GUILTY - Wayne Millard Murder Trial - Dellen Millard Charged With Murder - #4

[Jasper52]

Now looking at the blood stains in these photos, Pillay is suggesting Wayne Millard's body must have moved somewhat. "We just don't know what was there at the time the shooting took place, and we don't know how and to what degree the body was moved."
by Adam Carter 3:06 PM

Pillay says we don't know the length of Millard's arms, and we don't know if he could have held the gun comfortably. He also raises the question of an "intermediary surface" again -- that something, like a blanket, could have blocked gunshot residue.
by Adam Carter 3:09 PM

Pillay now moving to talking about evidence we've heard at court about Wayne Millard making plans for the future. "Common sense tells us that this evidence does not come close to eliminating suicide as a reasonable inference," he says.
by Adam Carter 3:10 PM

 

[deugirtni]

Unfortunately, the defense does not have to prove innocence, just holes in the prosecution's case that shows reasonable doubt .

How is RP allowed to show reasonable doubt by using evidence that wasn't submitted during trial.. or are the phone logs years later in the trial docs (which we haven't been enlightened about)?

 

[deugirtni]

You can actually request the information from the freedom of information act.

You can also purchase transcripts, but there is a cost, a hefty one if I am not mistaken. jmo.

 

[Sillybilly]

Pillay says there is no motive that has been established in this case. "Not a single witness came before this court and suggested there was any discord between Mr. Millard and his father," he says. "There is nothing in the record before you that supports this one way or another."
by Adam Carter 2:53 PM

The defence was quite capable of bringing forward witnesses to refute any discord ... if in fact such individuals exist.

 

[Kamille]

Pillay says the phone that was allegedly "set up as an alibi phone" was active after the incident, which doesn't make any sense, if that's the purpose Millard had been using it for.
by Adam Carter 2:30 PM

Was it ever used before the incident?

 

[Inspector_North]

How is RP allowed to show reasonable doubt by using evidence that wasn't submitted during trial.. or are the phone logs years later in the trial docs (which we haven't been enlightened about)?

Good point! The Judge is allowing it.

 

[SleuthK]

Cameron says Millard's second phone was activated on Nov. 1, 2012. That's the day Wayne Millard got the MRO certificate for his business -- and Cameron says that's a business "Dellen Millard didn't want" and that timing was "no coincidence." She says Millard's inheritance money was being "funnelled out" for that business.
by Adam Carter 10:58 AM

Pillay now noting that there were several times where Millard's two phones used in this case communicated with each other through the years.
by Adam Carter 2:28 PM

BBM

How is this possible? Is the information wrong?

 

[MistyWaters]

RP is throwing out a lot of alternate theories but apparently didn't have a stitch of evidence to back any of them up.

I think Pillay’s purpose for throwing spaghetti at the wall is just to create reasonable doubt in the Crown’s interpretation of the circumstantial evidence.

 

[deugirtni]

Not true...I certainly wouldn't.

Especially if there was 'blood all over the place' as MB had indicated apparently during the 911 call? All over his face... (why was the 911 call not made available like it is in other cases?)

 

[Jealoushe]

Whats up with this judge....she does seem rather unprofessional.

 

[Inspector_North]

Pillay says the phone that was allegedly "set up as an alibi phone" was active after the incident, which doesn't make any sense, if that's the purpose Millard had been using it for.
by Adam Carter 2:30 PM

Was it ever used before the incident?

And why would he get rid of it? He was not charged for a couple of years. Heck, they kept LB's stuff also, and only moved the truck when DM detected "Stormy Weather".

 

[Sillybilly]

But MS and MM each had their own phones too.

But if DM's credit card info was on his phone 'wallet', they might have used it because it was his card that was paying for the pizza.

 

[MistyWaters]

BBM

How is this possible? Is the information wrong?

Possibly the records were in the Agreed Statement of Facts pertaining to cellphone records?

 

[Jasper52]

Pillay is now talking about the several witnesses who have said that Wayne Millard had a debilitating back problem.
by Adam Carter 3:14 PM

Pillay is now suggesting that Janet Campbell and Wayne Millard were not actually close. "Wayne Millard basically spent most of his time, I would submit, from the evidence before you, alone," Pillay says. "They never travelled, the never went out to dinner."
by Adam Carter 3:15 PM

He also says the photos from the scene "speak volumes" -- he's showing the pictures next to Wayne Millard's bed. There are no photos of Janet Campbell there.
by Adam Carter 3:17 PM

"Could it be [Wayne] was telling her things he thought would make her happy?" Pillay says.
by Adam Carter 3:17 PM

 

[deugirtni]

The defence was quite capable of bringing forward witnesses to refute any discord ... if in fact such individuals exist.

Weren't there texts between DM and MB suggesting that WM had become dysfunctional mentally due to alcoholism, because of his spending on the MRO biz?

 

[MistyWaters]

But if DM's credit card info was on his phone 'wallet', they might have used it because it was his card that was paying for the pizza.

Was there such a thing as Apple wallets back in 2012? I thought it came out only a couple IOS releases ago, could be wrong though.

 

[Kamille]

Yes, knowing DM, (and the people that he was associating with), would he have had a 'wallet' type of scenario on his phone which makes it simple for anyone with access to his phone able to use? The man doesn't think things through, however he's not a total moron. jmo.

Were "wallet" apps and paying by credit card on your phone even available in 2012?

 

[JoS13]

Pillay says "remarkably," police at the scene didn't ask Millard any followup questions, even when he asked "is it a revolver" when police told him a gun was found in his father's room. Pillay says Millard asked this because he didn't know what gun was used, and this was "powerful evidence."

Really?! You've just found your dad dead and are in shock, and now you're being told that a gun was found next to him and your first reaction is to wonder what type of gun it was?!?

 

[Jasper52]

Pillay now calling back to Janet Campbell's police statement where she referred to Wayne Millard as a "recluse."
by Adam Carter 3:19 PM

Pillay is now moving to other witnesses at trial -- he says they were all just business associates, not friends, and so they wouldn't really have insight to his mental state. He says the Crown's case sits on the thought that Millard would have told business associates that he was about to kill himself. "The signs of it are sometimes difficult to see or understand."
by Adam Carter 3:22 PM

"The Crown theory ... really rests on what I would submit is a fundamental misunderstanding of what suicide is," Pillay says. He says there might not have been a plan at all, or if there was a plan, Millard would likely have not told people in his life he was going to kill himself.
by Adam Carter 3:24 PM

Pillay says Wayne Millard was an alcoholic, and "was drinking at this point in his life."

"According to the evidence before you, Wayne Millard was a recluse with no friends and no social support," Pillay says.
by Adam Carter 3:26 PM

 

[Kamille]

Didn't DM testify or text that he had taken MM and MS back home the following day after going out to eat? Why can he drive one minute, but not the next? And why does MM not mention this detail on the stand?

He went to the hangar all day the next day too. And came home. Did his "driver" facilitate this too?