GUILTY - Tammy Moorer trial for Kidnapping Heather Elvis, 8 Oct 2018 #4

[tmar]

Tammy Moorer, from South Carolina, sent sexual texts to the 18-year-old saying she was 'fantasizing' about him.

One of the messages read out at Horry County Court read: 'I want you Caleb. You don't even know. I want to f*** the hell out of you.'
Woman accused of kidnapping husband’s lover nearly derails trial with sex texts | Daily Mail Online

This woman, now sits at this trial.
There is no respect for her, after hearing, so many disgusting statements.
Poor HE.
HE did meet up with evil, and I hope, her family receives Justice.

 

[stillwatersc]

Despite the text, I feel Tammy was there and the likely killer based on all that we know about her and her nature. She knew things didn't work out well for the evil queen in Snow White sending the Huntsman alone.

 

[TTF14]

It w
. It was from Sydney to Tammy after he turned on his phone, (after
4:00 AM, I thought) & just before he got home. Let’s eat some potstickers and drink some orange juice.

I wonder if pot stickers and OJ is some kind of code, movie line, inside joke about Heather.....?

 

[Simply Caustic]

“Y’all gonna go to the store we don’t need the ad it’s online now” 647 UTC
“Got he ad” 810 UTC

This is the actual written text of the SMS in question. It was evidently released as evidence at some point in a spreadsheet, likely during SM trial.

 

[Dylgem22]

Maybe they really did have those items in their fridge and it was just her way of establishing her "alibi" like she was home. I think since we don't give the Mrs. enough credit (did I really just say that?!? ) due to how bike we think she is, she may have really thought this thru .. I mean it took thought to use a payphone to lure Heather out ... they switched off phones ... so she at least tried to make herself look innocent even though she's guilty as sin! MOO

 

[Gardenista]

I think seeing it would be advantageous - was it “got HE add” or “got he ad” “got he AD” etc

not to be finicky, but rather to clarify for the jurors (and us!) the likelihood of a typo for , or otherwise.

I can’t fathom why he’d text something so incriminating, given the premeditation of removing the sync and the phones turned off, and I genuinely wonder what else he could have been typing - some excuse for why he was out, should his records be pulled?

This one is sticking in my craw, was it a stupid error that doesn’t line up with their other actions or Something else? Maybe “got the ad” to make it seem like he was walking coupons upstairs to Tammy...

I'd like to see it too. I'd also like to know if it was one of the deleted messages, because why delete your alibi?

 

[Surfside]

Mic drop!

question?


Maybe a little dense here - but not understanding this statement most of you are posting. What does that mean? Someone dropped the mic? Probably not....

A mic drop is the gesture of intentionally dropping one's microphone at the end of a performance or speech to signal triumph. Figuratively, it is an expression of triumph for a successful event and indicates a boastful attitude toward one's own performance. Wikipedia

A mic drop also typically signifies a statement so definitive that it cannot possibly be followed. This is not meant to be political. I just wanted to share with you (arguably) the most well-recognized mic drop in recent history. Prior to this, former President Obama had many comedians parody him doing a mic drop in their skits. Eventually, Obama would give his final White House Correspondents' Dinner speech and it ended with a mic drop. Here's a video:

 

[Lovejac]

Good morning friends! Just checking in. I signed up a couple of weeks ago to volunteer for a school thing from 9 to 12 Phone reception is spotty there but hopefully I'll be able to check in

 

[Surfside]

“Y’all gonna go to the store we don’t need the ad it’s online now” 647 UTC (1:47 EST)
“Got he ad” 810 UTC (3:10 EST)

This is the actual written text of the SMS in question. It was evidently released as evidence at some point in a spreadsheet, likely during SM trial.

THANK YOU Simply Caustic (where did your avatar go?)! So, the "add" was just a misunderstanding from a source taking notes. I would like to add one point of my own speculation about this text, because I really do think the phone auto-corrected "the" to "he." I know I'm projecting what happens with my own phone, but when I first started following this case, it was really hard for me to get used to the initials being used for everyone involved. I wasn't a member of Websleuths, so it was new to me. My discomfort was only compounded by one of Heather's family members on here (maybe her aunt?) asking that we use her actual name, because she was a real person, and it was difficult to read her being reduced to her initials. My point being - would the Moorers, in the heat of the crime, be using the initials "he" yet? Maybe. Dangit. I'm not going down this rabbit hole. Y'all can't make me.

By the way, I put the local time for that night in red and bold next to the Universal Time before everyone gets confused again.

 

[Lovejac]

Despite the text, I feel Tammy was there and the likely killer based on all that we know about her and her nature. She knew things didn't work out well for the evil queen in Snow White sending the Huntsman alone.

Yes, I agree! With Tammy's controlling and overbearing personality, I cannot even entertain the thought that she wasn't there. Part of my theory is that she commanded and watched SM kill Heather. The ultimate way for her to get across the point that SM 'chose' TM over Heather AND that Heather knew that TM could make SM kill for her IMO

 

[Hatfield]

A mic drop also typically signifies a statement so definitive that it cannot possibly be followed. This is not meant to be political. I just wanted to share with you (arguably) the most well-recognized mic drop in recent history. Prior to this, former President Obama had many comedians parody him doing a mic drop in their skits. Eventually, Obama would give his final White House Correspondents' Dinner speech and it end with a mic drop.

Thanks for the explanation and thanks to Niner for asking that question as I was a little confused about the "mic drop" too and had never known about that phrase.

