GK's convoluted theory... what's yours? Please share!

[Compassionate Reader]

That you could make something cohesive out of the H family's statements is commendable! Personally, I think NH wanted the reward and placed DAT and DE on the Service Road at the time she did in order to get it. I also don't believe for one minute that she saw DAT and DE on the Service Road. She may have seen them walking around the West Memphis/Marion area as they often did, but she did not see Jason. Even she is adamant on that! For that reason, I don't believe her testimony - at all! I agree that it is sad, indeed, that the wmpd "bought into" her ramblings. However, since it supported their Satanic theory, they put her on the stand.

 

[Compassionate Reader]

The important time frame, for me, is when the boys were attacked initially. IMO, they succumbed to injuries or animal predation (in the case of CB) several hours after the initial attack. I don't think that they suffered after the initial attack, however. I believe that they were unconscious from the time of the initial attack until their death. That is despicable because, when JMB initially contacted the wmpd, I believe that the boys might have been saved, if they could have been rescued. IIRC, JMB first asked for police help around 6:30 or 7:00 pm, but the police put him off and told him, basically, to wait until dark. That was the death knell for the boys. FFS, they might have been found even before the attack had the police acted promptly and efficiently. Let me see if I can find the statement from JMB about when he first contacted the police.

ETA: I was wrong. JMB first reported Christopher missing around 7:30 and the cop told him to wait until 8:00 to report it officially. Still bad, but not as bad as I originally said.

"AND ABOUT 7:30, WE LOOKED FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, AND I HAD COME UP HERE TO BROADWAY AND KIND OF SITTING BY THE DOLLAR GENERAL, WELL, YEAH, IT WAS KIND OF BY THE DOLLAR GENERAL STORE, THERE WAS A BLACK POLICE OFFICER SITTING THERE IN HIS CAR, AND I PULLED UP BESIDE HIM, AND I ROLLED MY WINDOW DOWN. I SAID, SIR. WE CAN'T FIND MY SON. HE'S MISSING. HE SAID, WELL HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN LOOKING FOR HIM. I SAID ABOUT AN HOUR OR SO, AND HE LOOKED AT HIS WATCH. HE SAID, WELL WHY DON'T YOU GIVE IT 'TIL AROUND 8 O'CLOCK. AND HE SAID, IF YOU DON'T FIND HIM, CALL THE POLICE STATION AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT HE WAS WEARING AND ALL. AND THEY'LL SEND AN OFFICER BY AND YOU CAN GIVE THEM A REPORT AND THEN THEY'LL PUT OUT OVER THE MIC WHAT HE'S WEARING AND A PATROLMAN RIDING AROUND WILL MAYBE SEE HIM."

http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jmb1.html

 

[GoblinKeeper]

Regarding TOD, I believe that the boys might have been attacked around 7PM, rendered unconcious, but not acutally died until sometime during the night (I think even Peretti concluded that the TOD was around 1AM). Also, I don't believe the ditch where the bodies were found was the crime scene. So what I tend to look at, regarding a possible perp, is someone who had the opportunity to attack the boys around 7PM and then move the bodies at some point during the night/early hours of the 6th. This leads me to think that whoever it was either participating in the search or had some knowledge of it.

Thank you for your kind words about my research, and very interesting to get to know some of your academic background! To keep it short, my thesis is in the field of modern political history and it's basically based around cold war foreign policy and a female diplomat/ambassador. I could further elaborate in a PM, if you'd like.

Right, I'm gonna buckle down and read your posts regarding JKM, and get back to you with some feedback asap.

Edited to add:

Okay, so once again you are so very on point GK! I'll just update my last post, as I really don't have anything of significance to add.

Your posts make such a difference, and it is very refreshing to read something so well put together compared to the bickering that has become rather common lately. I think what you're doing here is really valuable. You keep writing on that wall in black magic marker.

