Greta 8-15-08

[curiositycat]

We really don't even know much about this at all. According to the local newsperson on Greta the family didn't know a thing about it yet. What if they don't agree? I wonder if they will still bond her out? She has to have somewhere to go.

 

[SillyNilly]

The hearing on the 21st was to lower bail. If she's getting bailed out that hearing will be taken off the court's calendar, right?

 

[DazzlinDebSD]

Casey is probably smart enough to know Padilla is in for the money, because again, once he posts bond and she goes to court on Thursday and is possibly charged, and is back in jail, Padilla makes an easy $50,000.00

How does he make $50K??? I'm not following you. I bailed my brother out. It cost me $20,000. He was convicted three months later and I got my $20,000 back. I didn't make any money. What are you saying?

 

[SillyNilly]

We really don't even know much about this at all. According to the local newsperson on Greta the family didn't know a thing about it yet. What if they don't agree? I wonder if they will still bond her out? She has to have somewhere to go.

And maybe Mom and Dad really didn't want her bailed out.

 

[AmyD]

PattyG, what did you mean about Padilla making an easy 50K? He said his nephew (a bondsman) is putting up ALL the money. The Anthony's don't even have to come up with the 10%.

 

[marly56]

I just don't understand what has made this case lose the focus of finding Caylee. As much as I am not fond of the psychics at least they were out searching.

this case is full of distractions ,

 

[LaLaw2000]

I thought the Padilla's were bad until Garrison came on.

Somewhere, PT Barnum is smiling.

:clap::clap::clap:

Sums up my feelings as well!

 

[Themis]

How does he make $50K??? I'm not following you. I bailed my brother out. It cost me $20,000. He was convicted three months later and I got my $20,000 back. I didn't make any money. What are you saying?

That's because YOU provided the bail and if the defendant shows up, the court returns all of the money to the person who provided it. However, when a bail bondsman is involved, their nonrefundable fee is 10% of the amount of the bail -- for using their money and for their taking the risk that the defendant might flee.

 

[my2cents]

How does he make $50K??? I'm not following you. I bailed my brother out. It cost me $20,000. He was convicted three months later and I got my $20,000 back. I didn't make any money. What are you saying?

He won't make any money off of bailing her out. He is putting up the money, so he is not getting the normal 10% that they usually get for bailing people out. Usually, the family, or whoever, pays 10% to the bail bondsman and that money is not refunded. The BBM will front the money in case the perp flees. He will make money off the publicity it will bring him. I think that's what they are talking about.

 

[AmyD]

That's because YOU provided the bail and if the defendant shows up, the court returns all of the money to the person who provided it. However, when a bail bondsman is involved, their nonrefundable fee is 10% of the amount of the bail -- for using their money and for their taking the risk that the defendant might flee.

But he's not charging the 10%. At least, that's what I thought he said tonight. Did anyone else hear that?

 

[McSev]

I agree this forum has become 3 times worse that IS boards and Topix combined. If I wanted to hear everybody in this case called b@$ch and worse I would have stayed with Topix. I thought the posts here were more mature but the posts with vomit and spit at the end makes me wonder the age and education level of the poster. We have not been given any forensic results and there fore can not say without a doubt that Caylee is not still alive. The bond for Casey is already set at a ridicules level for the crimes she is charged with. At this point I can only say very happy I do not live in Florida.

I think the posts here ARE more mature. I've read other forums, and if one believes that there's a ting of disbelief and anger here, then checking the local Orlando media message boards is a must IMO to dispell that notion. Most of them are outraged and it shows.

The words "strange", "bizarre", and "weird" were all used pretty frequently for the last 4 weeks. With this new twist regarding Padilla and his merry band of bond money, the new words you see repeated since 5 PM today are "disgusted", "appalled", "speechless", and "angry." And I have seen criticisms of the Anthony's new spokesman, but who am I to complain about him because I'm glad they GOT one even though I think he has a hell of a job ahead of him and I wish him luck for the familys' sake.

No, we haven't been given any forensic evidence Caylee is dead, however nobody's (either side) proven she's alive either. She's missing. That's an even argument that won't be resolved until we have more information from LE -and that's, IMO, where believe the facts will come eventually. For me, they won't be from Jose Baez, they won't be from the Anthony family or their spokesperson, and they also won't be from the bondboy.

The bail set for Casey is high...however it is high in limits with the law not only of Florida, but also in the US Bail Reform Act of 1984. I think it does allow for this type of scenario (or worse, no bond) when the person being charged, for example, as a flight risk. Another condition it allows is for if the defended is charged with obstruction of justice, yet she's only been charged with making false statements to police. (I think differently from others in media and print this week who thought she'd get charged with more charges and those would related to theft. I say they'll focus on an obstruction charge, and that charge alone can keep her from having bail under current law.)

I will say this: judges do not make bail that high without knowing they have legal precedence which has stood up in court prior. Excessive or not, I do believe that Baez knew in advance bail was going to be an issue and he needed to present a compelling law argument to convince the court it wasn't. He didn't and here's what we have now.

 

[SuziQ]

We really don't even know much about this at all. According to the local newsperson on Greta the family didn't know a thing about it yet. What if they don't agree? I wonder if they will still bond her out? She has to have somewhere to go.

