Group Plans Memorial Walkway For Caylee

[What'sThatClue]

The softball tournament:

http://www2.tbo.com/news/plant-city...mpaign=Feed:+tbo/plantcity+(TBO+>+Plant+City)

Abramson said Bring Kids Home is "very active with helping families deal with the horrific problems they face when children go missing."

Oh yeah? I haven't yet found evidence they're "very active". Hmmm. Heck, even their twitter acct is no longer active. Posts on their FB pages are few and far between. And their website has very little usable info...

 

[i.b.nora]

The softball tournament:

http://www2.tbo.com/news/plant-city...mpaign=Feed:+tbo/plantcity+(TBO+>+Plant+City)

Oh yeah? I haven't yet found evidence they're "very active". Hmmm. Heck, even their twitter acct is no longer active. Posts on their FB pages are few and far between. And their website has very little usable info...

That comment "Abramson said Bring Kids Home is "very active with helping families deal with the horrific problems they face when children go missing."" struck me, as well. Is Anthony Abramson talking about the same organization called Bring Kids Home, that we are talking about?

I have noticed he is very active in putting on softball tournaments for this and that.

 

[LambChop]

Memorials are placed on the ground of tragic events all the time.

A couple that come to mind is the OK City bombing memorial (beautiful and very touching) and the 9/11 memorial.

I wonder how many remains/bones people walk over in OK city?
I wonder how many reamins/bones people will walk over in NY City?

I don't find it disrespectful at all to have a memorial in places like that.

And I don't find it disrespectful to Caylee to have a memorial for her on Suburban.


JMO

Sorry about that but this was the exact impression I got from your post that you were using OKC and NYC as examples of people walking over bones. I guess I may have misunderstood what you were trying to say. jmo

 

[Kimberlyd125]

No. That's is what I'm saying. I was just trying to point out that remains are walked over at many memorials.

The 2 memorials I referenced were just the first 2 that popped into my head.

When all the remains can not be collected for whatever reason, and a memorial is built there, it is inevitable that the remains will be walked over.

I was just saying I don't feel that it would be disrespectful.

In much the same way OK City and 9/11 memorials.

I was not trying to compare the memorials in any other way.

 

[LambChop]

No. That's is what I'm saying. I was just trying to point out that remains are walked over at many memorials.

The 2 memorials I referenced were just the first 2 that popped into my head.

When all the remains can not be collected for whatever reason, and a memorial is built there, it is inevitable that the remains will be walked over.

I was just saying I don't feel that it would be disrespectful.

In much the same way OK City and 9/11 memorials.

I was not trying to compare the memorials in any other way.

This is true and I agree. And those victums from OKC and NYC were not victumized by their very own mother so it does make this type of memorial for Caylee different. I just can't see victumizing other children by bringing them to a site where the child's remains were recovered and then try to make light of it. Something very evil happened to this child and no amount of dressing it up will change the message of "because my mom did not love me enough she discarded me like trash." jmo

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Something very evil happened at all mentioned memorials.

Tragedies brought on by evil.

Homegrown terrorists, terrorists from afar, and a mother who terrorized and killed her baby.

I understand what you are saying.

But, there are memorials all over this world for victims of evil.

IMO you go if it's in your heart to go and you don't go if it's not.

As far as other children going to Caylee's memorial, that's a decision that will need to be made by their parents.

As I made the decision to bring my daughter to the memorial in OK City after many told me it was not appropriate for a 13 year old. I researched it and made the decision I thought was best for my child.

I'm not sure this proposed memorial for Caylee is the best thing to do either. But I don't think it's disrespectful or horrid.
I have not seen anybody make light of Caylee's murder.

JMO

 

[LambChop]

Something very evil happened at all mentioned memorials.

Tragedies brought on by evil.

Homegrown terrorists, terrorists from afar, and a mother who terrorized and killed her baby.

I understand what you are saying.

But, there are memorials all over this world for victims of evil.

IMO you go if it's in your heart to go and you don't go if it's not.

As far as other children going to Caylee's memorial, that's a decision that will need to be made by their parents.

As I made the decision to bring my daughter to the memorial in OK City after many told me it was not appropriate for a 13 year old. I researched it and made the decision I thought was best for my child.

I'm not sure this proposed memorial for Caylee is the best thing to do either. But I don't think it's disrespectful or horrid.
I have not seen anybody make light of Caylee's murder.

JMO

During WWII my father was a photographer and was assigned to take pictures when they entered the concentration camps in Germany. Those pictures were horrific. My mother showed them to me when I was about 9 years old and she said she wanted me to remember what was done there. It had an impact on me for sure. That is why I am so adamant about exposing children to this type of memorial. Some children are mature enough to understand, most children ages 5-11 are not and they are the ones who will have to pass by this memorial everyday until they are 12.