JKM is bothersome to say the least. So many things point to his involvement, and his alibi is rubbish, but I still can't figure out where to fit him in! Because he wasn't familiar with the boys at all, was he? I'm not saying it's a criteria to be considered a possible perp, I'm just a firm believer in starting at the "inner circle" and working your way out. Although, he was an experienced sexual predator... Ugh, he makes my skin crawl. A very, very disturbed and frightening individual.

I have largely dismissed BH and CM. I don't think they had anything to do with it. However, it makes another perfect example of how incompetent the WMPD were and how they had developed tunnel vision. Same as Bojangles really. Furthermore, BH/CM shines a light on the bias of judge DB.

Graznik, you have a very good point there. TOD has been variously supposed to have been at any time from 5/5/93 @ 6:45 pm to 5/6/93 @ 5:00 am. Like you, I lean more toward the boys having been abducted from the Robin Hood Hills area close to 7:00 pm. Why? Because everyone who was searching for them did so throughout the evening hours and did not find them, even though they should have been visible if there were three teenage boys beating and torturing them. This would also tend to render the confession given by JM as invalid. So now we must look to who would have had means, motive, opportunity, and the ability to cover up what was going on. Just off the top of my head, a member of WMPD or two come to mind, as well as a step-father, and a pedophile. This would fit in nicely with how a cover of silence has been maintained, why someone wasn’t ever properly investigated, how the boys and bikes could have been moved (three of four would have known the status of the search at any time). Bojangles I have come to believe was a red herring here. (There were several reports of gunfire throughout the night, and for him to have been a bit player in this horrendous event, it might have been by being shot by someone who conveniently lost a weapon…) Again, I’m rambling… sorry!!!

 

[GoblinKeeper]

Lately I have felt compelled to follow the Steve Jones scenario wherein he spotted the shoe and had the conversation with Sudbury leading to Jones being asked by Sudbury to accompany him to interview Damien at his trailer on May 7th. I just can't get past why Jones was in the search party and the astounding fact (to me at least!) that he, who reportedly hated Damien because Jones believed Damien was a satan worshipper, spotted the running shoe in the water and later spoke to Sudbury about this looking like cult murders. Was this an answer Sudbury grabbed and held onto because he knew otherwise and this was the key Sudbury could use to point the guilt towards innocent persons whom no one really liked and more importantly, away from the actual murderers? I don't know but I am continuing to search this angle. Sudbury seems to fit neatly in the scenarios that you have all presented. If it was a coincidence that Jones was searching then what a stroke of luck Sudbury had with Jones proposing this idea of cult murders. And Sudbury ran with that idea and how! JMO

Good points, zencompass! What I’d really like to know is why SJ saw the laceless shoe in the water and believed it was related to the disappearance so quickly. I have studied photos and the videos of the recovery of the bodies (JMB’s word BTW… hmmm?) and have noticed a great deal of trash in the water and along the banks and in the woods. Such a contaminated scene might not lead the average individual to conclude something instantaneously, but not SJ. He radioed he had found something, and the police come on the run and minutes later…

Sudbuy likely did know otherwise… why was he the only CC-DTF member on the scene? And just for a real mind-blower, does anyone recall what happened August 23, 1987 and 260 miles to the west? That occurrence is not the only one that has remained unsolved like this one… there have been at least 6 other child murders that were speculated about (Authorities Wonder If 6 Kids' Deaths in East Arkansas Are Related, Memphis Commercial Appeal, June 3, 1993). It really makes you wonder just what was going on out that way for so long…

 

[GoblinKeeper]

Don't forget that Jones was Driver's "right hand man" so to speak. I don't know which of the two was the most vehement about "Satanism" but I believe it was Driver. I remember reading somewhere (sorry, can't remember where) that Jones has expressed remorse about his part in the convictions. Wish I could remember where I read it, but I did!

CR, I believe it was JD who was most rabid on the subject, since he brought SJ on board in the department, and even claimed in one of the documentaries that he went around training on the subject, IIRC. I will have to watch them again and let you know about that. It wouldn’t surprise me that SJ had a change of heart, but I would never expect it of JD. Even if the men were to be exonerated, he wouldn’t apologize nor change his opinion.

