GUILTY - Tammy Moorer trial for Kidnapping Heather Elvis, 8 Oct 2018 #4

[Sun]

Oh no. McCollum just pulled a "would you be surprised to know?" It's contagious!

I have noticed quite a few gestures and phrases/wording from the younger attorney, that I see in this more seasoned attorney. Mimicking, if you will.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Marissa Tansino WMBF‏ @MarissaTansino 1m1 minute ago
Caulder says he spent an hour to an hour and a half searching the truck but found no blood matching Heather Elvis in the car. He says they didn't look for hairs or fibers in the truck. He says at this point he was looking at just a missing persons case, not violent crime.

 

[jash]

They didn't even check the bed of the truck for blood. Nor did they look inside the toolbox of the truck. *facepalm*

ETA: Witness said he was told a key would be brought (by Moorers I assume) to gain access to the toolbox and to not force the lock. No key was ever given to him.

 

[bestill]

Didn't look in the tool box? This guy was slack, imo

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Julie Calhoun‏ @JulieCalhounTV 2m2 minutes ago
Caulder testifies he did not look for fiber or hair of Heather Elvis. He just looked for blood. He testified at that time he was only told there was a missing person. He's not looking for a violent crime at that point @WBTWNews13

Julie Calhoun‏ @JulieCalhounTV 56s57 seconds ago
Caulder says there was no chemical smell in the truck.

 

[TTF14]

We know from Tammy's own texts about marijuana, they hide things in the tool box.

 

[Carolina Girl]

He may as well stayed home that day.

 

[Sun]

Is there a point to these defense questions?

 

[lstiff]

I'm amazed at how many trials we watch where LE misses getting the forensics. I'm very pro LE so this isn't a jab, just facts that we hear about it more often than not. I know they didn't know there was a crime at first but isn't it standard to treat everything as a crime scene? If not, shouldn't we all know better by now? *eye roll* IMO

 

[bestill]

We know from Tammy's own texts about marijuana, they hide things in the tool box.

And it must be a really tight fit because the drug dogs didn't pick up on it as she bragged in the text.

 

[jash]

He may as well stayed home that day.

I think he said he was called in on a weekend, and that the investigator was on vacation, so perhaps he felt the same.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 3m3 minutes ago
#TammyMoorer - Caulder didn't look for fingerprints or swab for DNA. He'd been told the truck belonged to a person that had a relationship w/Heather. The problem is the Moorers bought that truck after Sidney/Heather broke up & could have been very helpful.

 

[Sun]

Crime happened months earlier than this truck search, right?

 

[jillycat]

I don't understand the lack of scrutiny in searching the truck. You can't go backward and look for more evidence after a missing person is suspected to be a crime victim. The same with Heather's car.

 

[jash]

Crime happened months earlier than this truck search, right?

No, according to defense the examination took place on Dec. 20th. Witness wasn't sure of the date but said it was the weekend.

 

[bestill]

I'm amazed at how many trials we watch where LE misses getting the forensics. I'm very pro LE so this isn't a jab, just facts that we hear about it more often than not. I know they didn't know there was a crime at first but isn't it standard to treat everything as a crime scene? If not, shouldn't we all know better by now? *eye roll* IMO

BBM I'm glad you mentioned that. If you have a missing person and you have a vehicle of interest why would you not assume that something happened in the truck vs looking for evidence that it did before you do a thorough search? Is this normal?

 

[hbone]

I agree and I think they both look like they have aged over the courses of the trials but she especially this trial has aged. IIRC, during SM trial they both dressed nice and she had her hair/makeup done each day. She looks stressed IMO now.


I have always and still do believe this.


I agree with this. They planned everything out so far in advance (the truck, the phones etc) so I doubt they would just text that Heather was gone or they had her address.

IMO

Agree it seems careless but look at the timeline.

 

[TTF14]

Am I correct that the orange thingy was not on the antennae on December 20th, but it was in a later photo? I'm confused.

 

[hbone]

Casey Brown just handed Tammy a laptop and it looked like she inserted a CD/DVD.

Wonder if Tammy Is recording the trial herself on her computer? That would be interesting.
Defendants having computers dueing trials is a relatively new thing. Not sure it should be allowed.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Sydney Glenn‏ @SydneyWPDE 2m2 minutes ago
HCPD senior investigator talking about searching Moorer's truck. Officer says no blood found. Still had new car smell. No smell of cleaning chemicals. There was a chrome tool box in bed of truck--never searched b/c officer says looking for evidence of missing person.

Sydney Glenn‏ @SydneyWPDE 54s54 seconds ago
Photographs of the truck being shown to the jury. #TammyMoorerTrial