• #17,701
She was a victim of LE because they insisted on upending her house while collecting evidence against her serial killer husband. How dare they!
Ahh, yes, "how dare they"
Thanks for the reminder.

snip

'Gilgo Beach Suspect Rex Heuermann's Family Plans To Sue Law Enforcement Over Wrecked House​

PHOTOS HERE: The family released never-before-seen photos of what the home they shared with him looks like now.'​


 
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well on the side of possible reason, maybe she is trying to help, maybe if she sees him, maybe if he relies on her for friendship and reassurance regarding his parents home and what he perceives as his legacy..he will continue confessing to her..maybe she can influence him.

that's a best case for this inexplicable relationship. mOO
AE can use Keri Rawson's playbook though it didn't work getting her father D.R. aka the BTK killer to confess to other murders.

Bottom line is AE just can't leave the guy alone.
I can only imagine what she let him get away with when they were married because finding out he's not only a serial killer but he killed in her home hasn't deterred her one bit from remaining by his side.
imo
imo
 
  • #17,703
The more I see of her, the more I see an arrogant halfwit. And someone who lacks empathy and the ability to adapt their behaviour to the seriousness of the occasion.

I see someone who at the very least possibly knew her husband was frequenting sex workers and was ok with that if it meant she didn’t have to have sex with him.

At the worst, I think it’s possible she suspected it was him but convinced herself the police would have picked him up by now if it were true.

Even if she were totally oblivious, doing the documentary, continuing to live in the house, moving into the basement even, on top of continuing to visit him in jail and take calls from him are all IMO grossly inappropriate, offensive, creepy and suspicious.
thinking the same....conjugal visits...visits of a lesser nature.....Asa "My Heart Will Go On" Ellerup..........will she and the daughter be at sentencing ???
 
  • #17,704
Ahh, yes, "how dare they"
Thanks for the reminder.

snip

'Gilgo Beach Suspect Rex Heuermann's Family Plans To Sue Law Enforcement Over Wrecked House​

PHOTOS HERE: The family released never-before-seen photos of what the home they shared with him looks like now.'​


hahahahaha.........really ???? how does one trash an already trashed home ?? Did they clear off a counter top ??
 
  • #17,705
well on the side of possible reason, maybe she is trying to help, maybe if she sees him, maybe if he relies on her for friendship and reassurance regarding his parents home and what he perceives as his legacy..he will continue confessing to her..maybe she can influence him.

that's a best case for this inexplicable relationship. mOO
I give you credit (not being sarcastic truly) for seeking a note of compassion and crediting AE's attempted loving behavior.......Just IMO I think she's too busy trying to assuage her own guilt and actions......she's in the house where it happened and Lord knows what and who she and RH encountered at the swingers club.....not enough holy water
 
  • #17,706
For RH to claim he stopped killing in September 2010 because committing the atrocious acts murder, body mutilations and hiding of human remains no longer gives him gratification, then it is shuddering to think what has in the 13 years before he arrest in 2023?

I do think he is lying but I do wonder if it is possible there are other types crimes or cold cases he could be involved in which the MO might be the same or similar, in that they may involve missing persons, abduction, strangulation, body mutilation but the victimology may be different? For example, perhaps instead of targeting women or sex workers the victims were whole families, couples, children, adolescents, hitchhikers or travelers. In contrast, is it possible that he could be responsible for cold cases or assaults in which the victimology stayed the same but the level of violence and disturbing behavior exhibited by the perp were even further escalated or the MO somewhat changed. For example, could there be cases in which changed his MO primarily to prolong his victims suffering by subjecting them to torture and captivity for days or weeks at time before they were murdered or in which he began share, details, recordings or video on online forums or illegal networks?

I just have a hard time believing RH stopped killing because it didn’t gratify him anymore when he seemed to get a disgusting thrill every time he called Amanda Barthelemy just so that he could taunt, insult and verbally abuse both her and her beloved sister Melissa.