 

[GoblinKeeper]

I've thought of a scenario but it's really out there.
I got to thinking about how Aaron said that the men were speaking Spanish (in his first interview) and then I read in Callahan's that Tony Bradley was suspected of taking forfeited money and how most of the couriers were Spanish-speaking. A possibility is that Aaron witnessed Sudbury, Bradley and some Spanish-speaking drug traffickers in that spot where "the clubhouse" was. If so, then when the 3 boys spied from the clubhouse on May 5th they were spotted by the men who proceeded to kill them. The police there could not have any witnesses to this meeting and that is why the boys were murdered. My scenario consists of a) Sudbury and Bradley were suspected of keeping guns and forfeited money b) newspaper reports read that most of the drug couriers were Spanish-speaking c) why would Aaron mention "Spanish speaking" unless he actually heard it from his hiding spot in the clubhouse d) there was a type of "clubhouse" e) When hearing Jones say a cult killing, then Sudbury hung onto that idea and kept pushing that motive forward f) Sudbury was so eager to move quickly with the cult motive that he asked Jones to go with him the next day to Damien's trailer. Drugs and money have caused so much murder over the years that I thought that this scenario could possibly have happened. Who knows how high up this racket went - certainly over the police department's head and likely a judge or so - maybe even higher - imagine a highway moving vast amounts of money and some of that you controlled through the police. The money involved could have been in the hundreds of thousands possibly close to a million - because there is no record no one will ever know. This is my latest convoluted theory. JMO

Wow, now that is something that I have never even thought about, zencompass! Thank you for bringing that to our attention. I bet if we really looked into that angle, there might be something to it, especially since there had been rumblings (and even today there still are) that there are drug flights landing in western Arkansas and being transported through the state to the I40/I55 hub. Could the Spanish have been Nicaraguan? Again, it brings the WMPD into it, and the sheer luck of SJ being on site to identify it as “Satanic” makes it believable, at least to me. This is definitely another angle that will have to go up on my 3x5 wall! Keep on theorizing, zencompass!!!

 

[GoblinKeeper]

I think that I proved to myself that someone can take one notion - let's say that Aaron for example mentioned Spanish-speaking people he said he heard. I used that one piece and created a scenario from only the Spanish-speaking part. To me, when Sudbury heard the 'cult-killing' notion and took that one piece and used that with Steve Jones and Jerry Driver to create a scenario involving Damien, Jason and Jessie in cult murders is far more reaching and much more impossible than the scenario with the Spanish-speaking men. I wanted to understand how they came up with that outrageous scenario and given what C.R. told me about Jerry Driver's beliefs and how he convinced Steve Jones of it shows how one little notion can create such chaos. But now I want to set this aside and concentrate on looking for clues that fit with the scenarios that are far more believable and make sense, such as C.Reader's and G. Keeper's and Graznik's. I totally agree with all of what you have put forward and I plan to concentrate on interviews and observations that were swept aside because they did not "fit" with the "cult scenario" which everyone involved at the time seemed to be caught up in. Gosh it seemed to happen so quickly(the rush to judgment of the 3 teens) but I suppose that is how the hysteria happened so long ago in Salem. JMO

What you have to remember, zencompass, is that this could all fit together in a nice, neat little package in a way none of us have thought of yet, but are getting closer to all the time. I have made some unpleasant and surprising findings over the last week about something else that seems to be more and more connected to other events, and possibly even including this one. So don’t abandon that line of thought; keep it on the back burner, but don’t let it stop boiling!