It makes sense and it was helpful to see the example.

If TM ends up testifying, then when she is done, instead of a mic drop, we need one of these "stage hooks"

 

[Surfside]

Thanks for the explanation and thanks to Niner for asking that question as I was a little confused about the "mic drop" too and had never known about that phrase.

It makes sense and it was helpful to see the example.

If TM ends up testifying, then when she is done, instead of a mic drop, we need one of these "stage hooks"

YES! Th-th-th-th-that's all folks! Somebody sound the gong! You can probably get lost on youtube looking up mic drops in rap battles, btw.

 

[stillwatersc]

I keep having to look up potstickers because I forget what they are.

 

[geevee]

For those kindly sharing tweets:

Nick Papantonis WPDE‏Verified account @NickPapantonis 10h10 hours ago
.@SydneyWPDE will be taking over the coverage of Tammy Moorer's trial starting Wednesday. I will spend a few days perfecting my time travel prototype and will return to work a few years ago. Have a good week, everyone!

 

[Surfside]

For those kindly sharing tweets:

Nick Papantonis WPDE‏Verified account @NickPapantonis 10h10 hours ago
.@SydneyWPDE will be taking over the coverage of Tammy Moorer's trial starting Wednesday. I will spend a few days perfecting my time travel prototype and will return to work a few years ago. Have a good week, everyone!

Funny guy. Maybe he can show up that fateful night.

 

[jenseib]

I noticed some of the articles about today’s trial says “ready to meet the missus” instead of MRS.
Not being pedantic - I make note of it because I believe none of the reporters had an actual view of the texts - so, do we know if it was “got he ADD” and not “got HE Ad” meaning she’d try to spin it as an advertisement for some store? For her coupon clipping?

(I did miss cross examination of that witness, so perhaps they covered this)

Seems too coincidental, given her plethora of spelling and typographical errors, to not be “got HE add” meaning or Add. Meaning adresss

I could be totally off but I swear I heard him read "got HE'd".

Was the “got HE add” text from Sidney to Tammy, or Tammy to Sidney? I was cooking during it and I mistakenly thought it was to her sister

Again, I may be off, but I swore this was Tammy texting a friend and that Sydney wasn't using his phone yet.

 

[Hatfield]

“Y’all gonna go to the store we don’t need the ad it’s online now” 647 UTC (1:47 EST)
“Got he ad” 810 UTC (3:10 EST)

This is the actual written text of the SMS in question. It was evidently released as evidence at some point in a spreadsheet, likely during SM trial.

JMO
Ive been thinking this through and I think these texts were about an "advertisement coupon" to use at the store to buy the pregnancy test. Saying "Got the Ad". It also could have been part of their alibi as to why SM may have been out at that hour. Didnt she at some point say the pregnancy test was for TM.

Anyway the more interesting thing to me is notice it says "Ya'll" which is short for "You all" and so I take that as TM talking to SM and she knows SM is with HE. "Ya'll " is commonly used in the south to refer to more than 1 person.

But then notice at the end it says "WE don’t need the ad..."
implying she may have been out too with them in another vehicle somewhere. I have always thought she may have had her own vehicle and showed up to surprise HE while she was meeting with SM. That way, SM could play off that he had no idea TM was going to bust them being together when she shows up.

They would know HE would never agree to meet with both of them late at night like that, but SM could lure her out himself and then TM drives up and surprises them at a location and goes into a rage on HE.
Just speculating.

Anyway I think this convo is talking about an advertisement coupon. Maybe for the pregnancy test. Wonder if we could still find an online coupon around that time for a pregnancy test at that store. I will try to look for the Ad to see if I can find one at that store.

 

[jillycat]

If TM/SM went to the trouble to turn off phones and hide their activities and locations for part of the timeline, I cannot imagine that there was any text announcing or referencing that Heather had been killed.

 

[TTF14]

JMO
Ive been thinking this through and I think these texts were about an "advertisement coupon" to use at the store to buy the pregnancy test. Saying "Got the Ad". It also could have been part of their alibi as to why SM may have been out at that hour. Didnt she at some point say the pregnancy test was for TM.

Anyway the more interesting thing to me is notice it says "Ya'll" which is short for "You all" and so I take that as TM talking to SM and she knows SM is with HE. "Ya'll " is commonly used in the south to refer to more than 1 person.

But then notice at the end it says "WE don’t need the ad..."
implying she may have been out too with them in another vehicle somewhere. I have always thought she may have had her own vehicle and showed up to surprise HE while she was meeting with SM. That way, SM could play off that he had no idea TM was going to bust them being together when she shows up.

They would know HE would never agree to meet with both of them late at night like that, but SM could lure her out himself and then TM drives up and surprises them at a location and goes into a rage on HE.
Just speculating.

Anyway I think this convo is talking about an advertisement coupon. Maybe for the pregnancy test. Wonder if we could still find an online coupon around that time for a pregnancy test at that store. I will try to look for the Ad to see if I can find one at that store.

I doubt there was a coupon for a store-brand 88 cent pregnancy test.

I say store brand because I am assuming that's what brand it was...not only because it was so cheap, but 88 cents is a typical Walmart/Equate brand product price.

 

[TTF14]

If TM/SM went to the trouble to turn off phones and hide their activities and locations for part of the timeline, I cannot imagine that there was any text announcing or referencing that Heather had been killed.

Agree. I think it's more likely they were clumsily trying to establish a weird clipping coupons alibi.