They really need a team of professionals to look into the impact it might have on these children. Why would we be willing to sacrifice the well being of hundreds of school children who attend this school just to appease a few people who feel a memorial will make them feel better about what happened. Most memorials are to honor the dead and to remember what they lost because of their deaths. There was no honor in the way Caylee died. She was not a victum of a terrorist she was a victum of her own mother and there is a big difference there.

I, myself, would feel much better if I heard four or five well-known psychologists who would be willing to come forward and say that this is a "healthy choice". I do not believe you could find three much less five. jmo

 

[Well Done 99]

Often, by the roadside, I see crosses and small memorials for those who have died in that place. I am also aware of more permanent memorials for victims of crime at the place they died. One that comes to mind is a site where backpackers were terrorized and killed in the bush (sorry, 'forest' to you guys) by a sadistic serial killer here. Again, where they died.
I don't see plans for a memorial to Caylee on Suburban as comparable to any of those. She didn't lose her life in that spot ... she was unceremoniously dumped there in trash bags. If she had been tossed in a dumpster, would there be plans for a memorial at the site where the dumpster once stood?
If they want to memorialize her death (by remembering missing children :crazy, IMO it should be erected in Casey's bedroom or the sandpit.
Having constructed the memorial just near home, the A's will have to move house anyway won't they? Or are they looking forward to becoming part of the 'tour of morbidity' and being forced for the rest of their lives to defend themselves with hammers and garden hoses?

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Something very evil happened at all mentioned memorials.

Tragedies brought on by evil.

Homegrown terrorists, terrorists from afar, and a mother who terrorized and killed her baby.

I understand what you are saying.

But, there are memorials all over this world for victims of evil.

IMO you go if it's in your heart to go and you don't go if it's not.

As far as other children going to Caylee's memorial, that's a decision that will need to be made by their parents.

As I made the decision to bring my daughter to the memorial in OK City after many told me it was not appropriate for a 13 year old. I researched it and made the decision I thought was best for my child.

I'm not sure this proposed memorial for Caylee is the best thing to do either. But I don't think it's disrespectful or horrid.
I have not seen anybody make light of Caylee's murder.

JMO

I respectfully disagree with your point of view - but the sentence I bolded is what I wanted to comment on.

I have seen 'somebody' make light of Caylee's murder. Her team in opening statements. Caylee never was missing. She drowned in the family swimming pool.

So since G and C support the memorial, why don't they remove the pool and put it there.

JMHO.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Often, by the roadside, I see crosses and small memorials for those who have died in that place. I am also aware of more permanent memorials for victims of crime at the place they died. One that comes to mind is a site where backpackers were terrorized and killed in the bush (sorry, 'forest' to you guys) by a sadistic serial killer here. Again, where they died.
I don't see plans for a memorial to Caylee on Suburban as comparable to any of those. She didn't lose her life in that spot ... she was unceremoniously dumped there in trash bags. If she had been tossed in a dumpster, would there be plans for a memorial at the site where the dumpster once stood?
If they want to memorialize her death (by remembering missing children :crazy, IMO it should be erected in Casey's bedroom or the sandpit.
Having constructed the memorial just near home, the A's will have to move house anyway won't they? Or are they looking forward to becoming part of the 'tour of morbidity' and being forced for the rest of their lives to defend themselves with hammers and garden hoses?

Get out of my head! We both posted at the exact same time with the same thought/reaction. Wow.

 

[Well Done 99]

Get out of my head! We both posted at the exact same time with the same thought/reaction. Wow.

LOL I know it was EXACTLY the same moment too ... mine disappeared. ODD!

 

[A_News_Junkie]

LOL I know it was EXACTLY the same moment too ... mine disappeared. ODD!

"The irony is rich indeed!"

From around the world Australia to Kentucky the feelings are the same (even at the same moment!) !!!

BTW -- I love WS!!!!!!!!!

 

[Well Done 99]

"The irony is rich indeed!"

From around the world Australia to Kentucky the feeling are the same (even at the same moment!) !!!

BTW -- I love WS!!!!!!!!!

How true!
Around the world indeed. The other thing I meant to include in mine was the example in the UK. A memorial walkway has been constructed at 25 Cromwell St where Fred (and Rosemary) West's victims died in the house that once stood there (their own young daughter being one of those victims). But AFAIK there was not seen a need to erect one in the fields in northern England where he had dumped a couple of the others

 

[LambChop]

I believe BKH is making light of Caylee's remains by pretending it's like the woods where Winnie the Pooh would go. And I suppose they will have to use black trash bags at the site, too. It's just too insensitive to me. I can never look at a Winnie the Pooh blanket again without thinking about what happened to Caylee. I saw a child the size of Caylee with a Winnie the Pooh today in Lowes and felt a tinge of sadness. I found a roll of duct tape the other day and had to think about touching it. You can't help it and eventually it will go away and I'll get over it because there won't be a constant reminder for me. jmo

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I respectfully disagree with your point of view - but the sentence I bolded is what I wanted to comment on.