 

[GoblinKeeper]

My question of how the boys ended up in the far side of the woods and having read the statement that Chris was afraid to cross the pipe, I am wondering whether someone with a truck picked up the 3 boys on Goodwin Street and put the bikes in the back of his truck. (Many witnesses reported seeing the boys on Goodwin.)This person then drove the boys to wherever the site was that Goblin Keeper places the boys initially before they are moved to the woods and their bikes are tossed into the water by the pipe. This would tie in with Goblin Keeper's scenario wherein the boys were lured somewhere, possibly to do with their scouting. This would also tie in with Compassionate Reader's surmise that there was a paedophile group and TH was likely part of it and they were waiting at that initial site. TH drove a pick up truck. After taking the boys and their bikes to the designated place, then TH could have headed back to D.J.'s to establish his alibi (as per Goblin Keeper - they were coming and going all the while establishing alibis). JMO

I do believe that when all is said and done zencompass, that something close to this will have been what happened to get the boys out of Robin Hood Hills. Whether it was TWH or a member of a corrupt police department we have yet to figure out and it is all mere speculation for now.

 

[GoblinKeeper]

Hey zencompass, don't give me any credit for coming up with a theory of my own! I'm as lost as most people are when it comes to this case. Over the few years that I've researched this case I've formed an opinion that seems reasonable, but as far as putting together my own theory?! No. Forums have played a fundamental part for my understanding though - providing much needed aid with analysis. My rough opinion, so to speak, goes in the general direction of the so called manhole theory. But I do not fully subscribe to it, and I still think there's so much work left that needs doing.

What GK is doing right now is impressive, and I think there's still great need for it after all these years. And "brainstorming", like you just did, can shine light on certain aspects that might not have been considered in the past. Whether it's in regards to who the real killer might be, or general understanding of certain aspects of how this case was handled. Every small piece can add to the bigger picture! And a good thing about this forum in particular is how it (i.e. the users) stays constructive (well, most of the time at least).

Graznik, you’re too modest. You’ve brought up a number of good points to help me understand more about this case, as has Compassionate Reader. Your opinion is as valid as anyone’s and just as valuable! I agree, the forums have definitely helped to hone opinions and theories, and if not for them, our work would be lost in cyberspace and unable to help anyone.

 

[GoblinKeeper]

Well, like you said, it's hard to provide any proof of this. Both the possible connection between TH and JKM, and a possible pedophile ring. I don't mind a bit of speculation though! What has lead you to think this might be possible? And I'm not asking that in a questioning way, simply out of interest.

I have been thinking along those lines myself… The fact that LGH Jr., AH, JKM, possibly TWH, as well as several other suspected individuals in the area were molesters certainly doesn’t do anything to dispel the notion. And for members of the WMPD to be involved, who better to keep an eye on the rest of the ring and keep them out of the way and mostly quiet? And, of course, this is very much speculation, as CR has pointed out.

 

[GoblinKeeper]

I noted that Graznik posed the question of who had the opportunity during the early hours of May 6th to actually murder the three young boys if the time of death was then. I am very interested to hear what everyone's views are concerning Dr. Peretti's estimation of the time of death for the boys being between 1:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. on the morning of May 6th?

zencompass, I for one agree with the TOD being later than originally put forth. I believe that the boys were abducted from the area, taken elsewhere, whether to a manhole, an abandoned shed, or elsewhere, attacked, and left for disposal later (I hate to say it this way, I must be starting to think like the sicko(s) who did this – should I take a break and play pinochle with the card sharps in the dining room?). That would leave the actual TOD to be somewhere within that timeframe. Which means that three innocent boys were left to slowly die due to reasons we don’t know and frankly, that I can’t fathom.

 

[GoblinKeeper]

GK, just been catching up on your posts - hope you're doing better now!

Another thing about JKM: he beat his wife pretty badly in (iirc) the December before the murders and was arrested for it, that's on record. And I believe she would have lied for him, for a variety of possible reasons. This thought is supported by the ever-changing alibi. I seriously doubt he had one at all. And this cop's ex wife he was seeing (I strongly suspect, with the full knowledge of his wife) -- I think she lied for him, too.