Just my own thoughts or questions as I learn and read more from MSM and forum
 
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Live Josh
I didn't know there was a group therapy thing with RH and family that is in the documentary.
So he's legally allowed to appear in a project that makes money even if he's not paid?

 
  • #17,708
Live Josh
I didn't know there was a group therapy thing with RH and family that is in the documentary.
So he's legally allowed to appear in a project that makes money even if he's not paid?

OMG.
RH told them that one of the victim's lives ended in the bed he shared with Asa.
Live so no timestamp but about 3-4 mins into the video.
 
  • #17,709
They did recreations including body dummies.
Josh/guest advises victim's families not to watch it.
From what I've already heard about this documentary I say everyone involved with it lacks human decency and are cruel beyond words knowingly making this documentary as sensational as possible at the expense of 8 innocent women who were brutally murdered and their loved ones.
They're all despicable excuses for humans.
imo



imo
 
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For RH to claim he stopped killing in September 2010 because committing the atrocious acts murder, body mutilations and hiding of human remains no longer gives him gratification, then it is shuddering to think what has in the 13 years before he arrest in 2023?

I do think he is lying but I do wonder if it is possible there are other types crimes or cold cases he could be involved in which the MO might be the same or similar, in that they may involve missing persons, abduction, strangulation, body mutilation but the victimology may be different? For example, perhaps instead of targeting women or sex workers the victims were whole families, couples, children, adolescents, hitchhikers or travelers. In contrast, is it possible that he could be responsible for cold cases or assaults in which the victimology stayed the same but the level of violence and disturbing behavior exhibited by the perp were even further escalated or the MO somewhat changed. For example, could there be cases in which changed his MO primarily to prolong his victims suffering by subjecting them to torture and captivity for days or weeks at time before they were murdered or in which he began share, details, recordings or video on online forums or illegal networks?

I just have a hard time believing RH stopped killing because it didn’t gratify him anymore when he seemed to get a disgusting thrill every time he called Amanda Barthelemy just so that he could taunt, insult and verbally abuse both her and her beloved sister Melissa.


Just my own thoughts or questions as I learn and read more from MSM and forum

and so funny and strangely coincidental that Shannan Gilbert's Mother and Sister also received taunting phone calls from Peter Hackett...but what if it really wasn't Peter Hackett calling ? it's all so strange the way it all dovetails and finds a way to fit together. okay rabbit hole..surely they were able to verify those calls...does anyone remember..? The calls were very similar in my opinion.

Rex had like 100 burner phones or something crazy.

so Rex admitted to KV probably because she might link to his home or to Asa..she could come back to haunt him...something about the case worried him enough to just admit to it and put an end to them finding out something more, possibly about Asa.

I have no idea why no one thinks Rex killed Shannan when stomping around those marshes is literally his thing...with big old duck boots on and his guns and big ole truck. I don't believe a thing he says and I don't think he should be in the clear on Shannan.

mOO
 
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  • #17,712

Why is this family still being given a platform to belittle and ridicule victims
Can't understand it either. This is so phony and orchestrated. Why did LE allow it? Completely disgusting. The family should NOT be allowed to profit from this. And, FYI, I don't personally believe we have anywhere near the truth on this. AE's revelation of sleeping in that basement - sickening literally. I think the surface has only been scratched. IMO, my feeling is this is so much darker and deeper than has been revealed - or will ever be revealed.
 
  • #17,713
SMH.
 
  • #17,714
Yeah, there are no words. A saying that she sleeps in his kill room in the new interview is so deeply disturbing and grotesque?!
 
  • #17,715
Yeah, there are no words. A saying that she sleeps in his kill room in the new interview is so deeply disturbing and grotesque?!
It's like she is sending him a sick message so she can give him kinks

Even if she did not know at the time she is certainly letting him and the public know she is comfortable with what he did

No normal thinking person would move into and sleep in a kill room unless it was motivated by fetishism jmo

She has choices : it is not a one bedroomhome , she has money ; she could move or demolish and rebuild .