I have seen 'somebody' make light of Caylee's murder. Her team in opening statements. Caylee never was missing. She drowned in the family swimming pool.

So since G and C support the memorial, why don't they remove the pool and put it there.

JMHO.

Her team meaning the defense? The defense was not Caylee's team or the Anthony's team. They were Casey's team.

I'm not sure how that has anything to do with the memorial making light of Caylee's death.

As far as I know, JB does not speak for GA and CA. I've never heard them say she drowned.

Why would they remove the pool?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I'm sure photos of a concentration camp was very rough on a 9 year old.

Kids that will pass Caylee's memorial will not see photos of dead or starving bodies.

There is a big difference IMO.

Also, as far as the roadside crosses go, I have seen or heard of memorial crosses or statues placed in places dumped bodies are found.

One of our very own WSers has planted flowers where Shaniya's body was found. She tends to them as a way to show her respect for Shaniya.

IMO There is nothing disrespectful about marking a place or remembering a place where someone was dumped.

It's just a way to show respect.

JMO

 

[LambChop]

I too think there is nothing wrong with showing your respect for a child who has lost their life. I just don't agree that this project will do that when $200,000 plus donated to foundations that actually do go out and perform searches for missing children would benefit from this money so much more. Caylee's not there in that swamp and was not there as a live person. I would think Caylee would want the money used to help other children come home or help find missing adults. This memorial serves no other purpose than to make a few people some money. The City of Orlando, Orange County nor the neighborhood suggested building this memorial. It was someone out in Washington State.

Any way you slice it it comes out to be the same. I don't think it will get off the ground because who will maintain this site....we all know the answer to that....it will be abandoned and the city will get stuck with the bill. Another bill for the taxpayers to pay. Also that land will now fall under a foundation which means....no taxes will be collected. It's all been glitz and glamour up until now but wait until reality sets in for the local taxpayers. They aren't going to like it. jmo

 

[A_News_Junkie]

I respectfully disagree with your point of view - but the sentence I bolded is what I wanted to comment on.

I have seen 'somebody' make light of Caylee's murder. Her team in opening statements. Caylee never was missing. She drowned in the family swimming pool.

So since G and C support the memorial, why don't they remove the pool and put it there.

JMHO.

Her team meaning the defense? The defense was not Caylee's team or the Anthony's team. They were Casey's team.

I'm not sure how that has anything to do with the memorial making light of Caylee's death.

As far as I know, JB does not speak for GA and CA. I've never heard them say she drowned.

Why would they remove the pool?

Her team meaning the defense team - yes.

My reply was in response to what I bolded. No, JB doesn't speak for GA or CA but they sure spoke for him and KC at trial, IMHO.

Because their granddaughter allegedly died there. It appeared to *me* that GA and/or CA supported this idea with all the photographs supplied at trial. I kinda doubt that FKC had those in her cell, but who knows? But maybe if Caylee didn't die in that pool, then that is how they can enjoy it? Perhaps they understand how they can live with that pool in their yard. But *MY* personal opinion is their land is a far more appropriate place for the memorial.

Make you a deal - we will just respectfully disagree.

How about this - can we agree we both love WS and the differing opinions presented here!?

 

[Well Done 99]

Also, as far as the roadside crosses go, I have seen or heard of memorial crosses or statues placed in places dumped bodies are found.

One of our very own WSers has planted flowers where Shaniya's body was found. She tends to them as a way to show her respect for Shaniya.

+respectfully snipped+

I would be the very first to say with sincerity that that is truly commendable and a wonderful tribute.
But, IMO, to pull up in your car (with camera at the ready - which IS what people will do) and allow your kids to run, play and admire the pretty light on a walkway erected over the site where the skeleton of a little girl was found is surely a far cry from remembering or memorialising her. There's just something not quite right about it.
To me, the flowers of condolence and toy tributes were wonderful ... it would even be nice to continue to see people do so ... but they were genuine outpouring and they were enough.

 

[strawberry]

During WWII my father was a photographer and was assigned to take pictures when they entered the concentration camps in Germany. Those pictures were horrific. My mother showed them to me when I was about 9 years old and she said she wanted me to remember what was done there. It had an impact on me for sure.

Very respectfully snipped...God bless your dad Lambchop. I saw a documentary where it was stated that I forget if it was the President or the General ordered the footage be taken because it was so horrific they knew the public would never believe it and/or never believe it was as bad as it was. And there are Holocaust deniers to this day...thank God for your dad. Sorry for the OT