Found Deceased Greece - Dr. Suzanne Eaton, 60, American, gone for a run, Crete, 2 Jul 2019 *ARREST*

[CityDancer]

How would the locals know about her and her husband's work/heritage? Would they even know her full name? She was well known in academia, but she wasn't a celebrity. The Academy staff didn't know the level of her accomplishment. I don't see why they would take personal interest in their customers. Other locals too. To them she's just a tourist.

Exactly, @indicolite22.

 

[indicolite22]

What are your sources for the other suggestions?Star TV in Greece was very clear on this point:
the ear was cut off.

The theory that the ear was torn off was suggested by one of the posters here. I think rodents were mentioned in one of the articles (originally in Greek). I'll see if I can find it again. The point is that the ear was missing.

 

[CityDancer]

Well she might have made friends there? Or sometimes chatted with locals when on her daily run? How can we simply exclude that, we don't know what type of person she was. There are many tourists who enjoy contact with local residents, the local culture, local food etc. I don't think it's impossible that some of the locals knew her by name and had chatted with her, especially since she had been to the exact location several times previously. jmo

If they had wanted to attack every tourist who happens to be employed in Germany or have a Jewish spouse, they'd have to be attacking people left, right and centre.

 

[otto]

Burlap would be used to transport the body into and out of the car. And as concealment while in the car. The missing ear bothers me more. It's almost ritualistic - souvenir or trophy? That's why we really have to think outside the box on this. Throw out all the old assumptions. Is the motive mere shabby and ceremonial violence?

I'm inclined to think the obvious - a predator grabbed her when she was alone in an isolated location. Her murder was brutal and probably lasted from the time that she was abducted until almost the time that her body was dropped 3 or more hours later. The only thing this suggests to me is that this was not his first abduction and murder.

Every criminal event has a conspiracy theory. Almost always, there is no conspiracy. It's just a straight forward predator who abducted a female because he pre-planned to murder a female if he thought he could get away with it.

 

[afitzy]

There is NO REASON whatsoever to suggest she'd be prime target for a NN group. This spreading of "rumours" is starting to look suspicious to me. Yes there are NN sympathizers all over Europe atm (and outside Europe too!). Why would they pick her? She doesn't even look "German" (whatever that means) and if spoken to, she would almost certainly reply in English with an American accent. To me it just doesn't make sense to suggest such a connection, hence my calling it out as suspicious and part of an agenda.

I completely agree with your assessment which is why I chose to not bring in articles on the topic. I just found it odd that within a couple of days we are learning of a group of neo-nazis that are active in Crete and that this angle is being discussed in German and Israeli press and most recently the DM.

Here is the NN comment from DM article:

"Police have questioned several people, including convicted criminals and Nazi sympathizers [BBM], and they have provided DNA samples. "

"Police hunting American biologist Suzanne Eaton's killer are focusing on neo-Nazi supporters on the Greek island of Crete".

"Her body was found deep at the bottom of a cave which was used by Nazis to store ammunition during the second World War".

"Crete has groups of Nazi fanatics and supporters who trade in memorabilia and souvenirs left behind by soldiers".

"Police believe the location of the caves would only have been known to a few around there and particularly those with an interest in Nazi background".

"Police have questioned several people, including convicted criminals and Nazi sympathizers, and they have provided DNA samples".

"The suspects were detained after detectives pieced together Dr Eaton's last movements before she disappeared, with the help of two witnesses who saw her in the hours before she went missing".

"They were released after questioning, but police believe they are close to a break-through in their investigation. They are said to be confident of making an arrest within days".

 

[otto]

There is NO REASON whatsoever to suggest she'd be prime target for a NN group. This spreading of "rumours" is starting to look suspicious to me. Yes there are NN sympathizers all over Europe atm (and outside Europe too!). Why would they pick her? She doesn't even look "German" (whatever that means) and if spoken to, she would almost certainly reply in English with an American accent. To me it just doesn't make sense to suggest such a connection, hence my calling it out as suspicious and part of an agenda.

I agree. We looked at every aspect of her research, personal, professional and teaching life a few days ago and there was nothing whatsoever to support any theory that the murder was personal or professional.

Other than tossing out the possibility, I haven't seen any reasoning for the possibility.

 

[indicolite22]

Well she might have made friends there? Or sometimes chatted with locals when on her daily run? How can we simply exclude that, we don't know what type of person she was. There are many tourists who enjoy contact with local residents, the local culture, local food etc. I don't think it's impossible that some of the locals knew her by name and had chatted with her, especially since she had been to the exact location several times previously. jmo

You can enjoy contact with the locals and the local culture and still remain relatively anonymous.

 

[CityDancer]

I completely agree with your assessment which is why I chose to not bring in articles on the topic. I just found it odd that within a couple of days we are learning of a group of neo-nazis that are active in Crete and that this angle is being discussed in German and Israeli press and most recently the DM.

Looks like there's opportunistic crimes and there's also opportunistic journalism.

 

[otto]

If this was planned in advance, how would the perp(s) know where she would go running that day in which route she would take in each direction? Why didn't they grab her soon after she left the Academy? If she used running trails they wouldn't be able to approach her with a car and would have to carry her.

Opportunistic predators are waiting for a victim to come along - that's what makes them opportunistic. They are predators so they always have a plan. The plan's first goal is to get away with it. That's why they wait for the right moment.

