Guardian Angels watching the Anthony Home

[bunnyphoenix1]

Guardian Angels jumping on the hoods of people's cars is not accomplishing that. I think they're there for their own self-serving publicity. Besides if they are "protecting the neighbors", why stand in the Anthony's driveway? Why not stand in the neighbors' driveways???

Exactly. They could make things far worse. Why can't the Anthony's pay for off duty police? The $200 000 should be more than enough for that.

 

[DianeB]

I did not see that they jumped on the hood of the car (didn't watch the video or see photos) and am a little sketchy about that incident, I"ll admit. It seemed to involved someone who had a Taser gun and the Angels's response. Did it lead to an altercation? Did it exacerbate the situation outside the A's house and on their street? I'm not saying that their presence should be tolerated if they escalate the violence or break laws themselves; I'm just saying that they can possibly prevent confrontations and keep the peace without involving LE (unless absolutely necessary).

Read the police report. It's a the bottom of this page under 'taser incident report'. If the couple's story is accurate (and the GA leader refused to submit a detailed report about what he and his crew did), in no way did the guardian angels do anything to "keep the peace".

http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547

 

[MiraclesHappen]

Several people (including me) have said why it seems reasonable for them to stand in between the protestors and the A's house - -because that is putting themselves in between the two most volatile parties. Standing down the street isn't going to help the neighbors if someone starts throwing rocks at the windows or if there is a physical fight between the protestors and a vigil attendee (not that it's happened, just saying it's possible and it should be prevented).

I did not see that they jumped on the hood of the car (didn't watch the video or see photos) and am a little sketchy about that incident, I"ll admit. It seemed to involved someone who had a Taser gun and the Angels's response. Did it lead to an altercation? Did it exacerbate the situation outside the A's house and on their street? I'm not saying that their presence should be tolerated if they escalate the violence or break laws themselves; I'm just saying that they can possibly prevent confrontations and keep the peace without involving LE (unless absolutely necessary). Let the cops work their beats and solve crimes instead of being called to stop confrontations with protestors or protestors throwing things or Lee driving crazy near protestors.

I wager that that little boy would not have been shut in the truck door last week if the Angels had been there as they would have had their body mass in between the protestors involved and CA.

The cops will never ever leave any aspect of law enforcement to the Guardian Angels. They probably reacted more with frustration than relief & glee, when learning of the Guardian Angel presence. I speak from personal experience, just my opinion and observations over time. Guardian Angels could be viewed as yet another group that needs to be monitored and a further draw on the taxed resources of LE.

At the taser incident I cannot say if the Guardian Angels provoked anyone. But it has been repeatedly reported that they chased down the couple who never exited their motor vehicle and they jumped up on the hood. I gotta tell you. Any time I have even 1 person on the hood of my vehicle, especially a large adult male, I consider it to be provoking conduct and I am not happy. It makes operation of the vehicle impossible and creates a very dangerous experience. Happened 20 years ago. Still shudder when I recall it.

 

[softsoul]

As I see it, the Guardian Angels are doing nothing more than attempting to keep the peace. They believe they can perhaps prevent a situation from escalating into something violent. They stand in the Anthony's yard because that is where they will do the most good. Yes - they are protecting the Anthony's. They are also protecting the protestors, the media and the neighbors. But since many of the protestors find it necessary to hurl things at the house, and step onto the Anthony's yard, and knock on garage doors, etc....they are standing in a spot between the two parties. Because the Anthony's have come outside with a hammer and a baseball bat and yelled at the protestors...they are standing between the two parties. Not down the street, not on the street with the protestors, not in the Anthony home. BETWEEN the parties.

I, for one, would rather see them out there than have LE resources tied up being called out time and time again.

There were 5-7 people, in one group, who did that. Saying "many" of the protesters find it necessary to act in that manner is really exaggerating the facts IMO.

 

[softsoul]

Some people just aren't going to be satisfied. First it was outrage that Casey dare even ring the police when she felt her family was under threat at her home, then it went from outrage to anger that there was a request for policing of the property. Understandably people were annoyed that their taxes would be paying for such an undertaking. However now that there is a group that is not paid for by your taxes and are doing this voluntarily people are still outraged.

I really admire the people here who put forth challenging opinions which differentiate between their emotion over Caylee's disappearance, their anger at Casey and the Anthony family while still understanding that the Anthony family does have rights and that there is a valid need for some protection out the front of their residence. Well done to you all, especially the regulars here because as a newbie, I have experienced venom from other posters for voicing this opinion and I know it would be difficult for you to do so too.

