Ground Searches & communication from LE: UPDATES

[Whisperer]

Great Post, nomoresorrow!

I don't think it is comparing apples and oranges at all SS. The LE in Satsuma, could also work the case as a murder investigation at the same time as a missing child investigation.

I perfectly understand why they would not waste time or money searching areas outside the immediate crime area. There is no reason to without a tip.

Has every square inch of the immediate area in a radius of one mile been eliminated?

 

[Whisperer]

The very next thing is to eliminate the residents of the crime scene from involvement..oops! that's not done either.

I trust the hounds....did they have the sheets and clothing of the victim, though? They didn't find her clothes she wore that day for over a week. We don't even know if Haleigh ever slept in the bed that day. We do know bedding was washed, so we were told...what a coincidence!

 

[chesterp]

The very next thing is to eliminate the residents of the crime scene..oops! that not done either.

I trust the hounds....did they have the sheets and clothing of the victim, though? They didn't find her clothes she wore that day for over a week. We don't even know if Haleigh ever slept in the bed that day. We do know bedding was washed, so we were told...what a coincidence!

Are you a detective on the case?

 

[KOOL LOOK]

LE KNEW that CA was responsible because they had proof that Caylee was dead and they had nothing except proven lies from CA from the beginning of the case. Of course, they wanted CA to confess (which she won't).

This is comparing apples to oranges again.

If LE is going to wait on someone to confess in this case...they will be waiting until hell freezes over and then some. Why would the perp confess when they have everyone believing it is the father and his new wife who are responsible for her disappearance?! To kidnappers, this is a perfect scenario. They get away with it and the cloud of suspicion is on others instead of themselves.

LE needs to be pushed into conducting further searches of areas in which they previously were not allowed to search or did not do a thorough search of before. I believe Teresa's instincts should be followed and someone needs to get LE's @ss in gear to search that area. It can't hurt the case and it will only serve to move it forward if nothing is found.

Hear ye hear ye!!! This post got me riled up :woohoo: Not only is it the families place to keep LE on their toes, but the publics also. Becuase it's in their interests too. In my opinion, LE should be looking everyday within a certain radius til they covered all that territory, including following tip searches. I missed TN's theory on where to search, would like to hear it.

Being that Haleigh, a body hasn't been found yet, and it being a child lends credence to she may possibly still be alive. The longer no body, the better the statistics she's alive. Which is vice versa for adults. Unless it was a SO, then prbably her chances are much less for survival. But a kidnapping for the sake of having a child is promising.

This case is so weird in some aspects. Because of the demographics, income levels, etc... and to not have any more factual information coming out concerning her whereabouts. Just unreal.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Great Post, nomoresorrow!

I don't think it is comparing apples and oranges at all SS. The LE in Satsuma, could also work the case as a murder investigation at the same time as a missing child investigation.

I perfectly understand why they would not waste time or money searching areas outside the immediate crime area. There is no reason to without a tip.

Has every square inch of the immediate area in a radius of one mile been eliminated?

Not until they can eliminate the area of the green trailer it has not to my knowledge.

They are running parallel investigations and have been since the beginning. It is SOP.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Do you know this for FACT...... Well I do KNOW for fact they are SEARCHING and take this case very serious.

I would not wish this scenario on my worst enemy.... It is so easy to be so jugdemental without all the facts.

Do you KNOW Ron? Do you KNOW Teresa? Have you met Crystal and aware of the pain she is going through? Many cases involving CHILDREN no matter how old they are tears a family apart.....If all the facts are not known and LE is not broadcasting WTH is going on to feed the publics need to know.... I feel it is in Haleigh's best interest for justice DEAD or ALIVE..... She will be found...if all LE had a magic genie bottle ALL CRIMES would be solved ASAP wouldn't that be a wonderful scenario...or better yet....NO CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN OR ANYONE..... Well the real World does not work that way and PATIENCE is the key to everything in life.

Haleigh will be found either way when she is supposed too.... As for Caylee, she was right around the corner and she was found on a FLUKE....Did that mean LE was not dilegently working on the case?

