Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 7 murders, July 2023 #16

[iamshadow21]

Maybe part of the belt found with Gilgo victim? Just a thought

The Gilgo victims were decades later than this deposit. Could be another belt, though. We know he left three, I think, with Maureen's body. Maybe he liked using them for a while.

MOO

 

[iamshadow21]

And it's not very clear if these items were all in one clump or scattered a bit to a bigger area?

The wording suggests they were found together, when they talk about the depth they were buried.

MOO

 

[sunshineray]

The east bathhouse near where these clothes were found is about 6.5-7 miles from the Gilgo Beach 4.

its about 1.2 miles from where Tanya Jackson was found on the parkway.

the yellow scribbled marker is karen Vergata
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So far no DNA has been linked from Tanya Jackson to RH and LE have been treating TJ and toddler as seperate from the other Gilgo victims found. A new serial killer's trophy stash just uncovered at Jones? TJ and toddler's killer? I hope they get as many sniffing dogs they can to check out all of Jones straight thru to Gilgo...if they haven't already. Just very disturbing, this Jones find

 

[sunshineray]

The Gilgo victims were decades later than this deposit. Could be another belt, though. We know he left three, I think, with Maureen's body. Maybe he liked using them for a while.

MOO

I'm also wondering, since all these items were found only two feet down, all together, if they weren't possibly dug up and reburied there from somewhere else more recently.

 

[Inthedetails]

This has the potential to be really important.

I mean, even if it's not able to be linked to RH, there is absolutely no innocuous interpretation I can think of. It's a stash of trophies for someone.

MOO

It really is eerie.

jmopinion

 

[Inthedetails]

I'm also wondering, since all these items were found only two feet down, all together, if they weren't possibly dug up and reburied there from somewhere else more recently.

FWIW:

The East Bathhouse has been closed since 2009, and should reopen next summer after recent renovations.

Exclusive | Gilgo Beach murders probe leads detectives to Jones Beach after disturbing discovery near Rex Heuermann’s former job

Police sources said the items were from the late 1980s and early 1990s. They were buried two feet deep.

nypost.com

 

[sunshineray]

FWIW:

The East Bathhouse has been closed since 2009, and should reopen next summer after recent renovations.

Exclusive | Gilgo Beach murders probe leads detectives to Jones Beach after disturbing discovery near Rex Heuermann’s former job

Police sources said the items were from the late 1980s and early 1990s. They were buried two feet deep.

nypost.com

And all the apparrel things were found by a cleanup crew at Jones Beach in late summer or early fall of 2023...and only two feet down. Were the "hidden" bloody glove and leather strap also found then?

 

[NicMed329]

I wonder if it’s 2 SKs dumping grounds. Perhaps someone that worked at Jones Beach when RH did? Thinking out loud JMO. someone else connected to TJ and the baby? Asian Doe? Shannon Gilbert? Again speculating out loud.

 

[sunshineray]

I wonder if it’s 2 SKs dumping grounds. Perhaps someone that worked at Jones Beach when RH did? Thinking out loud JMO. someone else connected to TJ and the baby? Asian Doe? Shannon Gilbert? Again speculating out loud.

My mind is going everywhere too! Since these things were found almost 3 years ago, a couple months before RH's arrest, LE must have tested and retested them all, right?

 

[Inthedetails]

My mind is going everywhere too! Since these things were found almost 3 years ago, a couple months before RH's arrest, LE must have tested and retested them all, right?

Wonder why the news of the finding is hitting the media now?

jmopinion

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Police sources said the clothing was from the late 1980s and early 1990s. The items were buried two feet deep.

The items included rayon mini-skirts, shorts, pants and shirts, some with their buttons popped off — suggesting the clothing may have been torn off or forced open, sources said.

BBM

The stash may have been created by another Long Island serial killer, Joel Rifkin, who was active between 1989 and 1993.

Source

IMO

 

[DS2021]

Some random thoughts

1. If they estimate on years of the clothing is correct, this would've been after Rex finished volunteering there.

2. They seem to be indicating children's clothing was found too

 

[snarast]

Some random thoughts

1. If they estimate on years of the clothing is correct, this would've been after Rex finished volunteering there.

2. They seem to be indicating children's clothing was found too

This is a case where I cannot fathom what would be accomplished by not showing some items to the public.

 

[minazoe]

I don't think it's so important if these items came AFTER he worked at the beach...let's face it that beach is his stomping ground..just like Gilgo..a place he knows intimately and is comfortable there.
he would know his way around there at night too...he might get off on hiding things there. Also he could have hung out at that beach long after he worked there.

I can't see a reason for then burying a lost and found box of discarded items on the beach..it doesn't make sense..so now I feel a vibe of him maybe actually knowing how to get into those beach buildings or sheds and maybe even taking victims there in the dark of night. Because the house would have still been his mom's back then I think, and off limits for murder.

mOO

 

[Ruminations]

I wanted to see the words straight from the horse's mouth.