With all due respect, your post appears to imply that those of us who support the right to protest, believe anyone who breaks the laws should be arrested and believe the Anthony's are contributing in a major way to the problems, are without the ability to be objective and put our emotions aside. The vast majority of people with opinions which differ from yours have never stated the Anthony's do not have the same rights as everyone else....they just do not have more. They don't have more rights than any other American who is the target of a protest and should not have the right to tell the protesters where to stand on public property. Government officials, medical workers from abortion clinics and many others have had protests at their home and the first amendment rights of the protesters were not altered to please them or their neighbors. The protesters should be peaceful and act within the law.... if they do so leave them alone, otherwise arrest them, along with any Anthony who breaks the law. I for one do not believe there would be a valid reason for protection if they did not continually incite others and put themselves in harm's way.

 

[CarrieBean]

With all due respect, your post appears to imply that those of us who support the right to protest, believe anyone who breaks the laws should be arrested and believe the Anthony's are contributing in a major way to the problems, are without the ability to be objective and put our emotions aside. The vast majority of people with opinions which differ from yours have never stated the Anthony's do not have the same rights as everyone else....they just do not have more. They don't have more rights than any other American who is the target of a protest and should not have the right to tell the protesters where to stand on public property. Government officials, medical workers from abortion clinics and many others have had protests at their home and the first amendment rights of the protesters were not altered to please them or their neighbors. The protesters should be peaceful and act within the law.... if they do so leave them alone, otherwise arrest them, along with any Anthony who breaks the law. I for one do not believe there would be a valid reason for protection if they did not continually incite others and put themselves in harm's way.

I agree with the bolded sentence. I have no issues with protesters. I have issues with violent protesters. I also have issues with the screaming lunatic protesters who curse, swear, and make it impossible for the neighbourhood children to be able to enjoy their own front yards.

I also have issues with Casey, but I have to hand it to her parents being as calm as they have with some of these people. CA and GA have been charged with nothing. I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes with this family and neither does anyone else here. I don't believe they're enjoying this at all. I do think that they have no idea how to deal with their whole world falling apart. I believe they deserve to be safe like anyone else.

I also sent an email to the G. Angels...a letter of support. They are a wonderful group of people, with no intentions other than making our world a safe place.

"WHO WE ARE
The Guardian Angels
are

volunteers who provide public safety and education in our neighborhood streets our schools and cyberspace.

We include successful professionals as well as young people on the rebound.

We are from the inner-city the suburbs and even the countryside.

We are men and women and young people from all colors and backgrounds.

We all work towards a universal goal that everyone has the right and deserves to be safe."
http://www.guardianangels.org/about.html

 

[LinasK]

Several people (including me) have said why it seems reasonable for them to stand in between the protestors and the A's house - -because that is putting themselves in between the two most volatile parties. Standing down the street isn't going to help the neighbors if someone starts throwing rocks at the windows or if there is a physical fight between the protestors and a vigil attendee (not that it's happened, just saying it's possible and it should be prevented).

I did not see that they jumped on the hood of the car (didn't watch the video or see photos) and am a little sketchy about that incident, I"ll admit. It seemed to involved someone who had a Taser gun and the Angels's response. Did it lead to an altercation? Did it exacerbate the situation outside the A's house and on their street? I'm not saying that their presence should be tolerated if they escalate the violence or break laws themselves; I'm just saying that they can possibly prevent confrontations and keep the peace without involving LE (unless absolutely necessary). Let the cops work their beats and solve crimes instead of being called to stop confrontations with protestors or protestors throwing things or Lee driving crazy near protestors.

I wager that that little boy would not have been shut in the truck door last week if the Angels had been there as they would have had their body mass in between the protestors involved and CA.

I think the Guardian Angels are the vigilantes angling for a fight...

 

[curiositycat]

I have just been to the web cam page. It appears that there are no Guardian Angels there tonight..and no protesters. This is a good thing.
It may become so quiet that the A's actually start something. I can't wait to see if my theory that they are addicted to drama is correct. LOL

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

Lol. I hadn't heard that theory, but I like it. It will be interesting to see if it's right, I suspect it is.

Looks like the GAs have moved on. Maybe the As were rude to them? Maybe they are in trouble for last night?

 

[TxRose]

There were 5-7 people, in one group, who did that. Saying "many" of the protesters find it necessary to act in that manner is really exaggerating the facts IMO.

Now I think we are splitting hairs.

The protestors that are calm, quiet and dignified, but choose to display their "displeasure" with the Anthony's have my blessing (not that they need it). I don't have a problem with a peaceful display. I don't think being there serves ANY purpose whatsoever other than to attempt to rile up the Anthony's or get on tv. I think it is a waste of good time and energy, but it is their choice. If they want to show off their 1st amendment rights...go for it. But don't park your cars on the street, and don't block traffic. Have your little protest but don't bother the neighbors who are not a party to this.

BUT here is my point - every night that protestors are there...SOME feel it necessary to scream and shout. They yell profanities. Some throw things like the other night. They park their cars on the street, hang out. and create additional traffic in the neighborhood. I fully support a person's 1st amendment rights...until it infringes on the rights of others. Like the right of the neighbors to live peacfully and securely in their own home. Do you think they feel safe and secure with people standing outside their homes yelling the stuff they do and loitering around? It would infuriate me if I lived next door and my daughter was exposed to that type of language and conduct. That is NOT the kind of example that should be set for supporting 1st amendment rights. You can argue all you want that they have a right to be there...and I will argue right back that the neighbors should have rights too. So why aren't you defending those rights as passionately as you are the rights of the protestors? That is all I am trying to do.