Well we did learn an officer didn't be diligent and serious concerning Caylee's case. LE in general are probably being hard working concerning this case as you say, but it only takes one employee of LE to let the ball drop in any aspect of the case from tips, leads, etc... that could have already hindered the case from being solved. We want know til we know.

I'm in agreements with the others, LE needs to start pushing a little harder, reveal some info to the public so maybe fresh new leads will come in.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The very next thing is to eliminate the residents of the crime scene from involvement..oops! that's not done either.

I trust the hounds....did they have the sheets and clothing of the victim, though? They didn't find her clothes she wore that day for over a week. We don't even know if Haleigh ever slept in the bed that day. We do know bedding was washed, so we were told...what a coincidence!

LE had a choice of several items in the mh to use to give the dogs a mark. They chose the bedding, but could have used something else if it was at all in question about her washing the blankets. It was their mistake not Misty's, imo.

 

[Whisperer]

Glad to hear it was not Misty's error...that would have concerned me if she misled them.

 

[lonetraveler]

The very next thing is to eliminate the residents of the crime scene from involvement..oops! that's not done either.

I trust the hounds....did they have the sheets and clothing of the victim, though? They didn't find her clothes she wore that day for over a week. We don't even know if Haleigh ever slept in the bed that day. We do know bedding was washed, so we were told...what a coincidence!

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Great points, all of them, Whisperer! It is truly amazing that the SOs have been cleared but the two adults living in the MH have not. I also trust the hounds.

 

[elle1919]

One thing I have learned by being on WS is that simply because it hasn't happened before (or we haven't come across it yet)...certainly doesn't mean it cannot happen. There is case after case here which proves this point.

Statistics don't tell the real story. Numbers don't mean anything when you deal with criminal behavior. They can give an idea of how many crimes are committed in select ways, but they will never give us an idea of new ways for children to go missing and the exclusive reasons behind them.

I would like to understand the problem LE is having searching in the area of that green trailer. If the man lives there rent free, the landlord can grant permission to search the property I would think. If he isn't cooperating either...it is all the more reason to search the area. LE needs to rip the place apart, imo. In order to find out where Haleigh IS...they have find out where she is not! Rule it out completely and move on...

Totally agree SS. Do we know who owns the property the green trailer sits on? Is there any way to find out?

 

[cajun]

Totally agree SS. Do we know who owns the property the green trailer sits on? Is there any way to find out?

Yes, but we can only give initials so it won't be much help to you..

You can go here and type in 210 Green Ln or Lane not sure which one pulls up the record

http://www.putnam-fl.com/palookup/main.php

There is someone else living there and his initials are GH.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Glad to hear it was not Misty's error...that would have concerned me if she misled them.

I don't believe Misty did mislead them. Again, LE made the choice of what items to allow the dogs to get their mark. They could have picked up her shoes instead. It was THEIR mistake, not Misty's.

 

[Whisperer]

It wasn't a mistake of LE if Haleigh had not been sleeping there though or if the bedding was washed beforehand and they didn't know it.

 

[lil momma]

thought i would ask, maybe i misunderstood, but how do we know that these are the same sheets that were on the bed or in the washing machine? Do we know for sure that these sheets came from within the MH?

I might have missed something so i thought i would ask

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I am still hoping they do more ground searches.I do not understand why they stopped them.They really need to do them.I will continue to pray haleigh is found.

 

[lonetraveler]

I don't believe Misty did mislead them. Again, LE made the choice of what items to allow the dogs to get their mark. They could have picked up her shoes instead. It was THEIR mistake, not Misty's.

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So if Misty stated that Haleigh was in the toddler's bed when actually she wasn't in the toddler's bed, then she isn't misleading LE? There have been many interviews where the story changed time and time again about where the little girl was actually sleeping. I truly can not even begin to think that LE decided all on their own to grab the toddler bed sheets without asking where Haleigh last slept, to use for the cadaver dogs to scent. So it is LE's fault if they chose something that Haleigh had not come into contact with to use for scent when her caretaker was most likely standing right there????????

 

[lonetraveler]

One thing I have learned by being on WS is that simply because it hasn't happened before (or we haven't come across it yet)...certainly doesn't mean it cannot happen. There is case after case here which proves this point.

