Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 7 murders, July 2023 #15

[CuriousCricket]

The parallels between Mark Twitchell and RH are pretty remarkable. Both documented their plans and Twitchell wrote his as a movie script as he was a film maker. His online document was titled SK as I understood it from CBS's 48 hours just going into the second hour right now. Twitchell is thought to have killed only one man he found on a dating app (I believe "Plenty of Fish"). From Wikipedia: convicted of first-degree murder in April 2011 for the murder of John Brian Altinger - so, many years after RH began. Twitchell was a Dexter fan. This is chilling as I wonder how many out there are documenting their actions.

Mark Twitchell - Wikipedia

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[dotr]

Although RH may have used his large size to intimidate others, he might on occasion adapt a stance to appear shorter, imo, speculation.

 

[Passeridae]

The hyoid bone is 1 cm thick so you couldn’t hang anybody up using that bone alone. So the significance of drilling into it is unclear to me. Unless there are similar looking holes in other bones.

Sorry for going there but putting it into the suspension torture context seems relevant.

I'm not at all an expert, so definitely take this with a grain of salt (and if someone who knows more than I do can weigh in, I'd appreciate it), but I would be kind of surprised if a hyoid bone could be drilled into without shattering. Maybe they're a bit tougher when it's not skeletal remains, but I majored in anthropology and spent a lot of time in the forensic anthro lab as an undergrad, and most of the remains we worked with didn't even have extant hyoid bones anymore because they're so fragile, and when we did find one we had to be so careful to keep it from breaking just from being handled.

Again, not an expert, and the remains I worked with were a few hundred years old or older, plus it's been 20 years, so maybe I'm way off here.

 

[FromGermany1]

Although RH may have used his large size to intimidate others, he might on occasion adapt a stance to appear shorter, imo, speculation.

... or he took, what he meant would be a casual stance? Young, snappy, casual?

 

[snarast]

... or he took, what he meant would be a casual stance? Young, snappy, casual?

Nerdy is often perceived as wimpy and harmless. And he’s pretty good at that.

 

[CuriousCricket]

... or he took, what he meant would be a casual stance? Young, snappy, casual?

Above is a reply to below And I'd agree with both. He seems adaptable. Perhaps trying to blend in and not be noticed, he might slump down a bit to appear more average sized, and the casual stance in a party situation makes perfect sense. He managed to camouflage himself for years, so undoubtedly had learned to "blend in" in many situations.

Although RH may have used his large size to intimidate others, he might on occasion adapt a stance to appear shorter, imo, speculation.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Shannan’s body was exposed to Atlantic coastal damp marsh conditions for 2 Summers, and one freezing Winter.
Her remains, likely just bones after 18 months, were exposed to predation of mammals, rodents, birds, crabs, marsh creatures and insects, any of which could damage bones and/or cause the “drill” hole, including the Larder Beetle which burrows (creates holes) into dry bone to lay eggs. Only bones remain due to location of body & predation, predation is where the body tissue gets consumed, can’t expect no related damage.
Can’t exclude the cyst medical condition.
Pathology test could not conclude presence of absence of drugs.
Broken wing of hyoid not conclusive. Absence of “larynx” normal as it’s not bone.
No one will ever prove, or disprove murder, hypothermia, overdose, accidental drowning from her remains …

 

[Betty P]

I'm not at all an expert, so definitely take this with a grain of salt (and if someone who knows more than I do can weigh in, I'd appreciate it), but I would be kind of surprised if a hyoid bone could be drilled into without shattering. Maybe they're a bit tougher when it's not skeletal remains, but I majored in anthropology and spent a lot of time in the forensic anthro lab as an undergrad, and most of the remains we worked with didn't even have extant hyoid bones anymore because they're so fragile, and when we did find one we had to be so careful to keep it from breaking just from being handled.

Again, not an expert, and the remains I worked with were a few hundred years old or older, plus it's been 20 years, so maybe I'm way off here.

JMO, he may have done this to make himself appear shorter and less intimidating to target victims. He would want them to feel relaxed and trust him when he persuaded them to go with him.