How awkward would that have been for the cop? Not only was his ex seeing a wife-beating convicted child rapist (who had, through Barbara, access to the kids) but the pedo was describing in graphic detail the horrible crimes he committed against his own kids, in terms that can only be described as thorough enjoyment of the chance to re-live those moments - and that was all on record with the cop's workmates...

Looking into this man, seeing how vindictive and manipulative he can be to his own family members, I truly wonder if a secondary motive for that wall of blah he gave to the police was expressing 'power' over a cop (via being a threat to the ex wife and kids), just because he could.

I'm glad he's right up there on your suspect list, as he is on mine. I also cannot comprehend how and why the police did not treat him as a prime suspect, despite everything that makes him one.

For me, he's probably a better suspect that Hobbs, for several (not very popular here ) reasons. Also not very popular is my extremely dim view of JMB, who spent a large portion of his adult life victimising other people, including women and kids, and his cosy relationship with some members of LE. Which throws massive amounts of suspicion on his treatment as a suspect, but I won't go on about it here.

I can't focus on any one of these men for these reasons. Not sure I'd lump them all together, either, even if it does make thing nice and neat. I'd want some more conclusive evidence that Hobbs was indeed a pedophile, for a start, before I have him teaming up with the likes of JKM.

Not that the killer needs to have been a pedophile. A man with severe anger issues could have done all that damage, and never thought about the boys sexually at all.

Thanks for these posts and the work that goes into them, anyway. Good job!

Hi Ausgirl, I hope you have been doing well, we missed you here! You are right about JKM all the way around. What a snake, and I hate to insult snakes. I am wondering if his trip to the police station might not also have been to let them know, I know what happened, and if anything happens to me, it will get out. As far as our reasons for having our own suspects, I do not have any problems with revisiting theories and suspects, and if I am wrong, then I can always change my mind. But I do want to thank you for your contributions and thought-provoking statements. They help me to think, and when I am wandering around my room at 4:00 am and everyone is wondering what I am doing, thinking about these things helps to put me to sleep for a while. Welcome back, and do not stay away so long!!!

 

[GoblinKeeper]

I'm just gonna jump right in and further elaborate on this myself. I don't believe the boys were killed in the early hours of may 6th. However, I believe they died in the early hours of may 6th.
They were last seen at around 6.30 PM on may 5th. Some witnesses claimed to have seen them enter the woods or in the area around the woods. That leads me to the conclusion that they were attacked shortly after that, and never left those woods. But that does not mean that death was immediate. There could've been an initial attack that rendered the boys unconcious, or caused enough damage to cause death later on in the night/evening. To conclude, the time of the initial attack differs from the time of death. The latter occuring at a much later point, possibly during the early hours of the 6th. IIRC, lividity etc. supports this. And Peretti might actually have been right for once.

Now most people agree that the site where the bodies were found was not the crime scene. Rather, it was a dump site. So at some point the perp had to move the bodies there from the crime scene (which I believe was somewhere in or in the immediate area of the BB woods). Considering the amount of searching that was going on, it would've been very risky business. Unless the perp, for one reason or another, was part of the search efforts. If that was the case, the perp would know what areas were being search, and most importantly when it was happening. That would've made it possible to avoid police (note that the 11PM shift weren't notified of the missing boys) as well as searchers. The only real window of opportunity for this was roughly around 4-6AM on may 6th, if I am not mistaken. That leads me to conclude that if the boys were not dead beforehand, they were by then.

This is what brings me to believe that the crucial hours are around 7PM on the 5th, and 4-6AM on the 6th. The initial attack happened at around 7PM on the 5th, death much later, and the bodies were brought to the dumpsite around 4-6AM on the 6th.

I take NO credit for any of this myself. This is basically the opinion I've formed by researching the case myself, and most importantly, reading forums.
Each and everyone that has posted on several different forums over the years have made me come to this conclusion. This is their work rather than mine.
Furthermore, I am more than willing to change my mind.



I don't doubt that TH abused his family members, be it physichally, mentally or sexually. And JKM... Where to begin?!

