Guilty of first degree murder/verdict watch #2

[NCEast]

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Don't forget to change your clocks tonight.....forward one hour!!

 

[SteelerGirl43]

I've also read criticism that no inventory of items in JY's SUV was made. And that is false. Here is the link to the search warrant that lists the items seized on 11/04/06.


Page four is the inventory list.

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2007/01/05/1127622/1307321884-jy_suv.pdf

Actually it was the contents of his suitcase........ Not the SUV people were talking about on here unless you are talking about some where else....

CCBI confiscated his vehicle and all contents the following afternoon, November 3, 2006. The suitcases were handed over to the WCSO (Wake county sheriff’s office). Some time later, investigators went through the contents of the suitcases. There never was an inventory log recorded or photos taken of the contents.

 

[citygirl]

Thanks Citygirl! I knew about the undershirt/tshirt and that it was determined to be fine and thus CY kept it on. But I'm reading in various places that people are claiming the PJ's themselves were washed right after the murder and then put on CY again. And it's being put out there as if it's a fact. I don't have any basis for believing that myself, but if it did happen, then CY's bloody pj's went into the garbage bags along with the weapon, shoes, JY's clothes, diaper, etc, and newer pj's were put on her. The washing machine was not going, and CY was not removed from the home and brought back later.

Those PJs weren't washed, they were collected and bagged and tested by the SBI and had blood on them in several places.

And we know CY's diaper was removed from her and discarded along with everything else. What a nice goth killer. Not only cleans up a toddler but also takes out all the garbage from the house and the liner inside the garbage in the garage too. So thoughtful!

It's not good when facts have to be made up or twisted in order to present a better argument for the defendant. And yet, there appear to be some head-scratching whoppers out there.

Exactly. Her original PJs went in that trash bag along with her pull up and the wet one's or towels. And I meant to say MF's testimony not MY's. You prolly knew that.

 

[Just the Fax]

Actually it was the contents of his suitcase........ Not the SUV people were talking about on here unless you are talking about some where else....

CCBI confiscated his vehicle and all contents the following afternoon, November 3, 2006. The suitcases were handed over to the WCSO (Wake county sheriff’s office). Some time later, investigators went through the contents of the suitcases. There never was an inventory log recorded or photos taken of the contents.
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JLY's suitcase and all it's contents were evidence at trial.

 

[SteelerGirl43]

I've read in several places a theory/rumor that CY's pajamas were washed and put back on her. Where is this theory coming from? Is that something the defense argued in their closing?

From testimony I heard, blood was found in numerous places on CY's pajama bottoms, on both legs, in the butt area, etc. Because of the flower pattern of the pajama bottoms, blood stains wouldn't necessarily stand out but they were seen in the lab.

Curious why this washing of pajamas is being presented as if it were a fact out there?

Why are the clean pajamas and absence of a diaper important? First, it appears with certainty that someone laundered the pajamas because the blood that was present on the seat of the pajama pants was not visible to the naked eye but the crime lab later detected blood through chemical testing.

 

[SteelerGirl43]

JLY's suitcase and all it's contents were evidence at trial.

Just because it was at the trial doesn't mean everything was in the suitcase.... There was NO inventory list..... One should have been made.... <modsnip>...

 

[citygirl]

I, too, have read and heard the various reports about the pajamas having been washed. One of the talking heads on tv last week mentioned it. I found myself confused for a moment, and then reconciled MF's testimony and knew it just wasn't right. I well remember their trip to Target immediately upon leaving the residence on Birchleaf specifically to buy new clothing for CY and the clothing she was found in was handed over to LE right then and there.
All of these rumors are beginning to get to me. I don't know if people who didn't really follow the trial are coming in on the tail-end of things and are confused.....or if various others are deliberately throwing stuff out there. Or if some people are just so dumb they can't follow and stick to the facts of the case without twisting things up.

The powers that be persist on putting this murder on her sister.
Still. To this very day.
It is laughable.
JY GAVE his daughter to her sister.
He turned her over.
He knows it isn't true.
He knows there is no merit to their claims.
Yet they persist.
MF didn't kill her sister.

 

[Just the Fax]

Just because it was at the trial doesn't mean everything was in the suitcase.... There was NO inventory list..... One should have been made.... Please don't get snarky with me...