 

[Handsome Sailor]

Otto - a few questions regarding your theory. If only one attacker, how was Suzanne restrained if the perp drove the car? If he was a predator, presumably rape was the motive. Why were there no signs of rape when the body was discovered? Why was she fully clothed? If rape was the motive, why dispose of a body in a tunnel where all evidence of rape would remain untouched??
You keep alluding to the perp having done this before, but murders are extremely rare on Crete.

 

[indicolite22]

Opportunistic predators are waiting for a victim to come along - that's what makes them opportunistic. They are predators so they always have a plan. The plan's first goal is to get away with it. That's why they wait for the right moment.

I was trying to convey that personal/professional/conspiracy motive is not likely here. I meant a planned attack on her in particular.

 

[indicolite22]

The theory that the ear was torn off was suggested by one of the posters here. I think rodents were mentioned in one of the articles (originally in Greek). I'll see if I can find it again. The point is that the ear was missing.

Adding a source. It appears to me that the investigators aren't sure when the ear was removed (automatic translation, BBM):

In the last few hours, however, the light of publicity, they see from simple scenarios to ... unbelievable conspiracy theories, about the causes and conditions that this grievous crime has committed. Whether the American scientist was stabbed if there were sexual motives if the cut ear was made before her death or by rodents etc

However, the Head of Forensic Services of Crete, Antonis Papadomanalakis, in his statements at zarpanews.gr, categorically reiterated that he was not in a position to confirm anything, considering that "all contingencies are open and examined! When a corpse is rotting, it is very difficult to distinguish pre-death from post-mortem injuries. "

Warning: a distasteful photoshopped pic at the link
Η Suzanne Eaton δεν δολοφονήθηκε στην σπηλιά - chanianews.gr

 

[CityDancer]

Not sure why you quoted my post as I certainly wasn't suggesting that "they" want to attack every tourist with a Jewish spouse.

I'm not gonna reply to any Nazi related posts anymore. As I said I don't believe this was the motive so I'm not sure why my posts get picked apart.

As a reply to the conversation. Apologies if taken as quoting.

 

[CityDancer]

It's not the foreign press that's pushing the neo-Nazi angle, my friend. It's the Crete Police Commissioner and the State Coroner who are the sources of the reporting!!

I don't care who made the claim, it's unsubstantiated. Also note the Daily Beast are calling her a "superstar scientist" to amp up the suggestion she may have been taken out bec. of that. That is century-old journalism and sorry but I have to call BS when I see it. She was a great mind indeed. But to a Cretan farmer (even, to a Cretan farmer with neoNazi ideology) a "superstar scientist" is Hawking or Einstein. Not a lady working at MaxPlanck on the developmental genetics of the Drosophila fruitfly. The police are correct to search every angle, but I'm certain the spokesperson's statement is being quoted snipped, or out of context.

 

[otto]

Otto - a few questions regarding your theory. If only one attacker, how was Suzanne restrained if the perp drove the car? If he was a predator, presumably rape was the motive. Why were there no signs of rape when the body was discovered? Why was she fully clothed? If rape was the motive, why dispose of a body in a tunnel where all evidence of rape would remain untouched??

You keep alluding to the perp having done this before, but murders are extremely rare on Crete.

She was alone on a road with a cliff drop on one side, a cliff climb on the other side, and no where to run. If he drove up behind her and stopped in front of her, she was cornered. She could either run up hill around the corner in the hot sun, or try to get past him. She was several miles into her run, he got out of his car, he had a knife and he was determined to abduct her.

Presumably rape, power, brutality was the reason for abduction. It takes more time to complete rape analysis - something like 2 weeks. She was dressed in her jogging clothes.

Her body was dropped after dark into a 40 foot deep cave through a secret entrance in an olive field. Her body was found 6 days later. Cooler temperatures slow decomposition. The only reason she was found is because someone investigated the bad smell at a different entrance.

The red arrow points down hill.

 

[otto]

I was trying to convey that personal/professional/conspiracy motive is not likely here. I meant a planned attack on her in particular.

She was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[Handsome Sailor]

My own feeling is that if Dr. Eaton jogged that route daily, then the perps would be expecting her. Why was she targeted? Possibly because she was "Ausganger" - a foreigner. But it raises the troubling question: she was not merely murdered. She was abducted as well. Why?

 

[indicolite22]

My own feeling is that if Dr. Eaton jogged that route daily, then the perps would be expecting her. Why was she targeted? Possibly because she was "Ausganger" - a foreigner. But it raises the troubling question: she was not merely murdered. She was abducted as well. Why?

IMO a woman walking/running alone was an easy prey to the perp. She was abducted because killing her on the spot wasn't the perp's objective. They took her somewhere where they could be undisturbed. Leaving her by the roadside would also guarantee that she would be found quickly.

 

[indicolite22]

She was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

That was my feeling from the beginning.

 

[otto]

My own feeling is that if Dr. Eaton jogged that route daily, then the perps would be expecting her. Why was she targeted? Possibly because she was "Ausganger" - a foreigner. But it raises the troubling question: she was not merely murdered. She was abducted as well. Why?

BBM
It was posted earlier today that she ran South from the academy on one of the 2 days. It sounds like there wasn't a jogging pattern that the suspect could follow to capture her.

There's nothing to suggest that Suzanne Eaton was a targeted attack. In fact, everything points to Suzanne jogging on the road from Afrata when she was abducted and murdered.

Victims are abducted and murdered, "not merely murdered." The thrill is not to murder, but power over the victim. I think that the longer a victim is kept alive, the more experienced the murderer.

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