Exactly, I don't think the judge will buy any of it. This yahoo thinks he can set the bond conditions? Good luck with that one.

 

[Bobby62]

The house is a four bedroom, two bath house, listed as 1472 Sq. feet. There is not much room to keep secrets. I reckon we're fixin' to find out if this hombre is all hat and no cattle or if he is as good as he says he is.

Moseyin' off to bed

 

[LaLaw2000]

And maybe Mom and Dad really didn't want her bailed out.

Maybe they did not, but ultimately the decision is up to Casey ONLY. She is the only one who can say yes or no concerning anything in this case.

Sometimes I HAVE to make myself remember that Cindy and George are grandparents only. They have no say as to if and when Casey accepts anyone making her bail. She is also Caylee's mother (such as she is), and Grandma & Grandpa have no say.

Casey does NOT deserve to be out of jail or have another free moment. I believe that she murdered her child.


Padilla and Garrison are out for financial gain and they are both nutjobs!

:furious:

 

[Themis]

And maybe Mom and Dad really didn't want her bailed out.

If George, Cindy and Lee don't know anything about it, then this was arranged by Casey, possibly her attorney and the bail bondsman. It seems likely the collateral was exclusive information from Casey. Possibly some media company, writer or publisher was involved. The bondsman isn't going to write the story. Since she's not yet convicted, any "Son of Sam" laws wouldn't apply if Florida's law is typical -- the laws generally apply only to convicted criminals.

 

[DazzlinDebSD]

Were you watching the same Melinda Duckett I saw?! WTH?! She didn't seem stable to me at all! I don't think there are many here who don't know who Trenton Duckett is or was. Trenton was mentioned a couple of weeks ago when Josh went to meet with the Anthony's in Orlando actually.

I don't think it is too remote to think that Casey could or would commit suicide. She has nothing now and is probably one of the most hated mothers in America as it stands. Her brand is as a liar, thief, and spoiled rotten $itch! It isn't going to get better from here on out either. Men, other than that freaky looking Bounty Hunter, are going to steer completely clear of her no matter what happens. A woman like Casey can't tolerate that as men are her ego. It is how she judges herself. I can fully well see her taking her own life given the chance.

I really didn't follow the Duckett case. I only heard the NG interview when NG was asking her about a lie detectors test. A few days later she was dead. Well Casey's life revolves around getting laid and partying. That won't be happening anytime soon. She'll go balistic and kill herself. God help George and Cindy. She may take them out too.

 

[SuziQ]

The bail set for Casey is high...however it is high in limits with the law not only of Florida, but also in the US Bail Reform Act of 1984. I think it does allow for this type of scenario (or worse, no bond) when the person being charged, for example, as a flight risk. Another condition it allows is for if the defended is charged with obstruction of justice, yet she's only been charged with making false statements to police. I will say this: judges do not make bail that high without knowing they have legal precedence which has stood up in court prior. Excessive or not, I do believe that Baez knew in advance bail was going to be an issue and he needed to present a compelling law argument to convince the court it wasn't. He didn't and here's what we have now.

And two appeals courts sided with the judge.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Wow, ok...was he questioned about where he was going to shack up with her? Conditions of her bond? I mean, if he is going to watch her, he will have to keep his eyes on her 24/7. I'm curious as to his conditions for bond, etc. This guy is slime for even entertaining getting her out.

He didn't mention where specifically that I caught. The conditions of her bond he didn't mention that I recall either. He did say something in an article to the effect that once she gets "comfortable" with having him there in the same room all the time instead of being in jail...he can get her to talk. Riiiiight. I missed a lot of the interview because I couldn't get past the glasses and his demeanor. It simply grossed me out. I hope Casey is darned happy with her "new roomie" tho! Woohoo! Trading in cute Tony for this guy is going to be so much worse than jail for her!! LMAO

 

[shemc]

Where is the link on this site for the Trenton Ducket case?

I remember hearing about it but I just recently joined and was not around when that happened.

I'd like to see the time lines, etc...if you have them?? Can anyone point me to a link?

 

[Patty G]

Well I always said I wish Dog and Beth would get a hold of Casey. Beth would get the truth out of her. I would feel better if Dog was the bounty hunter involved. LOL

When Caylee went missing, Dog, The Bounty Hunter was looking for leads regarding this case. I have his daughter Lisa as a friend on my MySpace page and she sent out a bulletin to all her friends regarding leads etc., on July 21, 2008. I wanted to post the MySpace bulletin, but after 14 days they are gone.

Of course, I sent him an email and a video of Cindy talking a few days before July 21, 2008 and mentioned going to OTR site and watch Greta's videos.

I wrote on July 21, 2008: DOG, I know you have a heart of gold, but I would be very cautious on bonding Casey out of jail right now, should you be one of the bounty hunters willing to post bond for Casey! Right now America feels Casey should stay right where she is because Casey returning back to her parents would be a disaster and a real flight risk! America is not happy with the grandmother right now either as she knows more than what she is stating.

I think Dog, after following this case and the way it all went down, he was smart enough not to get involved. (No, I don't think my email did anything at all, it was just a frustration moment for me)