Wasn't it RC that stated that the brown coat had been there for a while?! JMB might have relayed it in a statement or something?! I'll see if I can find it somewhere when I've got a little more time on my hands.

Hi Graznik! We seem to agree on the way the deaths would have occurred (Peretti right? Wow.), and I believe the one(s) responsible for them was part of the search, and may have been involved with the WMPD in some capacity. As you noted, the overnight shift was not notified about the missing boys; this leads to the ability of the murderer(s) to be able to manipulate the search in such a way that the final indignity for those poor boys was being placed in the water to avoid detection. That brown coat keeps coming back to me for some reason. If it was the one that was shown in the original PL movie, it reminds me of the type of coat a pilot might wear, or perhaps a trucker. That might be another angle to consider… and there I go again, off on another bunny trail. Slap me silly and call me Susan! I am derailing my own thread… must be getting tired. Thanks again for the thoughts and opinions, Graznik!

 

[GoblinKeeper]

Here's what I was remembering:

"SO I WENT UP THE HILL, AND WHEN I GOT UP THE HILL AND COME DOWN OVER THE OTHER SIDE, I SAW A BROWN COAT. FIRST I THOUGHT IT WAS MAYBE SOMEBODY LAYING SOMEWHERE, BUT IT WAS A BROWN COAT. AND I WALKED OVER AND I PICKED THE BROWN COAT UP. I DIDN'T INSPECT IT REAL CLOSE. ALL I DID WAS I STUCK MY HAND IN THE POCKETS AND IN ONE POCKET THERE WAS A DISPOSABLE SCHICK RAZOR BLADE. WHITE WITH A YELLOW CAP ON THE END OF IT. AND I PUT IT BACK IN THE POCKET. I MEAN, IT JUST DIDN'T LOOK NATURAL. I'VE BEEN TOLD, I THINK BY GARY GITCHELL, THAT HE'D BEEN DOWN THERE A MONTH OR TWO BEFORE, AND IT BEEN YOU MAYBE, THAT IT HAD BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AT THE TIME. I JUST SAW THE COAT AND I PICKED THE COAT UP FROM THERE AND I DIDN'T GO ANY FARTHER ON UP THE CREEK BANK."

http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jmb1.html

JMB found it and Gitchell (he thinks) told him it had been there for a while.

CR, that’s very interesting. JMB found it and GG told him it had been there for a while… Okay, so how did GG know it had been there for a while and just how long was that while? Why would he be in the woods at some point before the murders? Was he checking on something personally? If it was police business, why wasn’t the coat collected as possible evidence at that time, and notations made? I would really love to look at records in the WMPD vaults and see how many times GG actually patrolled… My personal opinion is that it wasn’t police business at all… Good find and thank you for that tidbit, CR!

 

[GoblinKeeper]

Thank you, zencompass, for your posts and contributions. I have enjoyed them making me think, and have also enjoyed seeing the way your posts have come along and your thoughts on this crime. I believe you have come to see the possibility, as others have, that the WMPD used the distraction of “Satanic panic” to steer the investigation away from their troubles and legal problems with the state. I have also been considering of late just how far up the chain this whole can of worm actually goes. DE, JB, and JM should never have been seriously considered, and with the evidence produced in court, there should never have been a conviction. But as we all know, the prosecution swayed the jury with a skewed presentation, a few well-placed outright lies, and by hiding away evidence that could have set them free. Keep the info coming, zencompass, and thank you once again!

 

[zencompass]

Dear GoblinKeeper,

Thank you for your kind words however it is your posts that have created a stir and have greatly motivated me to brain storm. Your encouragement to everyone is a breath of fresh air and this certainly helps me keep an open mind.

I have found the details and descriptions in your posts to be gripping like a page turner in a favourite book that I can't seem to read fast enough! Thank you! And keep posting!! And thanks for your positive attitude, quick wit and especially your caring and open-mindedness...so appreciated!!

