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YES THE ARE SUPER CREEPY she had to have known. I mean dismembering a body is pretty messy… and he dismembered not 1 but 3 In the House!?!

Still deep inside I feel like she was part of the disposal of these women . I really believe she helped him dispose of them and it gave her some sick and twisted thrill out of it too. That is just me and how I felt the whole way through .. and now with this killing the women in the house thing …. I don’t know…
MOO
Maybe when her "Rex" admitted what he did in her basement it connected a few dots she had refused to connect so it's not really new news to her and since she's lived in the house for years since then nothing has really changed on that front which is why she's still comfortable living there?
She certainly displayed no shock when addressing the media after his guilty pleas or in the new Peacock clip.

I've yet to see any emotional expression from her or even one tear fall from her conveniently blinded eyes throughout these horrific 3ish years since RH's arrest.
imo
 
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...The more I look at her, the more I listen to her, the more she seems fake to me with that little smile and arrogant look of hers, they don't seem to have any different expressions from her husband, I don't know to what extent she has anything to do with this story because for now there is no evidence to prove it but I can't see her acting like a saint in their house...
She seems to me as smart as her husband and also deviant, and I want to feel free to think and say it because this story has remained silent for too long.
My badge says 4 but I've been following this for 10 long years, I have read more pages on this case than in my entire school career.
I would be interested in finding out more about Karen Vergata. There was a witness that come forward with John Ray in a signed affidavit who claimed her and her ex-boyfriend cop met Rex through an advertisement at a swingers club in NYC. They picked up an escort and headed to Rex's Massapequa Park home where the witness said the wife was home and she spoke to her. She then proceed to explain seeing a woman run out of the house naked, around the garage and into the back. That witness said she believed this woman to be Karen. Full story here:


Anyway, my point to all this is that IMO, Asa did not know about the murders, but was aware and turned a blind eye to Rex and his escort and fetish addictions. And was that, in fact, Karen Vergata??
 
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YES THE ARE SUPER CREEPY she had to have known. I mean dismembering a body is pretty messy… and he dismembered not 1 but 3 In the House!?!

Still deep inside I feel like she was part of the disposal of these women . I really believe she helped him dispose of them and it gave her some sick and twisted thrill out of it too. That is just me and how I felt the whole way through .. and now with this killing the women in the house thing …. I don’t know…
MOO
I have to agree with you @madamx
 
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I would be interested in finding out more about Karen Vergata. There was a witness that come forward with John Ray in a signed affidavit who claimed her and her ex-boyfriend cop met Rex through an advertisement at a swingers club in NYC. They picked up an escort and headed to Rex's Massapequa Park home where the witness said the wife was home and she spoke to her. She then proceed to explain seeing a woman run out of the house naked, around the garage and into the back. That witness said she believed this woman to be Karen. Full story here:


Anyway, my point to all this is that IMO, Asa did not know about the murders, but was aware and turned a blind eye to Rex and his escort and fetish addictions. And was that, in fact, Karen Vergata??


yes, so to sit there and say her husband doesn't frequent sex workers and is a normal husband who comes home for dinner every night is a LIE. mOO
 
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Wow. There is no way A didn't know or at least suspect that something awful was going on! Just wretched that she could support him after all this. Dehumanizing the victims to rationalize it to herself.

Rex is a despicable human being, his poor victims.
 
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YES THE ARE SUPER CREEPY she had to have known. I mean dismembering a body is pretty messy… and he dismembered not 1 but 3 In the House!?!

Still deep inside I feel like she was part of the disposal of these women . I really believe she helped him dispose of them and it gave her some sick and twisted thrill out of it too. That is just me and how I felt the whole way through .. and now with this killing the women in the house thing …. I don’t know…
MOO
She wasn't in the state or sometimes even the country when he killed many of them.

MOO
 
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yes, so to sit there and say her husband doesn't frequent sex workers and is a normal husband who comes home for dinner every night is a LIE. mOO
On a "good" night, he probably came home only moderately drunk from his predatory train ride/teen harassment commute.

MOO
 
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She wasn't in the state or sometimes even the country when he killed many of them.

MOO
Yeah. And even then, weird stuff happened like surprise bathroom remodels.

MOO
 
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I would be interested in finding out more about Karen Vergata. There was a witness that come forward with John Ray in a signed affidavit who claimed her and her ex-boyfriend cop met Rex through an advertisement at a swingers club in NYC. They picked up an escort and headed to Rex's Massapequa Park home where the witness said the wife was home and she spoke to her. She then proceed to explain seeing a woman run out of the house naked, around the garage and into the back. That witness said she believed this woman to be Karen. Full story here:


Anyway, my point to all this is that IMO, Asa did not know about the murders, but was aware and turned a blind eye to Rex and his escort and fetish addictions. And was that, in fact, Karen Vergata??
I too am interested in knowing more about Karen Vergata. The story shared by Lorraine was that she and her sick detective boyfriend picked up a vulnerable, hungry, homeless girl to have sex at RH's home, where his devoted wife AE was aware of what was going on. She never forgot what those two looked like. Both RH and AE have very distinct features. Him being a huge Ogre and her with her dyed ginger hair, they haven't changed very much in all these years. Lorraine never forgot that poor girl who she believes is Karen Vergata. That night deeply affected Lorraine and seemed to traumatize her after all these years. She couldn't forget this naked girl running outside to get away. They even were able to identify the cop and used initials for him. Why has he been protected!
MOO
 
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YES THE ARE SUPER CREEPY she had to have known. I mean dismembering a body is pretty messy… and he dismembered not 1 but 3 In the House!?!