 

[Betty P]

Shannan’s body was exposed to Atlantic coastal damp marsh conditions for 2 Summers, and one freezing Winter.
Her remains, likely just bones after 18 months, were exposed to predation of mammals, rodents, birds, crabs, marsh creatures and insects, any of which could damage bones and/or cause the “drill” hole, including the Larder Beetle which burrows (creates holes) into dry bone to lay eggs. Only bones remain due to location of body & predation, predation is where the body tissue gets consumed, can’t expect no related damage.
Can’t exclude the cyst medical condition.
Pathology test could not conclude presence of absence of drugs.
Broken wing of hyoid not conclusive. Absence of “larynx” normal as it’s not bone.
No one will ever prove, or disprove murder, hypothermia, overdose, accidental drowning from her remains …

JMO, the "drill hole" is a red herring, not intentional. It's a feature possibly misinterpreted.

There were other markings on the "horns" of the hyoid bone that the second ME determined could indicate strangulation or some similar injury.

The original information from LE regarding the first autopsy also had incorrect information. IIRC, they claimed she was found face down and thus drowned when in fact she was lying face up.

Again, this conversation should be taking place in the Shannan Gilbert thread. All of these details have been discussed many times over the years in that thread.

 

[whiterhino]

JMO, he may have done this to make himself appear shorter and less intimidating to target victims. He would want them to feel relaxed and trust him when he persuaded them to go with him.

Agree. There's more than one RH. The RH from the YT job interview video is not the RH in that mugshot. They're costumes imo. JMO.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I found the YT job interview video to be creepy and unnerving. Anyone else?

 

[dotr]

I found the YT job interview video to be creepy and unnerving. Anyone else?

'Jun 10, 2024 #rexheuermann #gilgobeach #banfield
In 2022, Realtor Antoine Amira interviewed Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann, the man who is accused of killing six women. Amira exclusively told NewsNation's Ashleigh Banfield that interviewing Heuermann was "very difficult" and that he "loved talking about himself."

Jun 12, 2024 #rexheuermann #gilgobeach #banfield
In 2022, Realtor Antoine Amira interviewed Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann, the man who is accused of killing six women. During the interview, Heuermann describes his favorite tool as a cabinet maker’s hammer. Behavioral analysts and body language expert Scott Rouse joins NewsNation's "Banfield" to decode Heuermann's body language.

 

[Maat99]

That interview is incredibly creepy. The most interesting aspect to me is that the interviewer obviously didn’t know at the time that he was talking to a serial killer, but even so he picked up on the implications of what the “favorite tool” was being used for, and said “not someone!” followed by an uneasy laugh.

 

[minazoe]

That interview is incredibly creepy. The most interesting aspect to me is that the interviewer obviously didn’t know at the time that he was talking to a serial killer, but even so he picked up on the implications of what the “favorite tool” was being used for, and said “not someone!” followed by an uneasy laugh.

when he says it can be persuasive or something like that..he thinks he is clever the smile he flashes is duper's delight 100 percent. mOO

 

[iamshadow21]

when he says it can be persuasive or something like that..he thinks he is clever the smile he flashes is duper's delight 100 percent. mOO

Well, we know Sandra had blunt force trauma, as did Asian Doe. I have no doubt he was reminiscing.

MOO

 

[Betty P]

I found the YT job interview video to be creepy and unnerving. Anyone else?

Oh, yes. It would have appeared strange even if I didn't know who he was or what he did. It was the false act of being "friendly" and professional. Didn't ring true. There was also the impression he gave at times of trying to assert power and dominance.

 

[LadyL]

I found the YT job interview video to be creepy and unnerving. Anyone else?

yes but I didn't know it was a job interview?

 

[Passeridae]

Well, we know Sandra had blunt force trauma, as did Asian Doe. I have no doubt he was reminiscing.

MOO

Did Sandra, too? I know the bail application said she was strangled and stabbed, but I don't remember blunt force trauma and frankly I just don't want to read it again.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

yes but I didn't know it was a job interview?

I was quoting OP. I think it is an interview about his job. Sorry about the confusion.

 

[iamshadow21]

Did Sandra, too? I know the bail application said she was strangled and stabbed, but I don't remember blunt force trauma and frankly I just don't want to read it again.

It's in MSM that she was beaten and strangled as well as being stabbed.