Are you suggesting LE intentionally removed items, personally committing a felony:waitasec:

 

[octobermoon]

Why are the clean pajamas and absence of a diaper important? First, it appears with certainty that someone laundered the pajamas because the blood that was present on the seat of the pajama pants was not visible to the naked eye but the crime lab later detected blood through chemical testing.

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Just curious, who's runs that blog? I am horrible at finding that. I check the about page, but I might have missed it. TIA

 

[citygirl]

:what:

Ouch. This hurt my heart. It appears he wasn't a 'kiddin that he would resent her forever for loving, protecting, and bringing into the world the life that HE started in CY. Jack@ss. He seems to have lacked the capacity to put his own daughter's needs above his own.

How can his own mother read this and not be repulsed by it?

I also cannot fathom making a child that age sit through a long tailgate and game, especially with bad weather conditions. Double jack@ss.

Who is to say? Maybe it does hurt his mother's heart when she reads this? Not sure that she is repulsed? She may be sitting back and thinking if MY didn't trap him in this marriage none of this would have happened? All the DRAMA! That seems to be how they classified MY and her family. DRAMA was the operative word. Mother and sister on the stand. Drama.

 

[SteelerGirl43]

Well SteelerGirl43, there was zero evidence that happened in this case...that is fact.

Wheres the inventory list of his suitcases???

 

[SteelerGirl43]

Just curious, who's runs that blog? I am horrible and finding out that. I check the about page, but I might have missed it. TIA

Don't know, but everything she says makes sense....

 

[Amster]

LOL....just because an inventory list wasn't presented as evidence in the trial doesn't mean there isn't one! Why didn't the defense make a big deal about it? Did they ask the state to produce the list? If not, why not? Jason knows what was in his suitcase.....did he throw a hissy and claim the state removed items? If not, why not?

 

[SteelerGirl43]

LOL....just because an inventory list wasn't presented as evidence in the trial doesn't mean there isn't one! Why didn't the defense make a big deal about it? Did they ask the state to produce the list? If not, why not? Jason knows what was in his suitcase.....did he throw a hissy and claim the state removed items? If not, why not?

Again they asked for one and they said there was not one... Now whether they had one & just didnt have it there that day I don't know.. But there should have been one.. FACT! LOL!

 

[octobermoon]

Don't know, but everything she says makes sense....

I don't think we are allowed to post non MSM (mainstream media) here. You may want to check with a mod. Lord knows I got in enough trouble talking about twitter/tweets on another forum. :what:

I am not a mod, just don't like to see people get time outs.

 

[Boodles]

:what:

Who is to say? Maybe it does hurt his mother's heart when she reads this? Not sure that she is repulsed? She may be sitting back and thinking if MY didn't trap him in this marriage none of this would have happened? All the DRAMA! That seems to be how they classified MY and her family. DRAMA was the operative word. Mother and sister on the stand. Drama.

I think her heart hurts when she thinks about her poor baby boy Jason, the victim of such unfairness.

There's no doubt in my mind that while the judge was reading the verdict, sentencing and responding to the motion by the defense, both JY and PY were sitting there blaming Michelle in their minds.

 

[SteelerGirl43]

I don't think we are allowed to post non MSM (mainstream media) here. You may want to check with a mod. Lord knows I got in enough trouble talking about twitter/tweets on another forum. :what:

I am not a mod, just don't like to see people get time outs.

IDK either... I know earlier I posted some info without the link & someone commented about it... So I posted the link....

 

[Just the Fax]

LOL....just because an inventory list wasn't presented as evidence in the trial doesn't mean there isn't one! Why didn't the defense make a big deal about it? Did they ask the state to produce the list? If not, why not? Jason knows what was in his suitcase.....did he throw a hissy and claim the state removed items? If not, why not?

Amster, there was a written inventory in one of the SW's.

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/asset_gallery/3401559/

 

[octobermoon]

IDK either... I know earlier I posted some info without the link & someone commented about it... So I posted the link....

That's fine. I just like it here and hate to see a PM in my box with warning. It skeers me. :truce:

 

[SteelerGirl43]

Amster, there was a written inventory in one of the SW's.

Link please..
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