 

[GoblinKeeper]

Dear GoblinKeeper,

Thank you for your kind words however it is your posts that have created a stir and have greatly motivated me to brain storm. Your encouragement to everyone is a breath of fresh air and this certainly helps me keep an open mind.

I have found the details and descriptions in your posts to be gripping like a page turner in a favourite book that I can't seem to read fast enough! Thank you! And keep posting!! And thanks for your positive attitude, quick wit and especially your caring and open-mindedness...so appreciated!!

:blushing:
Thank you, zencompass. I am honored that anything I may have said has motivated you to bring fresh ideas to our thread and spur us all on to ideas we would never have found on our own (at least for me, that is). Your post about Aaron and the Spanish-speaking men, for instance. It had never occurred to me that he could have been telling the police a truth that they waived and tried to focus him on the WM3. That was a stroke of genius, zencompass. I also wish to thank you for finding my posts to be inspiring; I've never thought of myself as inspiring, so that makes me feel good that I might actually have a good influence on someone with something I've said. I will say that I only wish to do my part to correct a grave injustice (words most definitely intended) done to three little boys and to three grown men who were no more than children themselves. I don't wish to accuse anyone without knowing all the facts, but I do feel that there are a number of people who have a great deal to answer for, if not in this world, then in the next. But I would like to know, before I shuffle off this mortal coil, that I've done all I can to help others who may one day be able to solve it. For me, that would be enough.

Now, don't you forget all the valuable insight you've already provided, and keep on theorizing, and asking questions! It is through all of our combined efforts that we progress. And you have inspired me to become more involved than ever in trying to finish my researches and posts so we can all someday join hearts and minds and say, "May you now rest in peace, Stevie, Christopher, and Michael."

Thank you again, zencompass! Now, I'm off to see what kind of mischief I can get into at 10:00 pm around this popsicle stand... Good night, and I will play some more catch up tomorrow (hopefully).

GK

 

[zencompass]

Well I have always found the determination of all the posters including Compassionate Reader, Graznik, CherLockhomes, EntreNous, reedus23, Hez, Ausgirl, Miranda!, justiceseeker and all of the others on the WestMemphis posts to keep the discussions for justice towards the real murderers of the little boys so compassionate and incredibly commendable.

CoolJ's post with the video of a true coerced police interrogation from the Fifth Estate truly opened my eyes and makes me want to learn more.

Reading everyone's posts and seeing the details unearthed and analyzed show how passionate and motivated you all are towards discovering what really happened that night and morning is amazing. You all deserve so much credit for deeply caring about what happened on May 5th and the early hours of May 6th. Thank you all!

 

[zencompass]

Thanks to Goblin-Keeper's mention of August 23 1987 I soon found myself reading about the murders of two teens in an area where drug-smuggling had taken place. Thanks GK! Then I kept searching.

The post by Cher Lockhomes on November 16, 2014, in the thread "Random Things about this case" really made me think. One of the links mentions the murders of the two teens on August 23, 1987 and the possibility that the boys had witnessed a drug smuggling transaction and were killed. Thank you Cher Lockhomes for this post!

 

[zencompass]

I was astounded to see information concerning the mother of Kevin Ives, one of the boys murdered on August 23 1987 on the website of Mara Leveritt who wrote 'Devil's Knot.' www.maraleveritt.com/links-to-more-information

The fact that the mother of one of the boys, Kevin Ives, refused to believe that her son and his friend had marijuana and fell asleep on the railroad track led to an exhumation of the bodies revealing that one had been beaten and the other boy shot. There is great suspicion surrounding this and many believe that the boys were left on the railroad tracks to cover up the murders.

Then I discovered that Mara Leveritt wrote a book about these murders "The Boys on the Tracks". Wow. The fact that she wrote a book about the WM3 and also about the teen boys' murders to me is another eye-opener. Both of these murder sites appear to involve cover-up, corrupt police officers and are both very "politically-connected". JMO