Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, pleads Guilty to 7 murders and confesses to 1 other

[IzzyBlanche]

I'm sure this has been discussed already but a couple of things:

1. Why on earth would Asa now have to sleep in the basement? Why didn't she just go back to sleeping wherever she was sleeping before?

2. I have a vague memory of reports early on that Asa had cancer and things looked oh so dire because her health insurance was through Rex and now it would most certainly not be paid for and she would not be able to continue her treatment. Anyone else remember that?

Looking at her today, I dont think that came to pass. Have there been any updates about her cancer? Odd if not, JMO.

 

[snarast]

I'm sure this has been discussed already but a couple of things:

1. Why on earth would Asa now have to sleep in the basement? Why didn't she just go back to sleeping wherever she was sleeping before?

2. I have a vague memory of reports early on that Asa had cancer and things looked oh so dire because her health insurance was through Rex and now it would most certainly not be paid for and she would not be able to continue her treatment. Anyone else remember that?

Looking at her today, I dont think that came to pass. Have there been any updates about her cancer? Odd if not, JMO.

Unfortunately, reoccurrence of cancer is very common. But it might take a while.

She was sleeping there to atone for the suffering and pain the victims went through. That’s just a guess of course.

IMHOO

 

[su5ie]

Unfortunately, reoccurrence of cancer is very common. But it might take a while.

She was sleeping there to atone for the suffering and pain the victims went through. That’s just a guess of course.

IMHOO

If she wanted to atone she could have set up a memorial in the victims memory instead she chose to lay down inside the sacrificial altar of her husbands slaying

 

[FromGermany1]

If she wanted to atone she could have set up a memorial in the victims memory instead she chose to lay down inside the sacrificial altar of her husbands slaying

Mr. Heuermann wouldn't understand that, and that's why she wouldn't do it, MOO. That she is sleeping in his hell room, I think, he enjoys.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Mr. Heuermann wouldn't understand that, and that's why she wouldn't do it, MOO. That she is sleeping in his hell room, I think, he enjoys.

My thoughts exactly. I suspect it is to titillate him.

 

[snarast]

If she wanted to atone she could have set up a memorial in the victims memory instead she chose to lay down inside the sacrificial altar of her husbands slaying

Yes there’s not much one can argue against that. It does seem…..severely disturbed and definitely not palatable.

I’m hoping she’ll do something more dignified. I’m concerned she goes too much with the director’s ideas. That are geared toward increasing sales, obviously…

I find this just so sad all around.

IMHOO

 

[snarast]

Mr. Heuermann wouldn't understand that, and that's why she wouldn't do it, MOO. That she is sleeping in his hell room, I think, he enjoys.

Excellent point. Nauseating.

 

[minazoe]

well I was watching episode 4 , and I noticed Asa starts doing this disassociated weird smiling when Rex calls and at other moments. it's a duper's delight kind of uncontrollable showing of pleasure in her eyes and her facial expression.

she has quite the ego...I'm not sure if it's because this is all for show and she has known all along, or if she's just getting off on having a famous husband. I hate hearing his voice and had to turn it off...because I was getting pissed off..why should he be allowed family therapy and phone calls and attention for television shows?

I couldn't finish but will try again..the whole thing gives me nightmares. He is disgusting! trying to sound fatherly and therapeutic.

BARF , I hope they get him in NC and give him the gas chamber!

mOO

 

[minazoe]

I want to say on a positive note, the house was really cleaned up..and I can sort of understand her attachment to her home as it is probably the only real security she ever had as an unwanted , discarded child. She was attractive and cute as a young woman...
Even Rex when he was young was giant but not as he appears now. I can see how she burrowed in like a mouse and was content with the scraps.

I think she's somewhat intelligent and could be a bit of a bad. like bad...someone who maybe could be willing to look the other way or lie to keep the status quo...of course it's also easy to apply negative qualities to Asa because she's hard to fathom.

I'll have to watch the rest but I just can't take the Rex phone calls...UGH. mOO

 

[Luna20]

So she meets with her husband and calls him Mr Heuermann. LOL.
And he says, "Oh, are we formal now, Mrs Ellerup?!!!!
I don't even know what to make of that.
Was it in 2025 when he confessed to his wife? I'd like to know when the daughter made her statement that she believes he “most likely” committed the killings. Did she say this after he confessed?
MOO

Again, strange. It’s almost like they were doing intimate role play.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Again, strange. It’s almost like they were doing intimate role play.

Very strange and it seems so fake. I wonder just how much the state actually has right. They've gotten him put away for life, but despite Tierney's reassurances, I am beginning to think there's so much more and so much LE has wrong. Perhaps Rex's courtroom smirk was right on target.