Still deep inside I feel like she was part of the disposal of these women . I really believe she helped him dispose of them and it gave her some sick and twisted thrill out of it too. That is just me and how I felt the whole way through .. and now with this killing the women in the house thing …. I don’t know…
MOO
The house is so unkempt and borders on hoarding, It’s impossible to believe that the torture chamber didn’t glow in the dark. Horror house.
 
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Dbm, sorry.
I changed my mind and no longer wish to express my thoughts. This time ;).
 
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Ya think?

"Despite the cloud of suspicion hanging over Ellerup, Tierney insisted that the years-long investigation uncovered zero evidence that she knew anything about her husband’s killing spree.

‘Nothing at all. I think she knew that there were other issues with the defendant, but there's no evidence whatsoever to think that she knew he was murdering people. Absolutely not,’ he said.
However, while Ellerup was in the dark about his double life as a serial killer, Tierney cryptically said that she was likely aware that her husband had 'other issues' or 'other interests.’
 
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Quoting one fragment from the April 20th paywalled NYT article about Heuermann telling his former wife that he had killed eight women:

"Mr. Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, who has since divorced him, tells her lawyer in the Peacock documentary, “The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets,” that as Mr. Heuermann prepared to speak to her about the murders, “he looked very nervous — very, very nervous.”

I realize that her comment may have been self-serving, but if it wasn't, and with him being who he is, why was he nervous? Somehow - and really JMO - I think he married his mother.
 
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Quoting one fragment from the April 20th paywalled NYT article about Heuermann telling his former wife that he had killed eight women:

"Mr. Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, who has since divorced him, tells her lawyer in the Peacock documentary, “The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets,” that as Mr. Heuermann prepared to speak to her about the murders, “he looked very nervous — very, very nervous.”

I realize that her comment may have been self-serving, but if it wasn't, and with him being who he is, why was he nervous? Somehow - and really JMO - I think he married his mother.
BBM

Sigmund Freud's Oedipus complex in action you say? We all unconcsiously marry a facsimile of our opposite sex parent - So Asa has similar charcteristics to his Mom?

He did not want to tarnish his image in his Mom's (Asa's) eyes? Could be. IIRC his Mom lived in the house with he and his first wife. He was referred to as a Momma's boy by former classmate's/aquaintances



Interesting thought

JMO
 
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Clip is from the ABC show Impact streaming on Hulu/Disney+. I haven't watched it yet but it's on my list.


The Prime docuseries premiered today 4/22. I watched 2 out of 4 episodes. Nothing new in it.

And the conclusion of the Peacock docuseries tomorrow 4/23.
 
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Yet according to AE's lawyer Macedonio the marriage had been broken for quite a while, had issues that he wasn't privy to discuss with Cuomo and in the past few years a divorce was discussed.
He said this in defense of AE to Chris Cuomo so what caused AE wanting to divorce him because in front of the cameras everything AE claimed about her then husband and then ex-husband was in glowing terms.
What Macedonio said spoke volumes of truth and all the praise AE bestowed upon RH was a RUSE endorsed by both Macedonio and Brown.

btw: there is no evidence or record of AE's first husband having been abusive and I find what came/comes out of her mouth beyond questionable.
imo

@ 3:00


I don’t trust her. If she wanted a divorce, she went in the opposite direction when he was arrested. It makes me wonder if she faked it to draw the attention away from her having to do anything with it. Like she was totally clueless because she loved him so much. ‘How could I love him so much if he was involved in these crimes’? She wanted to play innocent.

No other way around that they are a strange family. The neighbours think they are strange and there is no other home like theirs on the street. It’s a filthy house inside and out. That’s not normal.

The doc seems self serving in every sense. She likes the attention and the money imo.
 
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I don’t trust her. If she wanted a divorce, she went in the opposite direction when he was arrested. It makes me wonder if she faked it to draw the attention away from her having to do anything with it. Like she was totally clueless because she loved him so much. ‘How could I love him so much if he was involved in these crimes’? She wanted to play innocent.

No other way around that they are a strange family. The neighbours think they are strange and there is no other home like theirs on the street. It’s a filthy house inside and out. That’s not normal.

The doc seems self serving in every sense. She likes the attention and the money imo.
If she decided to get a divorce, she is smart. If RH decided, she should file for divorce, she had to know something and at least had to understand, RH couldn't be innocent. MOO
 
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Long Island serial killer Rex A. Heuermann maintained a four-day killing ritual, building trust with his victims before ending their lives in a basement "kill room" and dumping their remains near Gilgo Beach, a therapist reveals in a grisly new documentary episode streaming Thursday.

By the time Heuermann killed what he says was his eighth and final victim, the practice became so routine his stopwatch informed him it took just 37 seconds to dispose of the remains of Amber Lynn Costello along the north side of Ocean Parkway in September 2010, Sayville therapist Alison Winter discloses in the final installment of Peacock’s "Gilgo Beach Serial Killer: House of Secrets."

"He would hit the timer, dump the body, get back in the truck and hit the timer again," said Winter, who participated in the series after Heuermann and his family waived their rights to patient privacy. "Clearly, he enjoyed killing and it became a sickness for him. It became an outlet. It became an obsession."

 

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