"He has said he is not guilty of these charges. The more I review and the more I inspect what the prosecutor has, it leads me to believe he's not the guy," defense attorney Michael Brown said".

Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann back in court for hearing on DNA evidence, request to separate trials

Suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann returned to court for a pre-trial hearing on DNA evidence on Long Island.

www.cbsnews.com

Interesting that the defense does not wish for a change of venue even though it appears that Rex had few friends or admirers there. (He actually lived in Nassau, near its border with Suffolk, but I think my county point still stands.) I guess if you are on trial for serial murder of disrespected victims, Suffolk County is better than surrounding counties for the defense.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

This is a case where I cannot fathom what would be accomplished by not showing some items to the public.

Agree. It makes it seem like LE does not want tips.

This is why the former police commissioner understood that there had to be an alternative (such as John Ray) to the tip line. SC LE continues to behave to this day as if they do not want evidence.

It is sad. But it is separate IMO from the prosecutors' decision to stop adding evidence to the current charges. It makes sense to bring a finite amount of evidence to trial asap, while continuing to investigate for possible other victims separately. I support that because, if convicted, NYS will allow more access Rex's DNA.

That said, Suffolk County still has a lot of work to do to give the appearance of caring about the victims and desiring to bring justice in cases involving marginalized victims.

Imagine being charged for murders in a county and thinking, yeah, my best bet is to be tried right here. That's Suffolk County.

MOO

 

[Betty P]

She looks like such a victim, not having her own voice, eyes closed shut, poor soul. These people are a piece of work.
MOO

Her attorney has been taking care of her for 2 yrs. How is he getting paid? Just curious.

As for the statements of Rex’s attorney, Brown, he’s saying most of the things defense attorneys usually say in these cases. They all say “my client is innocent” and “the defense has no evidence against my client”. The DNA evidence will be allowed so he doesn’t have much left to argue in Rex’s defense. JMO

 

[Betty P]

I wonder if we have celebrated too soon about the DNA being allowed for trial. From listening to Michael J. Brown's explanation of the public health motion that Brown says limits evidence to in-state labs and since Astrea is not in New York it is actually criminal to use it. As I understood him. Are there any attorneys here from New York who can clarify this for us?

JMO, it’s really a stretch for Brown to try that argument. It sounds like the statue he’s quoting doesn’t apply in this situation. Just because the lab isn’t in NY doesn’t mean it’s not up to quality standards. California has strict regulations, too.

 

[Inthedetails]

Interesting that the defense does not wish for a change of venue even though it appears that Rex had few friends or admirers there. (He actually lived in Nassau, near its border with Suffolk, but I think my county point still stands.) I guess if you are on trial for serial murder of disrespected victims, Suffolk County is better than surrounding counties for the defense.

MOO

Suffolk County has a popluation of over 1.5 million. I think they can find a jury. IMO

https://data.census.gov/profile/Suffolk_County,_New_York?g=050XX00US36103

 

[snooptroop88]

I don't think it's so important if these items came AFTER he worked at the beach...let's face it that beach is his stomping ground..just like Gilgo..a place he knows intimately and is comfortable there.
he would know his way around there at night too...he might get off on hiding things there. Also he could have hung out at that beach long after he worked there.

I can't see a reason for then burying a lost and found box of discarded items on the beach..it doesn't make sense..so now I feel a vibe of him maybe actually knowing how to get into those beach buildings or sheds and maybe even taking victims there in the dark of night. Because the house would have still been his mom's back then I think, and off limits for murder.

mOO

If there is substance to this and he has any, any kind of tie to these items, we get more information and more answers. That's huge. Like you said, this is the stomping grounds of his youth. You know what I find especially interesting is the purses. He really seems to enjoy parting women he's murdered from their purses, I think he turns the purses inside-out trying to "get to know" his victims, know their backgrounds after he murders them. SG's purse being found a ways off from where she was found--have always thought of him. Don't want to get too curious yet because it might turn out it's unrelated. (I always think of that strongbox they found out in Manorville and it dropped off the radar completely.) But this is the period 80s-90s where there's something of a vacuum of information in his "timeline." With that said, rayon's a beachy fabric, mini skirts and shorts, light pants, all beachy. But the buttons popped off? Purses? Like significant numbers of women have decided it's a good idea to discard their old purses at the beach? Maybe lost, but I dunno, so staff all got together one day and said let's bury these lost purses in the sand?? I can only picture one "staff member" thinking of such a thing, and not because the purses were lost.

Those items could identify more of his victims and potentially connect to suspected victims. What a calculating savage, he's like an incredibly intelligent Frankenstein's monster with professional accreditation, complaining to known SKs about lack of butter for his bread while LE's unearthing all of this. He's terrifying, jmo. I'm not sure that's tied to him, but jmo alarmingly decent chance.