Both her and rex have no empathy or remorse for the victims or their families

this goes much deeper than him being a serial killer this was a ring of people imo and whether AE participated or just got a kick from being a bystander idk

Often in killer couples one will be the dominant and the other a submissive and I feel this is the dynamic here . Her role is not to have active participation but to satisfy his need to relive his experience through Role play of a helpless victim . And she is giving a stellar performance doing just that in the peacock series.

This is porn to both of them jmo
 
  • #17,716
OMG.
RH told them that one of the victim's lives ended in the bed he shared with Asa.
Live so no timestamp but about 3-4 mins into the video.
I can like your post with :oops::eek:. But I am not surprised at all, so I like your post with 👍. 😌
 
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Honestly, I'm happy that the details are coming out, it's part of the facts.
If someone feels offended by this, they can simply not watch it.
Instead, I thank Joshua Zeman and I have respect for his work, which I've followed for years, not just in this case,
and I think we should show him respect in general.
There are other people who don't deserve it...
 
  • #17,719
and so funny and strangely coincidental that Shannan Gilbert's Mother and Sister also received taunting phone calls from Peter Hackett...but what if it really wasn't Peter Hackett calling ? it's all so strange the way it all dovetails and finds a way to fit together. okay rabbit hole..surely they were able to verify those calls...does anyone remember..? The calls were very similar in my opinion.

Rex had like 100 burner phones or something crazy.

so Rex admitted to KV probably because she might link to his home or to Asa..she could come back to haunt him...something about the case worried him enough to just admit to it and put an end to them finding out something more, possibly about Asa.

I have no idea why no one thinks Rex killed Shannan when stomping around those marshes is literally his thing...with big old duck boots on and his guns and big ole truck. I don't believe a thing he says and I don't think he should be in the clear on Shannan.

mOO
KV was last heard from on February 14,1996.
RH & AE were married April 13th,1996
VH was born Oct 1996

Did RH tell LE when he murdered KV?
Not that he's to be believed but what you said about AE and KV does seem possible unless there's documentation that AE was out of the state/country on the Feb 14,1996 timeline and I don't recall seeing that but could have missed it.

I've posted a few times questioning if AE was afraid that RH will talk which is why she immediately became his number one ally?

At this point it makes no sense for RH to throw AE under the bus if he does have info on her knowing anything because she's all in being the one person he can rely on for companionship and $$$ while telling the world she still loves him and is now wanting to get to know the side of him that tortured,dismembered and murdered 8 innocent women.
I have to look for what I read yesterday about RH saying something about his mental state and murdering on the 1996 timeline.
Is this it, just 3 murders LE has placed AE as being away when he confessed to 8 murders?
imo

Key LISK Murder and Investigation Timeline
  • Nov. 20, 1993: Body of Sandra Costilla found in North Sea, NY.
  • Feb. 14, 1996: Karen Vergata last seen; partial remains found later on Fire Island.
  • June 28, 1997: Partial remains of "Peaches" (later identified as Tanya Jackson) found in West Hempstead.
  • Sept. 2000: Remains of Valerie Mack discovered in Manorville.
  • July 26, 2003: Partial remains of Jessica Taylor discovered in Manorville.
  • July 9, 2007: Maureen Brainard-Barnes disappears after traveling to NYC.
  • July 2009: Melissa Barthelemy disappears.
  • Sept. 2010: Megan Waterman disappears.
  • Early June 2010: Amber Lynn Costello disappears.
  • Dec. 11, 2010: During the search for Shannan Gilbert, police discover the remains of Melissa Barthelemy, which launches the serial killer investigation.
  • Dec. 13, 2010: Remains of Brainard-Barnes, Waterman, and Costello are found nearby.
  • April 2011: Additional remains of Taylor, Mack, and other individuals (including an unidentified toddler) are discovered along Ocean Parkway.
  • https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/15/us/gilgo-beach-murder-case-timeline#:~:text=The investigation began in earnest,as far back as 1993.
 
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