 

[CheckDaFacts]

Two important factors about the GRDA's

1. Not suppose to carry any weapons its against their creed -
Stun Guns included. Their also suppose to be trained in martial arts, which is also a lethal weapon.

2. Do not pursue another vehicle in their own vehicles. They are not PD/LE. Please remember not to man-handle the law abiding citizens in the hour of zeal. No tossing and frisking against property either, frown.

I knew this was coming saw the writing on the wall a while back.
Wonder who made the call, another 501 (c) 3? They GARD's do not belong at the Athony's. This started via council woman's request for Off-Duty PO's, after 23 cents and a shirt jerk, another phone call maybe, sounds sorta political, shrug. We do know, some of the protesters like the Anthony's on speed dial, could not contain themselves properly and were expending the whole community from needed Officer's on patrol. Not just their block either, that's me shrugging it up again. Remaining thoughts. Use caution guys and gals for those hard earnings, soon hopefully to come.
Note: A's, Trust Fund currently closed, tsk, tsk, pesky pay-paypal/wire transfers/cash and other seedy elements. WS/FU aka Websleuths Financial Unit on call, lol.

On that note. Two questions:
How will LE be paid? Via private security company or via City Taxes as a side gig? Either way, they would be able to earn some side pocket cash and I think that's a great irony. GRDA's can now go back to their chapters.

 

[passin_through]

I think it was good they were there tonight. One of the neighbors might have killed a fella, kid you not.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/M....jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

 

[EastSideOfSaddness]

I think it was good they were there tonight. One of the neighbors might have killed a fella, kid you not.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/M....jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

G Angels were there tonight, they have the red berets on in the video.

 

[passin_through]

snagged your link from the other thread, Eastside... thanks for getting it for us

I didn't really have much of an opinion on the Gaurdian Angels being there. I didn't like what I read of yesterdays events but figured everybody else is there, why not

Seeing the video you posted made me grateful to GA's, I think there would have been blood tonight. The way that 'neighbor' came out spittin', made me think he was a boxer type. That one is the scariest I've seen thus far.

 

[EastSideOfSaddness]

snagged your link from the other thread, Eastside... thanks for getting it for us

I didn't really have much of an opinion on the Gaurdian Angels being there. I didn't like what I read of yesterdays events but figured everybody else is there, why not

Seeing the video you posted made me grateful to GA's, I think there would have been blood tonight. The way that 'neighbor' came out spittin', made me think he was a boxer type. That one is the scariest I've seen thus far.

Ya, and George just HADDDDdd to come out to deliver water. :bang:

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

I agree that it is pitiful how some are assuming they know something about the lives of these protesters...and managing to insult every unemployed person in the process. We haven't been introduced to all the protesters so it is nothing but narrow-mindedness to judge them all by the ones acting like idiots.

Not nearly as bad as those who assume to know what pain George & Cindy are feeling, what they're doing to find Caylee, or the entire host of unknowns - and then what's worse is that they go on to applaud more pain, disruption of their neighborhood and encourage that these Grandparents are under constant pressure.

 

[passin_through]

Ya, and George just HADDDDdd to come out to deliver water. :bang:

That's what I just don't get! He has the Gaurdian Angels out there, his neighbors out there trying to *patrol* and keep it quiet. They live in the neighborhood and if they were thirsty I'm sure they would have ran home and grabbed some water!

What does he do, he makes it MORE stressful on the very people trying to help him and his family! He drags out a bag of bottled water and traipses down the road. For cripes sakes, man, where's you're good sense?! What happens then, the protesters start heckling and the neighbors start getting themselves in a pile of doo-doo! Thoughtful... *rolls eyes*

There's no way I will slightly entertain the idea that he isn't doing this purposefully!

 

[ZooMomology]

That video makes me even more hateful of that family. Georgie smiling and making jokes with the neighbors who he has incited to fight his fight for him. What a man.

I watched it twice to make sure of what I was seeing.

 

[ZooMomology]

I bet you NeJajames walks soon because they don't listen.

 

[Can't Sleep]

The standard Friday night gang was present at the Anthonys' house along with children. It appears that neighbors of the Anthonys were trying to help George by standing watch but couldn't resist trading profanities and gestures with the "protesters" after George disappeared through a side gate.

Neighbors hurled insults at the gathered protesters and just as it appeared a physical altercation was inevitable, a serious and very buff young man stepped in wearing the highly recognizable red beret of the Guardian Angels. It appeared that he was practiced at such interventions and was able to physically separate and emotionally cool the tension.

I think the Guardian Angels are doing a very good job. Where can I donate?

Video here: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/M....jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US