 

[su5ie]

Again, strange. It’s almost like they were doing intimate role play.

This is the feeling I get from this . Good evening Mr Grey , why hello Miss Steele

 

[hot cawfeee]

Again, strange. It’s almost like they were doing intimate role play.

I got a chill reading that......it is quite a possible scenario

 

[waldojabba]

I got a chill reading that......it is quite a possible scenario

IMO
More than likely its language and strategy that was suggested by the shrink.
It's called emotional distancing.

If you watch the Peacock episode Asa talks about how she put up a "wall'.
It's a metaphorical wall.
You put up a wall in your mind :
Her feelings for her husband Rex on one side of the wall/ and then on the other side of the wall the "Mr Heuerman" side, she can be objective listening to the killer without that noise of being the wife. Kind of like compartmentalizing.

It's a difficult concept obviouisly to explain and for Asa and it would be for a lot of people frankly. She's really not psychologically aware enough or intellectual enough at this point to understand the exercise.

In the series she calls him Mr Heuerman and then Rex says in his kind of soft twinkly voice he uses with her "Oh are we formal now" so Rex charms her, not allowing her to view him as anything but the loving Rex who did bad things but did not know why -he goes for the sympathy play. He controls her with a velvet glove. When he turns on the charm it's like a light goes off inside her. It's like a trauma bond.

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It was interesting for me to see in the episode what she looked like back in the day -hopeful and pretty - compared to now -I see her like a dog that was beaten/neglected too many times that is now thankful for the scraps - very starved for attention and affection. Just what I see

I'm not sure she will ever be able to untangle herself from that toxic relationship unless she totally removes herself from any interaction with him and I don't see that happening.

The daughter needs to run as far from the mother as possible and change her name / the son would be better off in a group home.

Just my 2 cents

 

[Moonstrawbs]

I just finished episode 4 and wow. I might be in the minority here, but I couldn’t shake the feeling that the whole therapy angle was actually enabling him to further control Asa and the family, that’s just the impression it left on me. That said, Asa sleeping in what was essentially the kill room nearly knocked me out with shock and utter disgust. It made me wonder if she had more of an inkling about what he was truly like. This sleeping situation and her reasoning for it made me feel like, as someone else suggested, is intended to excite him.

Either way, it felt incredibly disturbing and deeply disrespectful to the victims. Jmo.

 

[minazoe]

okay I pushed through the rest of Ep 4.

all I can say is Asa wants to know Rex..the evil side of him. these are the words out of her own mouth. I was fascinated by her knowledge of Rex' s life and upbringing. I see an intelligent and highly observant person. I find her to be covertly narcissistic in a way as she has always enjoyed a societal lift from her husband's education and accomplishments...and could feel so much better about herself...she almost mirrors Rex's putting on of aires and haughty dismissals...like she props him up and mirrors him.

Victoria will not leave her mother. mOO

 

[snarast]

I just finished episode 4 and wow. I might be in the minority here, but I couldn’t shake the feeling that the whole therapy angle was actually enabling him to further control Asa and the family, that’s just the impression it left on me. That said, Asa sleeping in what was essentially the kill room nearly knocked me out with shock and utter disgust. It made me wonder if she had more of an inkling about what he was truly like. This sleeping situation and her reasoning for it made me feel like, as someone else suggested, is intended to excite him.

Either way, it felt incredibly disturbing and deeply disrespectful to the victims. Jmo.

I think many of us are pretty concerned about this...I'm hoping against hope Åsa is doing some manipulation activity to "stimulate" RH, possibly to thaw him up. We wouldn't want him to just sit there "staring at the FBI visitor for half an hour" (paraphrasing the paraphrases from the Peacock doc which I have seen very few seconds of).

I unfortunately think that Karen was similar to Åsa in that she had a child with special needs and, in my opinion Valerie Mack looks a lot like Åsa. Might not Åsa think that RH did to them what "should" have been done to her. And might she not think that after she gained weight and became visibly bitter (she is actually quite cute IMO) it was such a turn-off that she "drove" RH toward sex workers?

We also don't know how much sadism was in Åsa's and RH's sexual life together. Maybe he took her to the brink in breath play and just "needed more".

yuck

 

[PickleChris]

Does anyone think he was given "assignments" or " a mission" before the vacations? Expected to explain in full detail what happened upon return.

 

[minazoe]

Does anyone think he was given "assignments" or " a mission" before the vacations? Expected to explain in full detail what happened upon return.

something about them feels "coded". mOO

 

[minazoe]

and of course, when he tells Asa he can tell, by her voice... I don't like any of this...mOO