 

[Izzylizzy]

John Ray lets loose on Rex and new indictments.
Stockholm Syndrome.torture, and wall paneling removed during the recent search.
He alludes to other people who lived in the Heuermann house,he had stated last year that for a time Craig Heuermann and wife lived there but I don't remember the timeline.
Also alludes to Asa needs to be investigated fully.
Lots more.

video

'Blueprint' of murders helps lead to Heuermann's charges in deaths of 2 more women: prosecutors

Disturbing new details have emerged in the Gilgo Beach serial killings as Rex Heuermann, 60, was charged in two additional women.

abc7chicago.com

 

[x_files]

I highly doubt a media organisation would pull out of having exclusive access to the family when the case is just getting bigger. If anything they'll be high fiving each other for getting in early, when they could offer a lower amount and be accepted.

If it bleeds, it leads. The media isn't a charity, death and disaster is literally their stock-in-trade.

MOO

It disturbs me that RH's family can profit from the deaths of these young women.

 

[Lore Listener]

Cat litter used to absorb fluids so they can be cleaned up more easily. It’s actually commonly used in classrooms for this purpose. Like if kids vomit. Although certain (nefarious) sources recently politically weaponized this to claim that “kids identifying as furries” were being indulged with litter boxes in classrooms. It has always been for soaking up fluids.

I don't understand the thing with the cat litter?

 

[Izzylizzy]

Color me surprised.
Not.

"Heuermann’s lawyer and the lawyers separately representing his wife and two adult children declined to comment."

Man charged in Gilgo Beach serial killings kept document used to ‘blueprint’ crimes, prosecutors say

RIVERHEAD, N.Y. (AP) — The New York architect previously accused of killing four women and leaving their corpses scattered along a coastal highway was charged Thursday in the deaths of two more after

www.columbian.com

 

[Ruminations]

Jessica Taylor disappeared on 21 July 2003. Rex H bought a new Chevy Avalanche pick up truck on 22 July 2003. A witness saw that truck backed into a road near where her body was found on 25 July 2003.

So, did LE have a description of the Chevy Avalanche in 2003?

Rex had it all planned out. She was the first victim transported in the Chevy Avalanche, his vehicle of choice for picking up, transporting and dumping victims.

https://www.scribd.com/document/739871993/Rex-Heuermann-Superseding-Bail-Application-from-June-6-2024#fullscreen&from_embed

An alarming detail is the gap in time from Jessica's disappearance-last phone calls and the vehicle being spotted.

The recent indictment text suggests what filled the time gap.

One thing Rex reminded himself to do was have is story ready. His story to whom?

MOO

 

[Teche]

What the hell is Michael Brown, RH's lawyer , gonna do now?

Quit. Lol.

 

[Teche]

Color me surprised.
Not.

"Heuermann’s lawyer and the lawyers separately representing his wife and two adult children declined to comment."

Man charged in Gilgo Beach serial killings kept document used to ‘blueprint’ crimes, prosecutors say

RIVERHEAD, N.Y. (AP) — The New York architect previously accused of killing four women and leaving their corpses scattered along a coastal highway was charged Thursday in the deaths of two more after

www.columbian.com

They're speechless. Lol.

 

[Just K]

Oh man...
I've got to walk away from this today for awhile.

It’s all so horrible and far too real.

 

[Lore Listener]

I don’t know about you guys, but this is even far more horrific than I was expecting out of today’s announcement. I was thinking maybe RH was responsible for all or most of the victims, maybe not. And that he sexually assaulted, strangled, and dumped like a lot of garden variety SKs. This is a whole other level. A literal horror movie come to life. I’m just reeling.