Statistics don't tell the real story. Numbers don't mean anything when you deal with criminal behavior. They can give an idea of how many crimes are committed in select ways, but they will never give us an idea of new ways for children to go missing and the exclusive reasons behind them.

I would like to understand the problem LE is having searching in the area of that green trailer. If the man lives there rent free, the landlord can grant permission to search the property I would think. If he isn't cooperating either...it is all the more reason to search the area. LE needs to rip the place apart, imo. In order to find out where Haleigh IS...they have find out where she is not! Rule it out completely and move on...

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Is there any information out there, anywhere that confirms that LE has even made an attempt to search the green trailer? I'm just getting so pi**ed at LE's invisible searching for this little girl. I'm getting more suspicious by the day that there is a much bigger story behind this area than we could ever imagine. I think that there has to be someone very high on the totem pole who does not want people searching or getting into certain people's business in that area. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much drug trade going on in that area of Florida. It would not be the first time that something was covered up to hush the media and to stop people from interferring in something illegal going on. This has happended very close to my area that I live in, so I do know that this goes on. A little girl missing is not going to be allowed to interfere with a very prosperous enterprise. This is my suspicions and my opinon, but this is the way I beginning to think.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

LE is not searching unless they are pushed. They are waiting for someone to confess and tell them where the body is. Same thing they did with kc. They knew all along she was guilty and she knew where Caylee was. They had to wait it out, and they did...a utility worker found her.

I say dispatch that Orlando meter reader to Putnam County!

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I say dispatch that Orlando meter reader to Putnam County!
I agree.:toast:

 

[Skully]

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Is there any information out there, anywhere that confirms that LE has even made an attempt to search the green trailer? I'm just getting so pi**ed at LE's invisible searching for this little girl. I'm getting more suspicious by the day that there is a much bigger story behind this area than we could ever imagine. I think that there has to be someone very high on the totem pole who does not want people searching or getting into certain people's business in that area. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much drug trade going on in that area of Florida. It would not be the first time that something was covered up to hush the media and to stop people from interferring in something illegal going on. This has happended very close to my area that I live in, so I do know that this goes on. A little girl missing is not going to be allowed to interfere with a very prosperous enterprise. This is my suspicions and my opinon, but this is the way I beginning to think.

Don't be so hard on LE, just because you arn't hearing stuff, doesn't mean they aren't doing their jobs. They are working on it every single day. There may be things going on that they don't want out there, they want everyone where they can reach them, when the time comes. But the most important thing is to bring Haleigh home first.

 

[chesterp]

Don't be so hard on LE, just because you arn't hearing stuff, doesn't mean they aren't doing their jobs. They are working on it every single day. There may be things going on that they don't want out there, they want everyone where they can reach them, when the time comes. But the most important thing is to bring Haleigh home first.

Thank you for this post. We all have different opinions about the who,what,when, why and how Haleigh disappeared. I do value each and everyone's theory and opinion, but I do not understand the purpose of being snide about this case, there is a difference between stating an opinion based on what has been reported through media and personal knowledge of the case.

Major difference from sleuthing and being snippy... bottom line.... the purpose of each post is to help find Haleigh and bring her home. We all have different theories on what happened and who possibly did what.... The GOAL is to find out the truth. It would be wonderful if through sleuthing, prayer and God only knows what else Haleigh is found no matter what before her August 18th birthday... This sounds all too familiar....A promise was made that Caylee was going to be home safe and sound by her August 9th? birthday..... the birthday party they had, KC and her statement about she will be home by by then...came and went..... we know all to clearly because of the decomp there was not a snowball chance in hell this was to be true.

But Haleigh, there is no definitive proof she is deceased or living with someone else due to what happened and our LACK of knowing the truth because the "KEY" is confused, unsure of WTH happened, and many unfounded media reports that continued to give us hope and faith she would be found so many times. Sleuthing is wonderful...I hope through positive energy and thoughts we can help make the Birthday a happy event or bring closure to the truth of what happened to this precious little girl.

There are so many unanswered questions of the families action and reactions, the performance of LE, but the truth will eventually be revealed....hopefully sooner than later.